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In reply to the discussion: Game Changer (if true): What Did US Spy Satellites See in Ukraine? [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)58. Keep spinning
You nailed it, except for that part about saying I was demanding people blindly follow me (I didn't make that argument).
You did when you insisted other people are not reading your posts.
And also, that part about blindly trusting other media sources (I''m not advocating anyone trust any media source blindly--in fact, if you read (I know, I know, that's an issue for you) my original post, you'll note I put in "if true" because I have no idea if Mr. Parry's source is credible.
Except a single disclaimer doesn't do it when you spend the rest of the thread talking as if it was true, and talking about what a great source the author in the OP is.
I do know his suggestion we not jump to conclusions is historically a sound one and, in the real world that exists outside of this thread, does not mean an embrace of "Team Putin".
Except those demanding we wait longer are utterly ignoring things like laws of physics, and what the relevant parties are doing in public after the shoot-down.
We don't need to wait and see if the sun will rise in the East tomorrow.
And, finally, the media competency thing is kind of essential to the not jumping to conclusions thing because if the US media did us wrong by cheerleading us to disaster last time, they might be doing the same thing this time
And here you assume anyone who disagrees with you only watches US media. Again. And is utterly incapable of thinking for themselves. Again. And yet your reply started claiming it wasn't about US media.
So tell me how much you just want to wait and see, and just want to ask questions while insisting that everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot who does whatever US media tells them to do.
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Game Changer (if true): What Did US Spy Satellites See in Ukraine? [View all]
Karmadillo
Jul 2014
OP
Two excellent journalists both of whom have been right far more often than the MSM
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#6
Agree. Over at conservativecrackpots.com they really hate Parry and Escobar. nt
bananas
Jul 2014
#84
Well what are they going to do about the teenager and the farmer who say they saw the missiles being
kelliekat44
Jul 2014
#152
10 cm (4-inches) is probably the maximum for any existing - in ideal conditions.
ThoughtCriminal
Jul 2014
#10
They absolutely have that ability. But there is a serious flaw in the OP article.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#11
Well , let me be clear, I was in AF Space Command and had friends who dealt with those satellites.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#22
Even if they can identify the uniforms, they can't identify them as definitively Ukrainian
Spider Jerusalem
Jul 2014
#53
Even more to your point, nothing is to say the rebels didn't steal and are using Ukrainian uniforms.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#91
There is actually a law of optics that talks about the relationship between resolution and viewing
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#159
Street level google is almost that good. I used to have an atlas of China made by CIA satellite pix.
freshwest
Feb 2015
#175
If I'm not mistaken, both Russia and the separatists have denied firing the missile.
Karmadillo
Jul 2014
#35
I love how everyone on DU has suddenly become an expert on spy satellite imagery.
former9thward
Jul 2014
#141
Consortium News lost all credibility after Syria. But DU's diehards will keep searching f/this crap
KittyWampus
Jul 2014
#20
There are also fascists in Russia's government. Why do you always gloss over that point? nt
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#92
I will try to be better and use you as a model, in fact. You nailed it, except
Karmadillo
Jul 2014
#56
When ANY supposed news source becomes the equivalent of Baghdad Bob they lose credibility.
KittyWampus
Jul 2014
#25
You don't get to tell people to 'grow up' when you're adovcating the use of anti-semitic sites
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#117
no, I won't 'chill' at the idea of Nazi propaganda being mainstreamed here.
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#121
This is one of the big problems with the Executive branch's embrace of lying
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2014
#62
If we accept basic physical science and empirical evidence we do know they're telling the truth.
KittyWampus
Jul 2014
#66
Exactly - it corroborates what the web page said, from a different source
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#97
"This thing is as murky as it is horrendous. But answer & blame will emerge."
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2014
#131
Well, my neighbor's grandson's wife's hairdresser, who's normally a reliable source...
ColesCountyDem
Jul 2014
#60
I would honestly be surprised if even the most advanced satellites could resolve beer bottles.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#76
Mr. Parry,Sir, Has Now Officially Given Up ANY Pretense Of Being A Journalist
The Magistrate
Jul 2014
#83
Please. US satellites, which can see ticks on a dog, never saw MH370, never saw MH17, never saw....
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#88
It helps if you understand the technology. It's good, but it isn't magical. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#106
No question. I've seen it with my own eyes. Albeit the version from 23 years ago. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#174
You mean this might be another neocon wargasm, and the conservadems are pandering to them again? n/t
betterdemsonly
Jul 2014
#129