Agree/disagree:Obama reminds us he has no policy toward Ukraine or Russia other than to blame Putin.

[SoCalDem]

84. It really does not matter

Here's why..

No matter what we say or do, Russia (Putin) will do whatever he wants unless we are willing to fight him militarily.. we are not now or probably ever interested in all out war with Russia... Europe (specifically the EU) has to take the lead. Up until now, they have been mostly concerned with the finances of every kerfuffle that pops up, and we seem to be the ones who always have to figure out how to "punish" this one and that for everything that goes wrong.

It's way past time for us all to grow up and admit some unfortunate facts:

1. we will never get remains/bodies back from the shot down plane, so we need to stop issuing stern announcements. the scene is hopelessly contaminated, and we all know what happened anyway..the plane was shot down...no one will ever be punished or brought to bear for it because they have control of the site

2. we need to have our leaders present a unified position that says that this was a bad thing that happened, but in a war ALL KINDS OF BAD THINGS HAPPEN, and often, there is never a satisfactory resolution

3. blustering and warning does not work anymore because the "other side" will do whatever they can get away with

4. we are no longer "free to move about the cabin" or to travel as we once were.

5. there is a constant conflict between "the westerners" and radical Islam (all over the world).. and of course we also have Putin who is determined to re-establish a soviet style of governance as he tries to regain some of the former states back under his influence.

6. unless we (and the other western nations) are ready to pay for constant resistance (war), and support of those states, he will prevail.