Some Defend-President-Obama-no-matter-what-folks here will do anything to divert,

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122. No, what's happening is you don't understand what you are reading

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I gave my analysis, which is from a Marxist point of view. You can disagree with it or not, but to pretend there is anything illogical about it is absurd. I accept that most people here come from different backgrounds and buy into the political rhetoric of liberalism that underlies capitalism. You have been taught to do just that by an primary and secondary educational system designed to instill American mythology.

What I am saying is be ideologically consistent. If you buy into the American ideology, that why are you railing about capitulating to corporatists? What do people even mean by that? What exactly is it about this current administration that makes it so much more beholden to the economic elite than others that preceded it? Or is what you are expressing angst about the fact that the economy has eroded to the point that even people here, most of who are prosperous in comparison to the average income of Americans and extremely so compared to global averages, are starting to feel pinched? Are what you are upset about is the fact the upper middle class is started to be treated like ordinary Americans have from the inception of the country?

There are certain facts no amount of worship of reverence for American ideology can dispel. The founding fathers were wealthy men, the wealthiest of the land. They built a political system designed to serve their interests that explicitly excluded everyone but them. Only free male property holders could participate, and of course most of Americans were prohibited by law from owning property--that included slaves, Indians, and women, whereas others simply faced economic impediments.

Millions of Americans were prohibited from even voting until 1965, whereas discrimination under the law prevailed in full force against women and people of color for decades after that. Even now women are not equal under the law, according to Antonin Scalia, while LGBT people are deprived a whole host of rights.

So my question to you is when was the halcyon period when government represented the American people as whole? Not at it's inception, and not now, so when?