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joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
21. Yes, the tea party has something like 1% too.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jul 2014

That doesn't mean the Obama administration is full of teabaggers.

They were able to get into the cabinet because dozens of Party of Regions members left to go live in Russia (they were all a bunch of criminals) and the Communist Party completely abstained. If it wasn't for that they would not have even been in the government. The Party of Regions and Communist Party purposefully abstained (rather than voting down) their cabinet appointment because they need this as a talking point.

It's largely irrelevant.

Maidan was a grassroots, largely civilian, largely anti-violent protest movement. The oligarchs in power tried to shut it down by passing an anti-protest law drafted in Moscow. Nuland, Powers, they hopped on board literally after that law was passed, because any analyst worth their salt knew that once you do that, you fall. Mubarak is a classic example of this. So, oh, far be it for the US to send support for a movement that is in our interests. A movement that had been in the streets throughout the winter for months protesting against the oligarchs in power.

It's just mind boggling how easily you can dismiss the movement of those protesters. As if Nuland or Powers has the magic puppet mind wave devices to totally control the entire movement.

I don't have to believe a damn thing out of Kiev or DC. I can make up my mind with the evidence that social media has provided. I can figure out what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. I can sift through lies and truth. It is unquestionable that the rebels shot off a Buk and downed MH17. Anyone telling me to "wait for evidence" is just white washing. Just like on 9/11, I saw the plane hit the building, I didn't have to wait for an investigation to tell me what happened.

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I await your responses... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #1
Bookmarking for later Jack Union Scribe Jul 2014 #2
ditto dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4
Thanks. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #28
Some fact, some fiction, some acknowledgement that Putin isn't a prince, but much of TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #3
I just want to know what our game plan is for getting involved in the mess in Ukraine. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #6
I don't think we are going to get further involved militarily, beyond non-lethal aid, TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #7
Putin is a prince! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #16
I'm not sure we should have a dog in this fight? kentuck Jul 2014 #5
Thank for the most sensible and in-depth analysis I've seen on this situation, by far. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #8
Merci! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #19
It's nuance inter-spread with canned talking points. joshcryer Jul 2014 #9
The Kiev government includes a fascist party. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #17
Yes, the tea party has something like 1% too. joshcryer Jul 2014 #21
"Maidan was" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #22
Poroshenko is the head of the government. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23
"new elections after the terrorist crisis is over" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #24
If Cliven Bundey pulled what Igor is pulling... joshcryer Jul 2014 #25
Quite possibly. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #26
I'm not a supporter of Putin, I'm not a supporter of the Kiev regime Dems to Win Jul 2014 #10
I'm sure we'll get to sell arms to somebody. JEB Jul 2014 #11
kick kentuck Jul 2014 #12
Thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #18
I always get annoyed when the MIghty Wurlitzer spins up one of these political witch hunts. bemildred Jul 2014 #13
I'm reminded of the Wolfowitz doctrine, PNAC and The Grand Chessboard jakeXT Jul 2014 #14
This is excellent - TBF Jul 2014 #15
Of course I don't mind, thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #20
What I've said all along...neither side are "good guys",... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #27
And now the plot turns. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #29
Month later: Sadly. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #30
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