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55. I have no doubt benefitted

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:58 PM

Apr 2012

I am actually pretty well situated. I am better off than most white males I know. Did being white, hetero, and male open doors for me? I do not know, but it did not close them.

Do I feel guilty about it? Not in the least. I have worked hard to be where I am at, and work hard at it most every day to stay there. I support whom I can, I donate what I can.

When in a position to hire, I hired mostly women who have gone on to succeed professionally.

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On white male, hetro privilege. [View all] MadHound Apr 2012 OP

"The question is, what do you want me to do about it?" understand, recognize, acknowledge seabeyond Apr 2012 #1

I think that if I worked for the betterment of women, minorities, and the LGBT community, MadHound Apr 2012 #3

if you did "understand, recognize, and ackowledge" mzteris Apr 2012 #5

i dont see it. maybe you do, maybe you dont, i do not know. but no.... seabeyond Apr 2012 #7

Fighting for rights is easy? Then why is it called 'fighting'? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #62

understand what? hfojvt Apr 2012 #116

Here's one idea. Skinner Apr 2012 #2

I'm not mocking it, MadHound Apr 2012 #6

It doesn't only exist "for a lot of people". It exists, period. We all get to live in it. redqueen Apr 2012 #18

Well, first off, you assume a lot. MadHound Apr 2012 #23

So it's the fault of anyone who doesn't STFU about this stuff redqueen Apr 2012 #51

Did I say STFU? No. MadHound Apr 2012 #79

"Implied guilt" = bullshit. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #84

+1 HiPointDem Apr 2012 #107

I do mock it hfojvt Apr 2012 #121

You use your white male straight privilege mzteris Apr 2012 #4

I already stated that I do just that, MadHound Apr 2012 #8

If you don't want, or are unable, ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #29

Wow, more assumptions MadHound Apr 2012 #34

Aaaaaaaaaand . . . the difference IS mzteris Apr 2012 #38

So then what the fuck is it you want from him? SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #45

How about stop ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #49

Speaking of listening to what others are really saying MadHound Apr 2012 #67

Whatever ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #76

LOL! MadHound Apr 2012 #77

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #81

Well, let's take President Obama MadHound Apr 2012 #90

Stop trying to compare mzteris Apr 2012 #96

Here's the problem... TriMera Apr 2012 #9

Thank you, that is the most concise, coherent answer so far MadHound Apr 2012 #14

Individual circumstances vary. TriMera Apr 2012 #19

" my life has been far worse than many people who are African-American, gay, and/or female." redqueen Apr 2012 #20

guilt is nothing more than self-serving mental masterbation noiretextatique Apr 2012 #39

"if everyone personalizes the discussion." HiPointDem Apr 2012 #108

i agree noiretextatique Apr 2012 #111

thanks for hearing what i said and responding civilly. to more of that kind of discussion. cheers. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #112

no problem noiretextatique Apr 2012 #114

another reply I'd rec if I could varelse Apr 2012 #73

Thank you. n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #10

'So what should I do to expunge this collective guilt? ' bart95 Apr 2012 #11

You know what Bart? You've got a problem. Noone is asking you to walk around in sack cloth & ashes Ecumenist Apr 2012 #26

in order to feel american, if not human noiretextatique Apr 2012 #56

And that's a damn shame. I have blood family in France, Spain and Italy and I have heard the same Ecumenist Apr 2012 #57

sort of...i live in the bay area, california noiretextatique Apr 2012 #97

here's another idea: stop identifying with the white, male power structure noiretextatique Apr 2012 #40

"stop identifying with the white, male power structure" redqueen Apr 2012 #85

yep noiretextatique Apr 2012 #98

I don't think most minorities expect us to go around apologizing for being white. RDANGELO Apr 2012 #12

^^This^^ n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #13

+2. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #22

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #30

i don't...and i appreciate the contributions of white people noiretextatique Apr 2012 #41

It's not about guilt Marrah_G Apr 2012 #15

Well said. Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #16

And we are compelled to ask a series of questions LanternWaste Apr 2012 #17

Let me speak up as another white anglosaxon straight male DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #21

Well said. n/t DLevine Apr 2012 #24

load of baloney... msongs Apr 2012 #25

There aren't billions of white men in the United States. DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #28

You get it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #31

Some folk honestly don't know, they've never been exposed to other cultures enought to have uponit7771 Apr 2012 #32

I think that is very true Marrah_G Apr 2012 #35

i do not think white skin exempts anyone from classism noiretextatique Apr 2012 #43

Nor does he speak for me. And I grew up extremely poor. joshcryer Apr 2012 #60

Do what you know to be right, LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #27

nothing. doh1 Apr 2012 #33

The point is that they want you to shut up..... eek MD Apr 2012 #36

and who is this 1%? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #50

+1! uponit7771 Apr 2012 #53

Who are they? eek MD Apr 2012 #58

+1000 n/t ElboRuum Apr 2012 #70

you are preaching to the choir noiretextatique Apr 2012 #99

Thank you for being an ally.... eek MD Apr 2012 #100

really...who are we, as allies fighting against? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #103

Cain, bachmann, palin aside? eek MD Apr 2012 #104

talk to me when an all black or all female congressional committee noiretextatique Apr 2012 #113

............... eek MD Apr 2012 #122

i don't have a problem with discussing any ill in society noiretextatique Apr 2012 #123

"Yes, it is the truth that most white men vote republican." But they didn't always. For example, HiPointDem Apr 2012 #115

the southern strategy noiretextatique Apr 2012 #118

Yes; and the acceding to that strategy by the Democrats. Which includes the gradual withdrawl from HiPointDem Apr 2012 #124

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #78

Yes..... eek MD Apr 2012 #87

I think ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #105

Quote eek MD Apr 2012 #106

I think we are arriving at a meeting of the minds ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #125

Forget it man.. you can't possibly win. SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #37

i think even the OP recognizes, at least now he does noiretextatique Apr 2012 #54

+ 1,000! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #63

Who is "angry at white men"? I'm a white man, I'm not angry. joshcryer Apr 2012 #66

Get over yourself DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #75

I don't know you, but it sounds like you're doing what you can. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #42

No one asked you to be guilty about white privilege any more sudopod Apr 2012 #44

+1000 noiretextatique Apr 2012 #46

I think part of the "guilt" is the unwillingness to acknowledge the reality or the lack of knowledge uponit7771 Apr 2012 #52

Boom! Brilliant reply. +1 joshcryer Apr 2012 #61

+1 fishwax Apr 2012 #80

Brilliant. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #86

And arguing as he does, he points a finger at gay and non-white people, closeupready Apr 2012 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Apr 2012 #47

i am a black woman who grew up in a middle-class household noiretextatique Apr 2012 #48

Michelle Obama is an attorney and First Lady, is she shielded from racism? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #89

I have no doubt benefitted quaker bill Apr 2012 #55

"It did not close them" That's the key... YoungDemCA Apr 2012 #102

No one is saying "none of this matters." No one. joshcryer Apr 2012 #59

Not outright, but it IS implied a lot by a small, but very vocal minority. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #64

One may feel it is implied if they are too sensitive, I think. joshcryer Apr 2012 #65

Okay, scratch "implied", sometimes it's outright SAID. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #71

They said he should "be guilty" or that "none of this matters"? joshcryer Apr 2012 #72

i don't have white guilt, even if i do have white privilege CreekDog Apr 2012 #68

For what it is worth... ElboRuum Apr 2012 #69

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #74

Maybe you could join stormfront or vnnforum, good luck in your white priviledge journey!! Obamacare Apr 2012 #83

Wow, you simply don't do nuance, do you? MadHound Apr 2012 #91

unwarranted & not funny. namecalling & personal attack. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #110

Well since I personally never attack anyone based on superficialities such lunatica Apr 2012 #88

Another one who makes a huge leap, MadHound Apr 2012 #92

Yes, we want you to give part of your paycheck to ecstatic Apr 2012 #93

"The blah people?" MadHound Apr 2012 #94

Santorum coined the term ecstatic Apr 2012 #95

As a white straight male myself, here's what you (really, WE) can do.... YoungDemCA Apr 2012 #101

very well said- Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #120

The greatest of good deeds go unnoticed. stlsaxman Apr 2012 #109

I hear you. But just imagine how worse off you would've been if you'd been female, black, Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #117

stop focusing on yourself- the "guilt" you feel, Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #119

I'm suddenly curious about how many women agree with this kind of sentiment. redqueen Apr 2012 #126

i asked my friend kate about this noiretextatique Apr 2012 #127

Seems to me that most women would be more likely to get it... redqueen Apr 2012 #131

How about if you just leave me the fark alone. closeupready Apr 2012 #128

And you poor baby, tired of helping those less advantaged than you. closeupready Apr 2012 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2012 #130

you don't represent all men. Whisp Apr 2012 #133

Brah...seems you are venting, and attacking the messengers. Zorra Apr 2012 #134