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joshcryer

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23. Poroshenko is the head of the government.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jul 2014

And Poroshenko has called for new elections after the terrorist crisis is over. So the trajectory for Ukraine's government is to have a fully elected parliament and cabinet removing any remnants of the intrim government from power. Point of fact, Poroshenko already removed Yatsenyuk's right sector military cabinet because they failed to achieve results (probably because a couple of right sector activists don't have military experience).

I don't think Ukraine has a choice whether or not to combat the separatists. The US did not have a choice when it came to our Civil War. Ukraine allowed Crimea to be annexed in the heat of the crisis but as they formed their new government they saw that, in fact, the separatists are without any muscle, it's all a fascade, they don't have popular support, and any assistance they have from Russia is on the decline thanks to the terrorist act shooting down a plane.

As far as whether or not the US should support the elected Ukraine President and the remnants of the elected parliament? Why shouldn't the US support it? The US should support it and call for new parliament elections to fill the space left by fleeing oligarchs in the Party of Regions and perhaps replacements for the Communists who did not hold their duty and suspiciously allowed right sector fascists to get on the cabinet even though they had the votes to prevent it.

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I await your responses... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #1
Bookmarking for later Jack Union Scribe Jul 2014 #2
ditto dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4
Thanks. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #28
Some fact, some fiction, some acknowledgement that Putin isn't a prince, but much of TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #3
I just want to know what our game plan is for getting involved in the mess in Ukraine. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #6
I don't think we are going to get further involved militarily, beyond non-lethal aid, TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #7
Putin is a prince! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #16
I'm not sure we should have a dog in this fight? kentuck Jul 2014 #5
Thank for the most sensible and in-depth analysis I've seen on this situation, by far. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #8
Merci! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #19
It's nuance inter-spread with canned talking points. joshcryer Jul 2014 #9
The Kiev government includes a fascist party. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #17
Yes, the tea party has something like 1% too. joshcryer Jul 2014 #21
"Maidan was" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #22
Poroshenko is the head of the government. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23
"new elections after the terrorist crisis is over" JackRiddler Jul 2014 #24
If Cliven Bundey pulled what Igor is pulling... joshcryer Jul 2014 #25
Quite possibly. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #26
I'm not a supporter of Putin, I'm not a supporter of the Kiev regime Dems to Win Jul 2014 #10
I'm sure we'll get to sell arms to somebody. JEB Jul 2014 #11
kick kentuck Jul 2014 #12
Thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #18
I always get annoyed when the MIghty Wurlitzer spins up one of these political witch hunts. bemildred Jul 2014 #13
I'm reminded of the Wolfowitz doctrine, PNAC and The Grand Chessboard jakeXT Jul 2014 #14
This is excellent - TBF Jul 2014 #15
Of course I don't mind, thank you. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #20
What I've said all along...neither side are "good guys",... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #27
And now the plot turns. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #29
Month later: Sadly. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #30
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