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freshwest

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51. 'Ponzi scheme' Koch meme. 'Shell game' GOP meme since SS began.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:21 AM
Jul 2014

None of it is either, unless the public does not believe in it. The method is from Segretti, and used to make people give up.

We either believe in keeping our promises to each other and ourselves and take on the responsiblity, or we run from it. We can participate, or we can stay on the side lines and accuse those doing the work as stupid, lazy, weak, ineffective or even dishonest.

But who is really being those things?

It always looks to me like the plantation owner who beat a slave when he didn't do things fast enough for the owner, (not for the worker, but the overseer, which carries through with where I'm going here) but work the overseer would never lower himself to do, or was incapable of doing.

Sound familiar?

The job of being a political activist is humbling personally. It can be risky socially, physically and financially. It is often unpopular, thankless in the short term and very unpleasant. Although the reward in the end is great, even if those doing gain little or nothing, for the ones who follow. The work for the worker is the work itself, not the opinion of the overseer.

It is cynicism that is bitter and lazy, wants instant gratification, just as the GOP and the Libertarians promise. They always see their thinking as superior for they have leisure to think, the confidence from no opposition in their face in politics, and not forced to work with adversaries. So they can remain blissfully pure.

To reject working positively for change leads to the same thing as the RW believes. And the result of always seeing everything in B&W, so awful and hopeless, allows one to feel justified at adopting the 'it's every man for himself' route and fall into selfishness. The negativity is used to explain why they are willing to stand by and let all burn, while they or others devouring the basic means for change like termites.

It's a win-win for those who accuse and refuse to honor the worker who is doing the job they wouldn't or couldn't do anyway. Mouths are kept happily busy and hearts are proud, but the hands doing the jobs are few, easy to take potshots at as they are busy working as they are confined to one thing, becoming a slow moving target and too busy to fight the disrespect.

Have you ever had a job like that?

I sure have. And I've not forgotten those who didn't know what how hard I or others worked, which they later learned and were amazed at what was accomplished, as they'd been busy sniping for the win. They do not have the capacity to be allies in a cause, to suffer in silence and be humble while getting the work done, because they took the cheap way to feel big, and didn't do a damn thing for anything but their own ego no matter how many words they use for cover.

It's a nasty little game being played and it's purely human and easy to feel that one is the winner. But we all lose by listening to these voices.

JMHO, 1SBM.

ReTHUGlicans are like a runaway train. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #1
And the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down. Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #27
True. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #28
More like - THE BIG BUS intaglio Jul 2014 #59
Lol, perfect! MoonRiver Jul 2014 #60
Yup! elleng Jul 2014 #2
The hell if their suit is for an Executive Order to delay employer rules, Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #3
The lawsuit, not yet even filed, is summer talk bait for Republican politicians who are committed to Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #4
"The racist white demographic needs to be herded by hate to get to the polls" Triana Jul 2014 #6
Exactly. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #32
All is not perfect, say I, but we sure are a lot better off than we were in the final days of the JDPriestly Jul 2014 #5
But: The Official DU Response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #7
Bingo! BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #8
The first two "But"s are absolutely true. former9thward Jul 2014 #9
Have you ever considered ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #11
No I have not considered it because it is nonsense. former9thward Jul 2014 #12
Nonsense because ...? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #15
The were 500,000+ jobs that were eliminated. former9thward Jul 2014 #18
Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #34
How do we know this? I'm starting a business because of ACA now, I'm no longer tethered to my uponit7771 Jul 2014 #64
Like everything else in this country basic numbers have become political. former9thward Jul 2014 #65
Yes they have ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #69
Hmmmmm, interesting ... we don't have to go to who quit because of ACA ... it's on 10% max anyway uponit7771 Jul 2014 #76
unnnnnn, there are some that show their work and are credentialed... If I see some from there uponit7771 Jul 2014 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #68
I've read that creeksneakers2 Jul 2014 #47
I read that in the Wall Street Journal former9thward Jul 2014 #52
So you saw the real numbers ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #70
You'd think you wouldn't have to say that to a progressive. nt. SunSeeker Jul 2014 #84
Over the past year, part-time jobs were 9.2% of the 2.1 million new jobs progree Jul 2014 #66
Yep, I'm just conspiring all over the place. former9thward Jul 2014 #82
Over the past year, 9.1% of the job gains were part time, and 91.9% were full time progree Jul 2014 #87
I suppose next you will defend the decline in the labor participation rate. former9thward Jul 2014 #90
Half is due to the retirement of the baby boomers, half isn't progree Jul 2014 #94
The Wall Street high is simply a matter of your tax dollars flowing to the banks obxhead Jul 2014 #13
Okay; but the tens of millions of retiree's ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #17
Oh, obxhead Jul 2014 #20
not true. my retirement fund has tripled since Obama took office. tripled. spanone Jul 2014 #19
So has mine obxhead Jul 2014 #21
believe what you wish. spanone Jul 2014 #25
I would love to believe that all is well obxhead Jul 2014 #35
"... As you stay invested in a system that youcall a shell game." ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #36
'Ponzi scheme' Koch meme. 'Shell game' GOP meme since SS began. freshwest Jul 2014 #51
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #55
What's a retirement fund? progressoid Jul 2014 #56
and the health "care" corporations are reaping historic profits, and Doctor_J Jul 2014 #30
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #37
Ooh, close Doctor_J Jul 2014 #44
Oh so wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #50
Well, Dr J, what you call "disgusting" I call a lifesaver. My husband has had Type I catbyte Jul 2014 #93
you refuse to look past your own front door Doctor_J Jul 2014 #95
Where do you get the $400 billion profit figure? progree Jul 2014 #96
20% or so of a 3 trillion dollar industry Doctor_J Jul 2014 #98
"20% or so" is not just profits but all expenses and overheads of the health insurers progree Jul 2014 #99
And you refuse to look past your arrogance and self righteousness. You are also catbyte Jul 2014 #97
You'll never be happy IronLionZion Jul 2014 #62
Can you please explain.... A HERETIC I AM Jul 2014 #83
This. Just this. riqster Jul 2014 #23
You mean you agree with the counter-points? Hissyspit Jul 2014 #39
You forgot one.... CAG Jul 2014 #46
+1 krawhitham Jul 2014 #53
Bingo. JoePhilly Jul 2014 #58
A lot of those are valid points Chathamization Jul 2014 #80
Of course it all counts. And all of your "buts" raise valid points. morningfog Jul 2014 #81
nailed it. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #88
TPP being pushed hard obxhead Jul 2014 #10
"How's that hopey, changey stuff?" Palin asks..... AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2014 #14
Not well. obxhead Jul 2014 #16
Am I? Am I really? No, I'm not. Better than McCain?!? Of course Obama is better AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2014 #22
Which is why I'm voting for the Dem nominee in 2016, whoever it is. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #48
Yea, I've got health insurance that I can't afford to use. JEB Jul 2014 #24
Why is the deficit falling good? We're democrats that falling deficit means cuts on the poor. craigmatic Jul 2014 #26
because the entire list consists of Republican objectives Doctor_J Jul 2014 #33
Yep. We should be spending on infrastructure and jobs. progressoid Jul 2014 #61
Because those in the defense industry think they got screwed royally IronLionZion Jul 2014 #63
I wish Dem's had treated Shrub like this . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2014 #29
Actually, we did ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #78
Imagine if they worked with President Obama toddwv Jul 2014 #31
And yet Republicans are expected to pick up seats in the upcoming election. JEFF9K Jul 2014 #38
I wish it were what . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2014 #41
Well said! JEFF9K Jul 2014 #42
Because all of these are Republican platform items Doctor_J Jul 2014 #45
And Yet - Wages Adjusted For Inflation - Are Still Flat Since Reagan - Some Progress cantbeserious Jul 2014 #40
The problem is that we never decisively turned our backs on Reaganomics. It's still operating nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #49
When Dems are in office, great things happen Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #43
and yet Reagan is the greatest president and Obama the worst in a recent poll ... ? napkinz Jul 2014 #54
They'd be carving a Republican President's face on Mt Rushmore. JoePhilly Jul 2014 #57
obama is still black iandhr Jul 2014 #67
Death of the middle class.. Fearless Jul 2014 #71
BENGHAZI!!! LynneSin Jul 2014 #72
LOL, very well done! And it's the truth. n/t R B Garr Jul 2014 #86
I tried to post the word Benghazi for each time Issa screams it LynneSin Jul 2014 #91
Ooh, Third Way talking points! woo me with science Jul 2014 #73
Don't forget record numbers of states overturning archaic marriage laws! Initech Jul 2014 #74
Republicans can't stand Good News... Mike Nelson Jul 2014 #77
Thanks, Obama... krispos42 Jul 2014 #79
Great thread. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #85
So now it's time for another Republican coup! santamargarita Jul 2014 #89
I get the feeling GOP would sue him if he gave them the moon. /sarcasm> n/t deafskeptic Jul 2014 #92
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