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78. Minnesota Nice isn't actually nice

Reply to betsuni (Reply #68)

Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:56 AM

Jul 2014

its more like passive aggressive where they smile at you while insulting you.

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This Woman Has Been Confronting Her Catcallers � And Secretly Filming Their Reactions [View all] Agschmid Jul 2014 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #1

+1 million Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #44

Too much Minnesota Nice? betsuni Jul 2014 #68

Minnesota Nice isn't actually nice IronLionZion Jul 2014 #78

Well, that explains my Midwestern relatives betsuni Jul 2014 #80

I would have said she should have slapped him. Jamastiene Jul 2014 #152

exactly Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #165

Good for her PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #2

Good for her ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #3

Not really challenging at all. Agschmid Jul 2014 #5

I have seen thousands of beautiful women in my life.. awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #59

I think the best punishment for this man is to show this video Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #4

I never understood why these idiots think they are going to get anywhere with this kind of behavior. Kali Jul 2014 #6

It's not about getting dates. It's about exercising and reinforcing dominance. redqueen Jul 2014 #7

maybe, but Kali Jul 2014 #9

And that is part of it. redqueen Jul 2014 #10

exactly....n/t prairierose Jul 2014 #13

True. They should check their privilege. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #45

for that brief moment, they claim ownership. why they do it and feel empowered. why they do not do seabeyond Jul 2014 #82

Some women apparently don't mind being treated with contempt and disrespect. redqueen Jul 2014 #86

lol. ya. just read that one. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #91

Exactly. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #12

yeppers. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #17

because if he show disrespect to the man... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #61

That's funny, because my wife was called out many times when we were walking together NickB79 Jul 2014 #130

Sorry that happened to you and your wife. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #150

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #60

+2000 yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #144

I used to know a guy who had one pick-up line. Archae Jul 2014 #16

Maybe concreteblue Jul 2014 #18

Exactly Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #32

One afternoon many years ago, as I was walking to the store in a small tblue37 Jul 2014 #22

It's not about "getting somewhere." It's about establishing dominance. Brickbat Jul 2014 #39

Well, yes - Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #75

"Why?" Because it works. "Has there ever been a woman...?" Yes. ieoeja Jul 2014 #107

They don't think they're getting anywhere with the woman. Iggo Jul 2014 #127

K&R nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #8

Unreal... trumad Jul 2014 #11

yes, it is... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #62

That's the most accurate post on this thread! llmart Jul 2014 #168

K & R L0oniX Jul 2014 #14

Every Day That I Go Out in Public Leith Jul 2014 #15

Touching is always WAYYYYY out of line, and colorado_ufo Jul 2014 #19

"The day will come when these will end, even if you take really good care of yourself." Kali Jul 2014 #25

Wtf, mate? Agschmid Jul 2014 #30

Ew. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #98

I feel the same way PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #27

Me, too. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #46

Here are comments from 2 different men that pretty much embody an tblue37 Jul 2014 #20

I wonder how men would feel if women made catcalls and unwanted advances towards them. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #47

they'd be fine with it, as long as she passed their test of "hitability" Skittles Jul 2014 #50

Sometimes when I'm with my sister betsuni Jul 2014 #67

That was on an episode of sex and the city IronLionZion Jul 2014 #81

Honest answer from a male who welcomes attention from women: IronLionZion Jul 2014 #89

As long as they're young and cute. So typical. redqueen Jul 2014 #92

It is typically based on attraction IronLionZion Jul 2014 #93

The thing is, you're ignoring reality redqueen Jul 2014 #95

OK IronLionZion Jul 2014 #100

It isn't polite. Or if it ever is, it is a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the time. redqueen Jul 2014 #104

unless heaven05 Jul 2014 #21

im the same way -i say hi and that's it. but im sure i wont be long untill people leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #24

devil's advocate here - if someone tells you how pretty you are to them leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #23

More disrespect for women from you. No surprise. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #26

here's a card for you leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #31

Yes. Just like a woman can get an abortion geek tragedy Jul 2014 #40

I don't really see anything wrong with that... Agschmid Jul 2014 #42

Certain persons in this thread have explicitly geek tragedy Jul 2014 #43

as you know i dont agree it's my baby too but that's different thread. why are you trying to start leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #72

Legally you are absolutely wrong geek tragedy Jul 2014 #77

Why bring it up here? Because it is illustrative, that's why. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #87

well it's not polite to hijack a thread and im not gonna play. that is how i feel about it and leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #97

it is not polite to give unsolicited opinions about strangers on the street either, but not only do seabeyond Jul 2014 #99

the deal with and move on was directed to the any poster who didnt like m view on the thread leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #102

rating an unknown womans attractiveness and letting her know she passes muster is neither innocuous seabeyond Jul 2014 #106

nope, we dont live on our own little islands and because of that we pass people all the time leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #113

"and that woman MUST accept.? did i say that?" not only have you said it each post, you reiterate it seabeyond Jul 2014 #124

My recommendation is to ignore this DUer. Dawgs Jul 2014 #133

ROFL Scout Jul 2014 #139

Ha. Thanks for the concern, but I'm fine. Dawgs Jul 2014 #143

if you say so Scout Jul 2014 #145

So even if she wants an abortion, you should be able to *force her* to not get one? nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #149

as in it's my baby too leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #153

On an emotional level, I understand that. But in practical terms, you can't legally force her nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #166

You don't get it, do you. Quantess Jul 2014 #29

no, i get it catcalls and vulgar comments are unacceptable, leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #34

So, you are walking down the street and you have a presentation you have to give and you are going Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #65

i know people have stuff going on that doesnt include what anyone thinks about them leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #71

Would you ever think to make the same comment to a man walking down the stree you had never met? Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #76

"Would you ever think to make the same comment to a man walking down the street you had never met?" redqueen Jul 2014 #105

Bingo. Ineeda Jul 2014 #110

why are you so insistent on derailing this thread over your straw man? CreekDog Jul 2014 #69

Um, I'm not going to "thank" you for rating my looks. noamnety Jul 2014 #83

Someone here said that thanking the harasser is a sign of high self esteem and empowerment. redqueen Jul 2014 #88

The only thing I can think of that would be even more empowering noamnety Jul 2014 #94

Yep. They simply refuse to listen. redqueen Jul 2014 #96

You really don't see why a total stranger coming up to a woman to tell her "You're pretty" catbyte Jul 2014 #108

well im not a woman but i have been complimented by them and it's never creeped me out leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #115

That's probably because you never had to wonder if a sexual assault might be coming catbyte Jul 2014 #116

youre correct but in what im talking about there wouldnt be any abuse leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #118

There's no bright line between "rude" and "polite" when it comes to unwanted attention. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #148

A polite smile and a little nod as you pass is sufficient. proReality Jul 2014 #33

agreed leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #35

Because that isn't what happens. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #37

youre correct but that isnt what i saw on the video. i can go watch it again but what leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #73

Well, then you only watched the first 5 seconds. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #125

That's not what street harassment is. Brickbat Jul 2014 #41

Please. The men that do this aren't just giving a nice compliment. NYC Liberal Jul 2014 #52

Because you have no right to grab attention away from introspective dialogue. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #57

Because it requires a greater Harmony Blue Jul 2014 #64

you are missing what so many refuse to recognize. it is said bluntly, clearly and you refuse, seabeyond Jul 2014 #84

I don't think Devil's Advocacy responds to a premise not presented in the original argument LanternWaste Jul 2014 #122

cuz i don't give a shit what they think ... why should i thank them? n/t Scout Jul 2014 #140

it's polite that's what civilized societies do or dont say anything at all leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #141

"dont [sic] say anything at all" Scout Jul 2014 #142

It's pathetic that this doesn't have triple digit recs and twice as many views. Soylent Brice Jul 2014 #28

If I ever did something like that, I'd try to call the funeral director 'cause I know... BlueJazz Jul 2014 #36

I have said irisblue Jul 2014 #38

Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #48

I think a couple of squirts of pepper spray PumpkinAle Jul 2014 #49

I have way more important things to worry about than....... WillowTree Jul 2014 #51

What if you had to deal with catcalls virtually every other day? Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #54

Not one bit. WillowTree Jul 2014 #55

I imagine there are some women that don't get upset about breaking a nail? n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #58

Jesus!! It was a joke. Give the outrage a rest why doncha. WillowTree Jul 2014 #146

I'm not outraged. I didn't know you were joking. I was just checking to see if you could in any way Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #151

I used to get catcalls, gross noises, etc. literally every single day Quantess Jul 2014 #74

Really. I was a very attractive young woman. I was also a writer and a musician. A lot of my Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #66

"Unsolicited compliment" Sparkly Jul 2014 #85

Not only is it infuriating, it's also scary & creepy. catbyte Jul 2014 #114

She went off on someone who said, almost under his breath....... WillowTree Jul 2014 #147

IKR? You can't even objectify women anymore without some uppity feminist type making you redqueen Jul 2014 #160

+1. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #161

!! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #164

It's not difficult at all when we practice civility and engage in being polite towards others. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #162

some women need that cat call to recognize their worth as a human being. many women do not. seabeyond Jul 2014 #90

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #53

No problem! Agschmid Jul 2014 #56

K&R... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #63

Well said. Agschmid Jul 2014 #70

Exactly. klook Jul 2014 #132

I cannot kick this thread high enough or recommend it enough. Heidi Jul 2014 #79

Its eye opening sometimes... Agschmid Jul 2014 #134

I've seen and experienced a LOT of men who talk to women with disrespect they would NEVER dare show DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #101

K&R myrna minx Jul 2014 #103

Hmm davidthegnome Jul 2014 #109

do not ever do it at work. she is stuck there with you. you make her uncomfortable with your seabeyond Jul 2014 #112

What's your purpose? IronLionZion Jul 2014 #117

That would be the intent, yes. davidthegnome Jul 2014 #126

In that case, stick with online IronLionZion Jul 2014 #138

My boyfriend PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #169

I'll second sea's opinion. redqueen Jul 2014 #119

Why do you have to tell them that? treestar Jul 2014 #167

Good for her! JDPriestly Jul 2014 #111

This x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 redqueen Jul 2014 #121

Precisely! I had written much more about the harassment of my two teenaged daughters JDPriestly Jul 2014 #128

I hear you about the stories. I have two teen girls myself. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #135

A Personal Story Burma Jones Jul 2014 #120

Yes, you get it! redqueen Jul 2014 #123

Good for her! Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #129

I'll tell you what's really tacky and sad...... llmart Jul 2014 #170

Kicking! arcane1 Jul 2014 #131

KNR. DirkGently Jul 2014 #136

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #137

The amazing thing is how much this actually works for some guys. cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #154

so, offending 50 women to get one fuck. who the fuck cares? really. who cares? they still offend seabeyond Jul 2014 #155

I agree with you, not sure why you're so worked up. cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #156

no more worked up than you or anyone else. why project an emotion you are totally clueless seabeyond Jul 2014 #157

Yeah, I'm trying to have a discussion about this subject and why it happens... cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #158

i am yelling? ya,, i get the "irrational" was simply passive aggressive to get in a jab. seabeyond Jul 2014 #159

Why are you portraying seabeyond as upset and irrational? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #163