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Caretha

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85. I haven't read

Mon Jul 21, 2014, 08:39 AM

Jul 2014

the complete article by Robert Parry, but became curious about his credentials after several posters maligned his reputation and hurled every insult they could think of at him.

So if anyone else is reading this thread and wondering the same thing I was, here is a wiki link to this man's past journalist history. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Parry_%28journalist%29) Mighty damn impressive!

That is journalism we are sorely lacking in the US, and what has led us down the path to perdition many many times in our past and recent past.

Now I'm also curious about the posters here in this thread, who have done lick spittle in their personal lives even close to what Robert Parry has accomplished, and what their real agenda is and why they don't want anyone to read this journalist's views or articles.

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Game Changer (if true): What Did US Spy Satellites See in Ukraine? [View all] Karmadillo Jul 2014 OP

Robert Parry has been a good reporter on the Democratic Side... KoKo Jul 2014 #1

Thanks for the link. That, too, is an excellent article. The power Karmadillo Jul 2014 #4

Two excellent journalists both of whom have been right far more often than the MSM sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #6

Agree. Over at conservativecrackpots.com they really hate Parry and Escobar. nt bananas Jul 2014 #84

Well what are they going to do about the teenager and the farmer who say they saw the missiles being kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #152

We know exactly what happened from the satellites. roamer65 Jul 2014 #2

Doubtful that even the best military satellites have the resolution ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #3

Much less scattered beer bottles alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #5

Everything you wanted to know about the spy satellites Karmadillo Jul 2014 #8

10 cm (4-inches) is probably the maximum for any existing - in ideal conditions. ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #10

They absolutely have that ability. But there is a serious flaw in the OP article. stevenleser Jul 2014 #11

Yes and no ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #18

Well , let me be clear, I was in AF Space Command and had friends who dealt with those satellites. stevenleser Jul 2014 #22

Even if they can identify the uniforms, they can't identify them as definitively Ukrainian Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #53

Even more to your point, nothing is to say the rebels didn't steal and are using Ukrainian uniforms. stevenleser Jul 2014 #91

Parry is in the tank for Putin? grasswire Jul 2014 #128

Exactly n2doc Jul 2014 #134

Well put. I have no idea what ignored said above you but... stevenleser Jul 2014 #154

Something we found out with the disappearance of earlier Malaysia Air flight mainer Jul 2014 #157

There is actually a law of optics that talks about the relationship between resolution and viewing stevenleser Jul 2014 #159

"we picked up the imagery of this launch" - Kerry bananas Jul 2014 #162

No, you completely misunderstand what I said and the technology. stevenleser Jul 2014 #170

They can read license plates. MADem Jul 2014 #65

An old myth ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #161

OK, sure, if you say so! MADem Jul 2014 #163

It may be from the limits of resolution possible with light muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #165

KH-11 mirror is about the same size as Hubble ThoughtCriminal Jul 2014 #168

Street level google is almost that good. I used to have an atlas of China made by CIA satellite pix. freshwest Feb 2015 #175

. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #7

If that were true... Takket Jul 2014 #9

Maybe they're not screaming because they don't know. KoKo's Escobar article Karmadillo Jul 2014 #13

So they're utter and complete morons jeff47 Jul 2014 #15

I don't think the difficulty lies in asking "Who fired the missile?" The Karmadillo Jul 2014 #17

So they are morons who can't say "Not me?" jeff47 Jul 2014 #23

If I'm not mistaken, both Russia and the separatists have denied firing the missile. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #35

Which is why I didn't list any denials. jeff47 Jul 2014 #38

These are all good points JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #156

Escobar is telling everyone to believe geek tragedy Jul 2014 #19

um, hardly "game-changing" renegade000 Jul 2014 #12

Um, bullshit. jeff47 Jul 2014 #14

I love how everyone on DU has suddenly become an expert on spy satellite imagery. former9thward Jul 2014 #141

As opposed to a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who says jeff47 Jul 2014 #158

A person has to be in the tank for Putin geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16

Consortium News lost all credibility after Syria. But DU's diehards will keep searching f/this crap KittyWampus Jul 2014 #20

Did the US media lose all credibility after Iraq? Karmadillo Jul 2014 #21

Judith Milller did, and Parry is even less credible geek tragedy Jul 2014 #24

LOL. Just Judith Miller? Karmadillo Jul 2014 #29

Maybe Parry's source is Curveball. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #31

Just in case anyone reading this believes you to be a credible source, Karmadillo Jul 2014 #40

Lambert lifted his analysis geek tragedy Jul 2014 #44

A 0.0% Nazi content rule? As a fervent support of Ukraine's government, Karmadillo Jul 2014 #46

There are a small number of fascists in Ukraine's government. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #47

That must be a record for the abandonment of the 0.0% Nazi rule. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #51

I don't cite to Svoboda to back up my arguments. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #54

Sound reasoning from start to finish. Kudos. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #57

There are also fascists in Russia's government. Why do you always gloss over that point? nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #92

shame on you grasswire Jul 2014 #130

Tip: When your defense is "This reporter isn't as bad as Judith Miller" jeff47 Jul 2014 #34

The OP had a thread hidden earlier for geek tragedy Jul 2014 #37

a WORTHLESS HACK? grasswire Jul 2014 #132

Yes, a worthless sellout of a hack who is so obviously geek tragedy Jul 2014 #166

Calling Robert Parry ''a worthless hack'' shows what you know. Octafish Jul 2014 #167

Tip: That's not my defense. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #41

Which is why you keep bringing up Iraq....Oh wait, that makes no sense. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #42

See post 29 and actually read post 29 and you will have a clearer Karmadillo Jul 2014 #45

No, I got the point. Your claim is your favored media is not as awful as jeff47 Jul 2014 #48

You obviously didn't get the point. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #50

The fact that your argument has massive holes in it jeff47 Jul 2014 #52

I will try to be better and use you as a model, in fact. You nailed it, except Karmadillo Jul 2014 #56

Keep spinning jeff47 Jul 2014 #58

When ANY supposed news source becomes the equivalent of Baghdad Bob they lose credibility. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #25

Team Putin is standing by their man. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #26

They did after Syria, too. Weird. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #27

Putin, Assad , Gaddafhi. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #28

Strange how Isis, the group we funded to fight Assad betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #136

Sarah Palin stands by her man, thus, Putin and Palin in 2016! freshwest Jul 2014 #43

I am sick to death of the "Team Putin" phrase. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #81

How then would you describe the phenomenon geek tragedy Jul 2014 #94

I would say it is mostly imagined. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jul 2014 #104

Nice Nazi website. Do you realize what it says geek tragedy Jul 2014 #110

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #112

You are advocating that people read a NAZI, white supremacist geek tragedy Jul 2014 #114

You don't get to tell people to 'grow up' when you're adovcating the use of anti-semitic sites muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #117

Read my other post, and quit the fucking pile-on. TM99 Jul 2014 #120

You haven't self-deleted your link to the anti-semitic site yet muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #122

Sorry, I have never had to self-delete a post. TM99 Jul 2014 #124

Thank you (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #126

Jury results (jury says Nazi websites ok to use) geek tragedy Jul 2014 #113

Relax and take a deep breath. TM99 Jul 2014 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jul 2014 #116

For pity's sake, will you fucking chill. TM99 Jul 2014 #119

no, I won't 'chill' at the idea of Nazi propaganda being mainstreamed here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #121

Hersh is highly respected, and his writings are hardly rumor- TM99 Jul 2014 #125

Hersh, Parry... grasswire Jul 2014 #135

When people claim a news source has lost all credibility... MattSh Jul 2014 #118

Apparently everyone in Ukraine is drunk. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #30

Buk fired from rebel territory. moondust Jul 2014 #32

Hey, Robert Parry knows a guy who knows a guy geek tragedy Jul 2014 #33

What the hell is wrong with you? itsrobert Jul 2014 #49

*gulp* moondust Jul 2014 #55

This is one of the big problems with the Executive branch's embrace of lying MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #62

If we accept basic physical science and empirical evidence we do know they're telling the truth. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #66

But they haven't supplied any physical science and empirical evidence. MattSh Jul 2014 #123

Other countries moondust Jul 2014 #67

Except Obama is far from the only one geek tragedy Jul 2014 #68

I tend to think they did. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #70

The rebels bragging about it on their geek tragedy Jul 2014 #71

what's your source for the bragging MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #72

How have you managed to miss this? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #74

Strobe Talbot, Putin Apologist MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #75

Twitchy? Interesting to see where you get geek tragedy Jul 2014 #77

So is Strobe Talbot is a Putin apologist MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #78

A separatist-run website did boast of the attack geek tragedy Jul 2014 #79

Strobe Talbot isn't sure of your "facts" MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #80

ITAR-TASS also had the same news muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #82

That story doesn't credit the separatists as the source MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #86

Things were 'murky' about which separatist wrote geek tragedy Jul 2014 #95

That's clearly not what Talbot wrote MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #102

"This thing" is ambiguous. Many facts have geek tragedy Jul 2014 #107

Exactly - it corroborates what the web page said, from a different source muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #97

Talbot clearly said responsibility for the downing was murky MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #103

He CLEARLY did NOT talk about responsibility muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #105

"This thing is as murky as it is horrendous. But answer & blame will emerge." MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #131

He said no such thing, you only wish he did. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #111

Uh... No. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #133

It's clear someone in rebel territory posted geek tragedy Jul 2014 #164

Your No.97 Pretty Well Nailed It, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #169

Those images are highly classified and compartmentalized Peregrine Jul 2014 #36

.... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #39

"if True" Indeed DallasNE Jul 2014 #59

Well, my neighbor's grandson's wife's hairdresser, who's normally a reliable source... ColesCountyDem Jul 2014 #60

I have no way of knowing for sure what happened either, but napi21 Jul 2014 #61

I guess we all place our bets when we post the stupid eh? snooper2 Jul 2014 #63

Well, at least there is transparency with the RECS zappaman Jul 2014 #64

Nope, it's the group who always seem geek tragedy Jul 2014 #69

Flags in Amsterdam! Amonester Jul 2014 #73

I would honestly be surprised if even the most advanced satellites could resolve beer bottles. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #76

Mr. Parry,Sir, Has Now Officially Given Up ANY Pretense Of Being A Journalist The Magistrate Jul 2014 #83

Sorcha Faal!... SidDithers Jul 2014 #93

Strawman Alert! Caretha Jul 2014 #96

If you're not familiar with Sorcha Faal, you really should check her out... SidDithers Jul 2014 #99

Really Sid Caretha Jul 2014 #101

. stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #145

Damn, that needs a copyright suit from South Park: muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #98

Sorcha Faal can always be counted on to bring the Crazy... SidDithers Jul 2014 #100

I haven't read Caretha Jul 2014 #85

Thanks...Some who criticize him know his background KoKo Jul 2014 #90

allegiance to Dear Leader apparently trumps all. grasswire Jul 2014 #137

they failed in hiding your post 5 / 2 stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #146

thanks grasswire Jul 2014 #147

Message Sent. stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #149

Just in case! stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #148

Not so much "ignorant" Caretha Jul 2014 #150

yes, I was being generous. nt grasswire Jul 2014 #155

he was a major Iran-Contra investigator and is a DAMN straight arrow MisterP Feb 2015 #176

How many of us can build a rocket? sofa king Jul 2014 #87

Please. US satellites, which can see ticks on a dog, never saw MH370, never saw MH17, never saw.... WinkyDink Jul 2014 #88

It helps if you understand the technology. It's good, but it isn't magical. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #106

It's better than "good." WinkyDink Jul 2014 #173

No question. I've seen it with my own eyes. Albeit the version from 23 years ago. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #174

And if my Aunt had balls, she'd be my Uncle... SidDithers Jul 2014 #89

Jesus Fucking Christ redqueen Jul 2014 #108

I would have to say, based on neo-con domination of our foreign nilesobek Jul 2014 #109

"What I�ve been told by one source..." MineralMan Jul 2014 #127

ignorant grasswire Jul 2014 #139

I rarely dream of sources. More often, I dream MineralMan Jul 2014 #140

that explains a lot, and it's icky. nt grasswire Jul 2014 #142

You should start your own OP, I guess. MineralMan Jul 2014 #143

Apparently he is somebody we are supposed to believe no matter what treestar Jul 2014 #172

You mean this might be another neocon wargasm, and the conservadems are pandering to them again? n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #129

Who left the asylum door unlocked this time? conservaphobe Jul 2014 #144

http://enenews.com/ stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #151

LOL conservaphobe Jul 2014 #153

k/r good read 840high Jul 2014 #160

Sure, if you like fiction. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #171