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magical thyme

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34. I'm on dialup and didn't have time to allow the entire thing to download. however,
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:54 PM
Apr 2012

I had a hard time accepting that she could be a Zimmerman.

It is one thing to have grown up in an atmosphere fear of men, especially black men.

It is quite another thing to deliberately choose to follow somebody that you have been taught to fear, first in a car and then on foot. Especially when the police have specifically instructed you to not follow them. I cannot believe that, even lacking education, etc. that she would have chosen to arm herself and follow somebody she feared. The vast majority of people, in that situation, would at most report the suspect to the police and then let them handle it. Especially given that is what they instructed Zimmerman to do.

She has less in common with George Zimmerman, a wannabe hero cop with a gun going after a "suspect," than she has with Trayvon, a young man preparing to go to college.

And there is evidence that Zimmerman was not racist. Much of what I have read about him suggests other motives in arming himself and following his "suspect," not the least of which was his desire to be a cop and failure to achieve that. I think he may have imagined he was going to be a hero, catching the neighborhood burglars, rather than a racist going after an easy, unarmed target. Delusional, and didn't wake up from his delusion until it was too late.

On the other hand, as a white woman I grew up in a white, middle class PA neighborhood in the 50s and 60s and my parents were rightwing republicans and racist. But I don't remember feeling particular fear of young black men, and in fact was good friends with several young men from Philly's inner city who used to come out our way and hang out with a friend's mother, who was a social worker.

I *have* been stalked by men in my life, and in every case but one, the man was white. The exception was an Indian in the US with an H1B.

I have *never* felt the fear of a group of young black men that I consistently feel of groups of young white men. I have never been harassed by young black men, whereas I have been by young white men.

I understand what she is saying, but I don't think it accurately reflects this situation plus I think her inexperience shines through. All imho, of course.

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Holy snap. I've fallen on my ass and I can't get back up. Zalatix Apr 2012 #1
Wow leftynyc Apr 2012 #2
Great video! Lilyeye Apr 2012 #3
I'll bet the RW haters jumped at that video. Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #4
This is a person who truly understands what's going on MrScorpio Apr 2012 #5
Is the purpose of the shirts really... urgk Apr 2012 #6
I believe she is pointing out that Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #8
As I see it, there are two big questions here: urgk Apr 2012 #11
Yes and Yes. Iggo Apr 2012 #23
Yes, having an opinion can be easy. urgk Apr 2012 #39
Yes. Iggo Apr 2012 #42
:) (n/t) urgk Apr 2012 #44
'Hitting the dog' is a metaphor for an idea or Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #24
Ah, I see your point about the "hit dog." urgk Apr 2012 #41
Ah! Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #45
Me too. I'm trying to learn, though. :) (n/t) urgk Apr 2012 #46
the point of her message: i am george zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #32
Wonderful Schulz Apr 2012 #7
Wow. This girl is BADASS! johnlucas Apr 2012 #9
Did you go to Maryland? Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #10
No. It's just life experience offline & online johnlucas Apr 2012 #12
I agree. Are_grits_groceries Apr 2012 #13
Thank you, johnlucas... OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #20
The fact that you have tears shows that progress is being made johnlucas Apr 2012 #29
"Fear comes from ignorance...from not knowing" OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #31
I thought she made good points, too. Iris Apr 2012 #36
Holy SHIT! She sounds like one of my daughters!!! HopeHoops Apr 2012 #14
Me, too OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #19
My eldest is in Budapest for the semester. Third time to Europe. Tough kid. HopeHoops Apr 2012 #22
Dang...that's awesome. Mine wants to go to Thailand... OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #27
Mine's a junior this year. It's rough, but you have to cut them loose. HopeHoops Apr 2012 #28
Wise words and well articulated-from all randr Apr 2012 #15
very very good..... yea. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #16
Awesome! Lucy Goosey Apr 2012 #17
Thank you for this. Sharing. OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #18
I hope someone at MSNBC picks this up for discussion. Whisp Apr 2012 #21
Holy Crap. I'm sending this to everyone I know. eom Chalco Apr 2012 #25
very thoughtful, but I disagree with her basic premise magical thyme Apr 2012 #26
i agree with her...and you noiretextatique Apr 2012 #33
I'm on dialup and didn't have time to allow the entire thing to download. however, magical thyme Apr 2012 #34
your parents were racists, but you chose not to be a racist noiretextatique Apr 2012 #35
exactly. I chose as this young woman chose magical thyme Apr 2012 #37
I may have more to say on this later, but this young lady brought tears to my eyes. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #30
She's right varelse Apr 2012 #38
yup, awesome young woman here! 90-percent Apr 2012 #40
That is so great, I can't believe that I missed it. joshcryer Apr 2012 #43
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