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TheKentuckian

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29. The folks that think hollering "GOTV! GOTV!! GOTV!!!" love to ignore and poo poo
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 12:55 PM
Jul 2014

Is that "embrace the suck", "eat your peas", and partisan horror stories that the politicians will not collaborate in their campaigns, instead opting for "bipartisanship", "closer than you might think", and "meeting in the middle" creating a mismatch between any urgency to get to the polls and the message of the participants in what we are trying to sell as a matter of life and death is muddied, at best.

They also seem to not have a firm grasp that this isn't a national election but rather a mix of local and statewide races which means that no matter what the numbers are in strongholds and safe seats are that those margins are meaningless in overcoming gerrymandering halfway across the country where just flogging the base to get out isn't going to cut is and the message designed to supposedly attract independents isn't effective and even can be counterproductive, under the impression that the average voter is looking for the same thing as upperclassmen, east coast, limousine type liberals (aka solid conservatives who aren't big bigots, do not oppose abortion for those who can pay for it, and accept in theory that someone will have to pay some taxes)

There is this weird concept that the candidates, their policies, and what they do with power are virtually meaningless, we just need to show up and clap like Hell and all will be gravy for Tinkerbelle.

I think our strategy is pretty sucky, our message muddy and convoluted, and our politicians too compromised and mealy mouthed to sell as life and death different (even if it actually is).

Let's keep it real, after at least four years of unapologetically assaulting women, actively disenfranchised black folks for far longer, absolutely shitting on immigration, and a fucking nonsense shutdown we are having this conversation means we are not doing something right but the only answer seems to be to flog the voters harder, increase the mix of right wing policies (no matter how unpopular) and dump on the left in right wing fashion.

All I hear is that the brick quota will be raised but the straw ration will not increase from the DNC and the DNC Superfriends who I think are even more hard headed and goofy than the opposition who at least will admit they need to sell their bullshit differently (yes, far too stupid to admit it is their bullshit that is the problem) but we can't even go that far, our answer is do it harder.

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! DeSwiss Jul 2014 #1
Exactly.. sendero Jul 2014 #8
The rule will also apply to YOU and those you love. BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #10
WE will fight it, but maybe righty needs to get what he wants randys1 Jul 2014 #26
Had Democrats not caved on regulating the banks, the entire country would be better off. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #2
I've pointed this out a couple of times. Rod Beauvex Jul 2014 #30
The Washington Post is doing everything they can to make that prediction come true. Cha Jul 2014 #3
I've been blowing this warning horn for a while Savannahmann Jul 2014 #4
I used to read the WAPO. I stopped about 2 years asjr Jul 2014 #5
If only our side had some of those "policy" things to run on. Scuba Jul 2014 #6
It is scary. Damn scary. NC_Nurse Jul 2014 #7
Sorry - waiting until 2016 won't work at all. BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #9
^^^this^^^ Freddie Jul 2014 #12
Not quite sure how BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #13
Oh, I always vote. But I'm not excited about getting anyone else NC_Nurse Jul 2014 #25
The folks that think hollering "GOTV! GOTV!! GOTV!!!" love to ignore and poo poo TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #29
It really is scary! Kath1 Jul 2014 #14
Meh...we have been on that route ever since the President didn't put BushCo up on war crimes. Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #11
Oh please! This is from a rightwing rag! ananda Jul 2014 #15
Right?! maced666 Jul 2014 #16
Only one way to avoid this Android3.14 Jul 2014 #17
I think the Dems will maintain a slim majority in the Senate. Trust Buster Jul 2014 #18
2016 OldRedneck Jul 2014 #19
Another scenario: yet more veto wars, and don't forget the confirmation wars Jim Lane Jul 2014 #24
If they take control of the senate newfie11 Jul 2014 #20
Nah, Americans are too stupid to see what is happening to them, they will just randys1 Jul 2014 #27
As we can see today and as we have seen in the past... kentuck Jul 2014 #21
so being fucking looney tunes gets you elected? i ain't buying the media's take. spanone Jul 2014 #22
Time to start that political refugee paperwork PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #23
Anyone who plans to vote Republican should be asked to make a list ... JEFF9K Jul 2014 #28
You forget these folks believe in a delusional ideology that has a long track record of failure. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #31
Just it time for the complete Third Way take over of the Democratic Party. L0oniX Jul 2014 #32
The same Washington Post that published this? conservaphobe Jul 2014 #33
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