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morningfog

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55. What does "back down" mean?

Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:23 PM

Jul 2014

At least your proposal of resignation is something that can be delineated. But, he'd just wait a few years and come back again.

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Putin Should Be Ostricized From All Internantional Meetings.... [View all] global1 Jul 2014 OP

Like they should have done to the US in 2003? Autumn Jul 2014 #1

Russia has a security council seat and UN membership. How are you excluding them from that? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #2

You stop all flyover rights for NATO member nations. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #4

what? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #8

Putin could not get to the UN unless he can fly over Europe. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #11

There's almost certainly no way that's legal. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #9

You most certainly can. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #10

All flight plans must be approved by the country geek tragedy Jul 2014 #12

So we should violate our treaty obligations and push toward war Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #14

What treaty obligations? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16

I believe it is a violation of UN convention to deny a member state access to the headquarters. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #18

They denied Yassir Arafat access. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #21

A. That we did it does not make it legal or ethical B. Russia is a permanent member of the UN. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #22

This is all speculation of course. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #23

Everything said on this board is, in essence, speculation. Yours just happens to be especially daft. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #24

I'm sure Evo Morales would agree that heads of state geek tragedy Jul 2014 #35

And I distinctly remember that being a particularly serious affair. But you seem confused... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #38

The larger point being that if Putin is going to geek tragedy Jul 2014 #39

Say what? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #26

There was a giant stink about it. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #34

In what special world do you exist that committing an illegal act justifies it? Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #40

The law on the US needing to allow whomever a foreign geek tragedy Jul 2014 #43

Comparing an Iranian diplomat to the President of Russia is so ridiculous it's obscene. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #44

Only because Iran is so marginalized and viewed as geek tragedy Jul 2014 #51

Well, no, because comparing a diplomat to a head of state is absurd. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #54

Your dishonesty in this discussion is on view. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #59

The old "liar liar pants on fire" rejoinder. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #60

Um, you said something untrue and then when called on it Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #61

either that, or you're just not able to follow the argument geek tragedy Jul 2014 #62

"They denied Yassir Arafat access." nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #63

they denied his visa request. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #64

Yassir Arafat did not represent a member state. former9thward Jul 2014 #32

That's not going to happen. morningfog Jul 2014 #53

Stop all landing rights at all airports in NATO member nations. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #3

I believe that is illegal. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #6

Nope, any nation can stop any landing rights in their territory. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #7

cuban aircraft fly to New York to transport UN diplomatic personnel. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #13

Right the only exception. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #15

No really they can't blocade diplomatic flights without breaking treaty obligations. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #17

As I've been reading, it appears countries negotiate treaties with other countries for air access. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #19

It's happened before. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #25

Except it would be a baseless threat and mean nothing. It would be difficult enough to enforce... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #28

Which or What Behavior of Putin would you like to "modify?" KoKo Jul 2014 #29

His spport of separatists in Ukraine. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #37

Morons? You don't think these people have a cause that resonates with them? KoKo Jul 2014 #42

And, what would that accomplish? What do you want from Russia? KoKo Jul 2014 #47

I have yet to hear anyone offer a plan or an objective. morningfog Jul 2014 #57

That won't happen. morningfog Jul 2014 #56

Unless he ordered it shot down, I don't see him as responsible. arcane1 Jul 2014 #5

.. Malone Jul 2014 #48

Putin doesn't know shame. He responds to pressure by doubling down. randome Jul 2014 #20

Yep, sadly that's quite true. I've heard the Russian people like him, they see him as a RKP5637 Jul 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jul 2014 #27

Putin RedFury Jul 2014 #31

I'm sorry, does invading and annexing part of a sovereign nation not count as imperialism to you? Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jul 2014 #46

He didn't invade Crimea...it's your "TP" thinking folks here don't read? KoKo Jul 2014 #49

Russian troops invaded Crimea before the referendums. And not everyone was happy about that. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #52

By invading his neighbor? You have an inverted geek tragedy Jul 2014 #36

So you say RedFury Jul 2014 #45

Bless your heart. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #50

So you say. Cha Jul 2014 #58

What does "back down" mean? morningfog Jul 2014 #55