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331. You are imagining things. RT is not mentioned in this OP at all. People seem to be obsessed with RT

Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:48 AM

Jul 2014

well a handful in this thread at least.

Why don't you ask ME what it is about, I wrote it after all. But since you chose to try to mind read, let ME tell you why I wrote it.

I wrote it because I am deeply concerned that there are people in this country, war criminals, Cheney et al, who are attacking THIS PRESIDENT for 'not showing leadership' meaning he has NOT RUSHED TO WAR in Syria, in Iran and now in Russia.

I am getting a sense of Deja Vu from watching the coverage of something that should have NOTHING TO DO WITH US, ramping up the rhetoric, asking War Crimninals for their 'expert advice', the same tactics, the emotional manipulation they used in the run up to the Iraq War.

And I see people here writing subtle support for their rhetoric, as we all saw during the Iraq War debacle. Drumming up the hatred for our latest enemy.

And I am horrified, horrified as I was back then, to think there is even a minute chance that these neocons and their online lackeys are pushing this President, who clearly is reluctant to do their bidding, by calling him 'the worst president in history, CHENEY ON THE MSM. NOT on RT, on the MSM, AGAIN.

Do not try to read my mind, I am not ever hesitant about speaking out and speaking for myself.

Let me put it plainly, I do not want this country to go to war with ANYONE, but especially RUSSIA, and the attacks on all things Russian right now is the exact same formula we got with Iraq. I will NOT fall for it, nor will allow anyone to get away with it without at least trying as I did with Iraq, to stop them.

This president needs all the help he can get to STOP the War Criminals and War mongers from pushing him into a disastrous war, which will make Iraq look like a walk in the park.

I have allowed people in this thread, the few who appear to be falling for the rhetoric, try to ascribe motives to my OP, without ASKING.

I wrote similar OPs to this before the Iraq War on other forums. I was attacked then too.

The anti Iraq rhetoric, the demonizing of the country, led us into war. You may be okay with this, for all I know you were okay with the same thing last time. BUT I AM NOT, THAT is what this OP is about. I see the propaganda here, and I have every right to counter it and will.

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The Western Corporate Media Cannot Be Trusted. [View all] sabrina 1 Jul 2014 OP

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #1

I don't get it. Western media can't be trusted...and yes I agree to some point maddezmom Jul 2014 #4

Which does more damage to the American People our corporate media or RT? Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #10

Sorry, do not agree.... maddezmom Jul 2014 #13

If your friend or family member lies to you, you will be hurt far more deeply than Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #25

Like I said we disagree maddezmom Jul 2014 #57

Do you disagree, with my statement that family and friend lies will hurt you far more than Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #62

I never have felt the MSM were my family....they are all in the business to sell a product. maddezmom Jul 2014 #65

I agree with you, they are all in the business of selling a product but to most Americans Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #74

RT has an audience that buys into anything they say as long as no one in the Western media maddezmom Jul 2014 #75

What does YMMV mean? n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #80

your mileage may vary hfojvt Jul 2014 #83

Thank you, hfojvt. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #84

That takes us back to my previous post #25 Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #85

abso friggin lutely! alp227 Jul 2014 #248

RT has an audience that is skeptical of everything so they watch everything they can to get as many sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #95

I share your deep concern. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #179

Sabrina, RT News is just as skewed as U.S. News Media. 2banon Jul 2014 #196

I think it is to be expected that all state sponsored media will be biased. That doesn't mean sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #200

I'll say it again, their reaction seems to me to be somewhat pathological, it is certainly 2banon Jul 2014 #204

I agree. And the only way to combat that is to NEVER be intimidated by it imho. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #206

Not intimidated, just bewildered and frustrated. 2banon Jul 2014 #208

And I disagree on that point. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #263

I think this is a case of apples and oranges. deafskeptic Jul 2014 #255

Back in the day, the American Press used to have some measure of credibility and trust with the Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #266

Yes I disagree Shivering Jemmy Jul 2014 #276

Then tell that to all the women or men whose spouses have betrayed or lied to them about an affair Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #279

I like your analogy, Uncle Joe. That's why I'm harder on Democrats. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #90

Your post is screaming for a theme song, RufuTFirefly. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #96

Thanks for the audio-visual accompaniment, Uncle Joe! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #98

Yep. I'm old enough to see the diff. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #297

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #180

Damn straight! /nt markpkessinger Jul 2014 #311

Have you read Greenwald's book No Place to Hide. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #261

I haven't read it yet, JD, but thanks for the reminder, it is on my list of books to buy. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #358

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #175

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #178

RT pimps for the Russian government and Putin.. US media pimps for Kochs and corps.. everyone Cha Jul 2014 #272

RT; is more effective because of the U.S. Corporate Media, both here and abroad. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #275

RT has "influence" with the Russians and anyone else who gets sucked in.. and I heard that Cha Jul 2014 #277

I'm not making a particular judgement about RT but people are less apt to get sucked into a foreign Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #280

i heard that from my chosen corp media authority tiny elvis Jul 2014 #289

Are they? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #15

According to some here, yes. maddezmom Jul 2014 #59

Who the fuck is defending RT? Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #17

Since it keeps being referred to, RT I mean, one thing I've never seen on RT is Dick Cheney, liar sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #52

Well said. tea and oranges Jul 2014 #88

True, western media are bringing the warhawk talking heads back cprise Jul 2014 #222

The OP is one of the most vocal defenders of RT on DU...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #110

I'm sure you'll get back to us on the stats behind that one, Sid... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #120

What he means is that I dare to watch 'unapproved of' sources and worse, dare not to be intimidated sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #133

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jul 2014 #207

Thank you for your post, LLL, there are few greater evils than censorship and we were subjected to sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #209

+1,000 malaise Jul 2014 #378

... sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #127

The OP loves RT. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #119

That's what SidDithers said. Octafish Jul 2014 #258

He'd also say the sun rises in the East. jeff47 Jul 2014 #282

Here you go. You should read the whole thread. It's loads of laughs & unsubstantiated claims. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #129

There's nothing at your link by sabrina 1 to be ashamed of. Octafish Jul 2014 #259

Thank you Uncle Joe, I am proud of every post I've made online, so I laugh when this particular sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #309

Uncle Joe? Octafish Jul 2014 #341

Now I am honored by you, Octafish. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #346

Lol, Octafish, I am so sorry, I was reading Uncle Joe's comments when I read yours, it was a 'slip sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #350

EXACTLY! ON POINT! 2banon Jul 2014 #150

B-I-N-G-O! mazzarro Jul 2014 #176

I Don't Trust RT Either AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #66

One thing I have never seen on RT, and I do watch it among dozens of other media, is Dick Cheney sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #67

But have you seen Alex Jones? maddezmom Jul 2014 #72

No, the last time I saw Alex Jones was about ten years ago and airc, he was screaming about Bush sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #93

Yeah I saw a guy with an infowars.com license plate frame on the highway the other day 47of74 Jul 2014 #192

Quit it maddezmom, or you'll have 50 gajillion US households after you. And Latin America too. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #116

It is not either/or. One has to seek roody Jul 2014 #226

I avoid MSM, RT and BBC! Stainless Jul 2014 #260

One would think the corporate media would know that by now and I believe they do, Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #5

They're resigned to 'sink or swim" model of bidness. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #298

That's right Eleanors, it's all about "show me the money" now. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #300

Have a good night! Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #303

Does that mean you trust the Corporate Media? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #16

I will give you cute. I hope that's what you are going for. Much easier than trying rhett o rick Jul 2014 #22

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #104

But...but.... zappaman Jul 2014 #91

Shhhh! Maybe no one will notice that grand declaration. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #102

More than that now as they will be seen in Latin America's largest nations not to mention their sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #103

Since when the hell does "Latin America" count as "US households"? You're priceless. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #105

Thanks, lots of people have told me I am priceless! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #108

Intellectually dishonest, but "priceless", nonetheless. You're a perfect fit for RT. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #115

Thanks! I seem to have a regular fan club. I don't sign autographs though, without a fee sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #122

Not so much a "fan club" as a truth squad. Still waiting on links for some of your more... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #128

I don't know, you don't seem to be able to 'dismiss' them! You seem to remember things from sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #136

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #155

I can't feel 'dismissed' if you just won't do it! Lol! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #215

That Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #231

And with the itchiest alert finger to boot! Number23 Jul 2014 #295

I alerted on no one, this third party routine falsely accusing people when nothing could be further sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #310

Holy shit. Number23 Jul 2014 #337

You made a false statement about me, holy shit indeed. Go to the Admins sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #339

I don't care enough to go to the Admins. And the fact that you do so TERRIBLY deeply Number23 Jul 2014 #340

I demand satisfaction, sir!!... SidDithers Jul 2014 #343

Hey, Sid, thanks for kicking my thread, again! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #353

I'm happy to give this foolish push poll more exposure...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #354

Over 300 got 'pushed' so far. It's an easy question for most, sorry to have created sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #355

It's still a push poll... SidDithers Jul 2014 #356

If s/he's so "flattered" by all the folks who point out how absurd all of this is Number23 Jul 2014 #362

Omidyar's billions are different too, I guess... SidDithers Jul 2014 #366

Ah, those pesky roving "principles" that some love to claim so loudly that they have Number23 Jul 2014 #367

I'm satisfied that people know your statement was completely false now. That's all I wanted to sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #351

Wait... you're talking about credibility?? YOU? You, are seriously talking about... Number23 Jul 2014 #361

After being exposed so thoroughly making a totally false statement sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #365

My fave was the time she used veteranstoday, an anti-Semitic hate site according to the SPLC... SidDithers Jul 2014 #368

Like I said, tip of the iceberg Sid Number23 Jul 2014 #369

I find it interesting that you and your "reality based community" (I guess calling it a community is rhett o rick Jul 2014 #195

We always have to have an enemy. As Rove said 'we are an empire now' and empires sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #210

I think that someday the "war" will be fought via the internet. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #216

During the buildup of our empire we had wars to acquire resources and wealth from other nations rhett o rick Jul 2014 #228

Very well said. Re the ME, we are being distracted, again, from that failure which is rapidly sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #234

. stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #375

wtf are you jabbering about? you think there's hatred of Russians? That's like saying KittyWampus Jul 2014 #372

Just the usual blather. zappaman Jul 2014 #374

A healthy skepticism is good and understandable. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #2

Hell no, I don't trust them. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #3

Nope - and don't trust RT either. TBF Jul 2014 #6

I believe all large corporate media outlets have been co-opted by the elite. stillwaiting Jul 2014 #9

Agree - and that's on a global level. TBF Jul 2014 #11

+1 Union Scribe Jul 2014 #44

That's how I feel. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #71

Me too. Nice post, LuvNewcastle. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #183

Never LittleBlue Jul 2014 #7

I don't trust them, I don't trust RT, both are filled with propaganda. But once in a while the Autumn Jul 2014 #8

^^^this^^^ I read and watch them all and after everything is thrown Purveyor Jul 2014 #82

Always good to keep in mind the lies we've been told. DirkGently Jul 2014 #12

I try to properly skeptical of everything. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #14

Well, I wasn't referring to foreign media, I was asking if people here trust the corporate media. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #18

Well, I guess it depends on what they're reporting about. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #21

Thank you for your response. I saw Dick Cheney on the corporate media calling our sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #41

I think we mostly agree. I do think they need to challenge the government a lot more. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #55

Perhaps they are afraid. They probably saw what happened to those reporters, Dan Rather eg, sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #58

A lot of them value their status as insiders. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #64

No problem, thanks for the rational discussion, we need more of it on DU. I agree that some sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #217

Except that you are, indirectly, referring to foreign media. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #256

Yes, I directly referred to Al Jazeera. Are you disputing the OP, that Al Jazeera was not only sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #291

I'm sorry, but "liberals" aren't citing RT as a valid news source Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #299

Liberals are working for RT and appearing frequently on their programs. Too bad Liberals are sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #312

Dupes, and useful idiots Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #319

I don't care who needs a talking head or who doesn't, that's their business, not mine. This sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #321

I'm sorry, but have you noticed where you are? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #323

Do you actually think I don't know where I am? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #326

My problem with it? Timing and context Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #328

You are imagining things. RT is not mentioned in this OP at all. People seem to be obsessed with RT sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #331

it's all too clear what it's about; as I said, you're pretty transparent. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #332

I am always transparent, is there a problem with that? Thank you, transparency is a good thing imo. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #334

I don't particularly want a war with Russia, no. If you assume I'm "for" one... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #335

If you think there are no plans for a war with Russia, you haven't been paying attention over sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #336

The hounds can smell the blood and the money. JEB Jul 2014 #371

Yes, they can. Too bad they have support, now apparently from some claiming to be on the Left. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #373

This entire thread isn't about that as many of my posts upstream point out, our corporate media has Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #327

Dan Rather. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #19

Yep. hunter Jul 2014 #70

Truth Denis 11 Jul 2014 #308

So you do trust the corporate media? rhett o rick Jul 2014 #27

I trust them on some things and not others. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #29

Heck, the corporate media were the biggest cheerleaders for the war. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #32

When the US shot down that airliner, the corporate media lined up to BillZBubb Jul 2014 #28

Fox is an exception, of course. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #30

I remember it also gwheezie Jul 2014 #78

So? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #130

I'd rather not get into an argument about this. It's not really important enough. eom BlueCheese Jul 2014 #152

Down with the corporate media! NuclearDem Jul 2014 #20

Of course I don't trust the US corporate media. Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #23

Lots of people believed the Curveball stories too. I was even wondering considering it sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #46

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #24

This is actually a continuation of a previously locked thread. Coventina Jul 2014 #36

Link, please? I saw no locked thread on this topic. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #315

It's 34 now and why would we be lying about not trusting the corporate media? Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #38

Check your own broad brush first, maybe? DirkGently Jul 2014 #39

PUSH PUSH PUSH that stupid poll MohRokTah Jul 2014 #26

I bet that's worth snark points in the BOG. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #31

I've never been to the BOG. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #33

Doesn't matter Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #186

Huh, I agree it is a push poll and I don't post in the BOG maddezmom Jul 2014 #60

how are your pro-Rus-Si-A "freedom fighters" looking now? snooper2 Jul 2014 #81

Your attempts at trying to smear me are really low. Go pick on someone else. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #131

Worst case I've ever seen. joshcryer Jul 2014 #34

Yep, I've been push polled, and this one was done poorly. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #35

Thanks for your contribution. Of course I am 'pushing' a poll I put up as I am curious to see sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #48

No, you put up a push poll. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #54

If you don't like, don't respond. That's what I do when I see polls I feel are 'pushing' something. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #63

No, you posted a push poll. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #77

I get the feeling someone doesn't know zappaman Jul 2014 #87

Then post your own. I posted a poll, period. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #97

No, you posted a push poll. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #99

You are free to be as wrong as you want to be. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #100

No, you posted a push poll. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #101

Lol! You seem peeved. I asked a simple question, that's all. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #106

No, you posted a push poll. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #112

I didn't say you were. Did you know that you are repeating yourself? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #114

You seem to assume so. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #121

Asking a simple question re the Corporate Media on DU is a push poll? How so? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #123

I think they are trying to explain you posted a push poll snooper2 Jul 2014 #181

I get that, but they haven't explained why asking a question is pushing something, they sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #219

Don't waste your time harun Jul 2014 #243

True, thanks for the advice. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #313

You mad bro? harun Jul 2014 #237

that is soooo 2009 LOL, there are newer memes out there snooper2 Jul 2014 #254

Remember when Kooch used to win those things in a landslide? DU. The only place in America.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #109

well JI7 Jul 2014 #148

That's exactly what I was talking about. It's cognitive dissonance, or willful intellectual... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #158

I assume your answer to the poll would be 'yes' then? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #191

So who gives a shit? MattSh Jul 2014 #170

maybe the moon landing was fake also JI7 Jul 2014 #37

Now there's another intelligent addition to the discussion. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #40

how can we trust the media ? remember, it was the cold war and we wanted to beat the soviets JI7 Jul 2014 #42

I am confused. Do you agree with the OP or not? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #47

western media reported the moon landing , the OP is about western media JI7 Jul 2014 #49

So you agree with the OP that the corporate media can't be trusted. Thanks for rhett o rick Jul 2014 #50

we saw what they did to Michael Hastings JI7 Jul 2014 #51

No, that was real, we did not have a totally corporate owned media back then, we still had the sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #213

Most media cannot be trusted malaise Jul 2014 #43

FINALLY! It took 43 posts until somebody got it......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #73

Socialists of the world unite malaise Jul 2014 #76

... Enthusiast Jul 2014 #185

It's all there for us to read and understand malaise Jul 2014 #190

Thank you, malaise. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #250

There seems to be a pathological resistance in understanding this, Tn. 2banon Jul 2014 #198

Nailed it. ctsnowman Jul 2014 #189

Yup! I'm in this camp. Corporate media is designed to give their desired impression, hue Jul 2014 #220

As a good friend likes to say malaise Jul 2014 #224

Could you please edit out your link? alp227 Jul 2014 #265

Yep, I wish more DUers realized that and didn't believe the misinformation Rex Jul 2014 #267

As you can see from the snark from the "reality based community" that they apparently don't agree. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #45

Nope, but I don't trust RT or Alex Jones types either maddezmom Jul 2014 #61

As I do. And I object at the same few people here that try to lock and hide OP's that rhett o rick Jul 2014 #132

Imagine you can trust corporations more then the governments they are buying. Hilarious indeed. malaise Jul 2014 #187

Greenwald.... obxhead Jul 2014 #53

The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Jul 2014 #56

Of Course the Media Can be Trusted� AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #68

I miss Brezhnev too. Throd Jul 2014 #69

I don't Flatpicker Jul 2014 #79

wyldwolf, you are such a rebel. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #86

They can be trusted sabrina, to be complicit. They're great at it too. K&R Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #89

I Don't Trust RT Either stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #92

Don't trust Al Jazeera either. totodeinhere Jul 2014 #94

Keep trying, sabrina... SidDithers Jul 2014 #107

My old friend Sid. Thanks for stopping by. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #111

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Aw, he's just looking out for our best interests. I keep trying to reassure him that sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #169

When I see the RT defenders speaking with just1voice... SidDithers Jul 2014 #201

Correc tion, you mean when you see Americans who live in a democracy opposing censorship sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #232

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #113

Have we met? Welcome to DU btw, for a first post, you sure got in all the talking points. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #117

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #142

And how would someone with, now 3 posts, 'know' all these fringe talking points that occasionally sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #146

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #174

Quite an expert about DU, for someone who's been a member < 1 day. MattSh Jul 2014 #171

Reminded me of pretzel warrior. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #223

Sad, but true. It's a malady, and most sufferers present with absolutely no sense of irony. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #164

I didn't see the hidden post, but I am judging from your response that it sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #205

I think it was pretzel warrior. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #247

Definitely sounded familiar whoever it was. That is probably a good guess. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #314

Here is a trick Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #118

I do gather news from various sources around the world and believe we are capable of filtering out sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #167

Are you kidding? wundermaus Jul 2014 #124

Thanks, that is very good advice which I mostly follow. I don't watch the Corporate Media sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #126

That's good advice but how do you vote? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #134

I'm a registered voter. wundermaus Jul 2014 #269

Wow, what a fucked up thread! whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #125

It's fun though, isn't it? Revealing too although that was not the intention. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #137

Carry on Sabrina whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #141

many things are fucked up, but i knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 back then, and i know Obama JI7 Jul 2014 #138

Actually� the thread's pretty good... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #140

Thanks MMsMom, I'm thoroughly enjoying it myself. Far more than I had expected. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #149

Well, there's a lot of other things going on than what can be seen on the surface. jeff47 Jul 2014 #143

As she detailed in the OP her mistrust of the MSM whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #145

The problem is she doesn't distrust all media. jeff47 Jul 2014 #212

I have asked you this before, politely. Do NOT speak for me. I do not know you and you certainly sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #318

I'm not. I'm recounting your posting history. jeff47 Jul 2014 #344

So there are none, as I already knew. Making false statements about others only loses credibility sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #347

Did I give you permission to speak for me? You don't, making stuff up, putting thoughts in people's sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #197

Yeah, it's such a pain in the ass when one's history catches up with them. jeff47 Jul 2014 #211

Another personal attack is all you have? I am proud of all my comments on DU, wouldn't change one sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #214

+1... SidDithers Jul 2014 #203

So true... MattSh Jul 2014 #172

I remembered most of those things, sabrina 1... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #135

Good post, thank you. Keiser used to post here, but I guess as DU began to change, he doesn't bother sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #151

can Rachel Maddow be Trusted ? how about the BBC ? JI7 Jul 2014 #139

The BBC is state sponsored and was coopted during the Blair era after they published sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #144

it absolutely cannot be trusted or respected samsingh Jul 2014 #147

Why do you love Putin? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #153

I don't know, I can't help it, I loved Saddam too and I love Assad and ... sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #157

Hey, me too! MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #159

Wow, that's creepy, stalking DUers on Twitter now? This place is beginning to scare me. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #162

You're right. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #163

And people are in a panic 'cause I got a gun. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #301

Yeah! Have you no shame? Enthusiast Jul 2014 #188

Looks like a washout vote, no doubt the usual suspects will... Rex Jul 2014 #154

There really are so few reporters anymore. gvstn Jul 2014 #156

What a tool he is. I read he was originally a 'reporter' on a Christian network. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #161

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Great post, PP. I couldn't agree more. A democracy cannot survive without a free press and we sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #165

Redemption Octafish Jul 2014 #218

Agree On All Points n/t LarryNM Jul 2014 #285

"They don't believe in democracy. They believe in making people STUPID. " bvar22 Jul 2014 #239

Demise of the "Fairness Doctrine"....Opened the door.... KoKo Jul 2014 #273

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #166

Other. I don't totally trust ANY media. LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #173

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #177

I like this poll, apropos of the recent polls on the same topic. Quantess Jul 2014 #182

Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press Octafish Jul 2014 #184

And yet, people keep sucking it in like it's a lifeline to what's happening in the world. gtar100 Jul 2014 #193

Sometimes yes, sometimes no etherealtruth Jul 2014 #194

I trust them to promote endless distraction from real issues. JEB Jul 2014 #199

Wow, meta-trolling is support of RT... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #202

�"could you be any more obvious?"... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #225

I know what is going on with this thread... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #227

Already understand communication 101, doc MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #241

RT stands for Russia Times... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #245

I find everything you've explained... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #251

Well, you're right on one thing... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #271

I hope you realize that your argument is spurious MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #274

What is going on this thread has been going on since I first discovered DU in 2004. Criticism of sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #324

A long diatribe for your agenda... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #342

My agenda is Liberal. Thank you for noting that. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #348

RT is NOT liberal. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #352

Censorship is not Liberal. The Corporate Media is not Liberal. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #357

You meant to say in support of a free and open press and access to all sources of information. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #235

So you're opposed to RT... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #236

I oppose censorship of all sources of information, books, media and speech. I don't care how sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #240

So you're not going to link to RT anymore? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #246

... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #268

I know, MMM, I read that post with a sense of awe. That anyone on a Dem forum at least, sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #320

Sorry, sabrina 1... MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #270

Your memory is kind of faulty Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #221

Yet Blair still retaliated for fiecely questioning his judgement on Iraq cprise Jul 2014 #229

Thank you, it's difficult to remember details of all the assaults on the press during that time. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #242

The BBC has never been the same since the Blair government's sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #230

You mean to tell me Rupert Murdoch Billy Budd Jul 2014 #233

Thanks for that link. Who would have thought that the CIA would sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #238

Corporate media is little more than propaganda emsimon33 Jul 2014 #244

I remember the media fail during the Bush V Gore recount & how they were reporting on it like it was jillan Jul 2014 #249

A free press can, of course, be good or bad, but, most certainly without freedom... Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #252

Good quote, thank you. Thomas Jefferson expressed similar sentiments, despite being the sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #253

Here's another from Tom. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #257

Damn "lib'rul" Media !!! blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #262

I don't trust any corporate or state-owned media. Chan790 Jul 2014 #264

All or nothing is how babies see things. aquart Jul 2014 #278

Thanks for the advice, who would have thought I had no adult awareness of complexity. I just asked sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #281

Thanks for the laugh. aquart Jul 2014 #304

Amen. Number23 Jul 2014 #338

Wait. Weren't you all "Rah Rah" about the western media taking down Ghadafi? mainer Jul 2014 #283

Wrong, I totally opposed the invasion of Libya by NATO. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #292

Then I apologize. I too was firmly against our Libya intervention mainer Jul 2014 #293

One of the reasons I don't get into a lot of this stuff, is because I got rid of the M$M a long time Rex Jul 2014 #284

So what's the alternative? Blogsites, which are OH so accurate? mainer Jul 2014 #286

The internet yes it is so scarrrryyy that people snark about blogs and twitter. Rex Jul 2014 #287

I'd take the MSM over blogsites and internet rumors mainer Jul 2014 #290

Yes take the word of 6 conglomerates over the free voice of the WWW. Rex Jul 2014 #305

The MSM takes a lot of stuff from the internet nowadays CJCRANE Jul 2014 #325

MEDIA CONTROL Billy Budd Jul 2014 #288

Don't forget Pierre Omidyar...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #296

But but but...yep Rex Jul 2014 #306

Push-poll. In fact, I pushed out a butt-splattering Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #294

do you think Sandy Hook didn't actually happen either because it was reported on the media JI7 Jul 2014 #302

I don't think Sabrina was saying that the corporate media NEVER reports events truthfully. . . markpkessinger Jul 2014 #316

and that has been the case with this plane being shot down, it's mostly the Sandy Hook was false JI7 Jul 2014 #317

Thank you markpkessinger. You are exactly correct. I was under the impression that Liberals didn't sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #322

I think the OP explains exactly what I don't believe. Do you NOT believe that the Corporate Media sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #329

i know the media sucks, but i was able to see through all of that , just as i am with RT JI7 Jul 2014 #330

RT will not lead this country into another disastrous war. THE MSM HAS and is dangerously on sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #333

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Wow, look at the usual suspects freakout at the truth! Rex Jul 2014 #307

Some media must be trustworthy enough treestar Jul 2014 #345

On some things all media is trustworthy such as reporting disasters if the have no political sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #349

The M$M and RT are just different sides of the same coin. Rex Jul 2014 #360

Western Corporate Media = M$M. State Run Media = RT. Rex Jul 2014 #359

Much of the Western Corporate Media is also state supported. Al Jazeera is entirely funded by sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #364

Very true. Taking news from just one source is always a bad idea. Rex Jul 2014 #370

DURec leftstreet Jul 2014 #363

they shouldn't be called media samsingh Jul 2014 #377

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017205001 stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #379