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Warren Stupidity

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6. I just want to know what our game plan is for getting involved in the mess in Ukraine.

Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:40 PM

Jul 2014

'cause I don't think we have any cards worth playing, so other than bluster and outrage, there is basically fuck all we can do. As long as everyone recognizes the reality that we have no real options, it is ok to continue with the bluster and outrage. The problem is that frequently people, even national leaders, get all caught up in the emotional turmoil of the bluster and outrage campaign and they fucking forget that they don't have any real options, that Russia still has 12000 nukes, that the Russian army could occupy all of Ukraine tomorrow and that there is fuck all we can do about it.

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Can we talk intelligently about Russia and Ukraine? [View all] JackRiddler Jul 2014 OP

I await your responses... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #1

Bookmarking for later Jack Union Scribe Jul 2014 #2

ditto dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4

Thanks. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #28

Some fact, some fiction, some acknowledgement that Putin isn't a prince, but much of TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #3

I just want to know what our game plan is for getting involved in the mess in Ukraine. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #6

I don't think we are going to get further involved militarily, beyond non-lethal aid, TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #7

Putin is a prince! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #16

I'm not sure we should have a dog in this fight? kentuck Jul 2014 #5

Thank for the most sensible and in-depth analysis I've seen on this situation, by far. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #8

Merci! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #19

It's nuance inter-spread with canned talking points. joshcryer Jul 2014 #9

The Kiev government includes a fascist party. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #17

Yes, the tea party has something like 1% too. joshcryer Jul 2014 #21

"Maidan was" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #22

Poroshenko is the head of the government. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23

"new elections after the terrorist crisis is over" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #24

If Cliven Bundey pulled what Igor is pulling... joshcryer Jul 2014 #25

Quite possibly. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #26

I'm not a supporter of Putin, I'm not a supporter of the Kiev regime Dems to Win Jul 2014 #10

I'm sure we'll get to sell arms to somebody. JEB Jul 2014 #11

kick kentuck Jul 2014 #12

Thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #18

I always get annoyed when the MIghty Wurlitzer spins up one of these political witch hunts. bemildred Jul 2014 #13

I'm reminded of the Wolfowitz doctrine, PNAC and The Grand Chessboard jakeXT Jul 2014 #14

This is excellent - TBF Jul 2014 #15

Of course I don't mind, thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #20

What I've said all along...neither side are "good guys",... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #27

And now the plot turns. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #29

Month later: Sadly. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #30