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Zorra

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472. OK, it's true, people can survive without being sexually intimate with another person.

Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:32 PM

Jul 2014

But I don't believe that is generally a desirable state of being for most people, and it does appear that most people seek sexual intimacy with another human being. Pretty much every one I've ever known has, or does, except for this one man I know who appears to be asexual, and (purportedly) some priests. And judging from the ever increasing population of the planet, well, ya know...

It's also true that some people are not interested in having sex with anyone they are not "in love" with, or at least believe they are "in love" with. And some people can love, or "be in love with", more than one person at the same time.

My partner told me it was not necessarily the sex, but the intimate caring, loving touch of another human being, that she had missed the most in the years of her "enforced" celibacy.

And I agree, clear, honest communication, and in particular, clear and honest behavior, and being on the same page, is very important, at least in any intimate relationship I want to be a part of. Anything else very often harms someone in some way.

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Man sends wife spreadsheet detailing the times she denied him sex for the last month [View all] davidn3600 Jul 2014 OP

Do you have a comment? DURHAM D Jul 2014 #1

oh no. it belongs right here. Actually, it belongs on reddit but, you know ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #40

There is a clear pattern. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #54

yes. beyond the stupid OP, yes. a clear pattern. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #58

mos def. An agenda has been noticed and a pattern established. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #66

Indeed there is. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #67

I have a feeling this marriage is soon to be over. I can already see many other issues involved. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #169

He needs to Turbineguy Jul 2014 #2

I was gonna say what a lousy looking spreadsheet he produces! CTyankee Jul 2014 #106

Not to mention the one Aerows Jul 2014 #421

Yep!!! No A+ for him! RKP5637 Jul 2014 #251

That's what I was thinking; maybe that explains the REAL source of his problem? InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #256

Lawyer. Iggo Jul 2014 #3

Yeh, no sense wasting any time and and life experience Zorra Jul 2014 #102

+10 Duppers Jul 2014 #116

Never use a spreadsheet when a simple table will suffice. nt NCjack Jul 2014 #4

Yes - some people LiberalElite Jul 2014 #148

I would've preferred to use a pie chart. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #302

Mmmm. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #321

Ohhh....you guys. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #332

What can I say? I like pie. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #334

I prefer cake, personally. opiate69 Jul 2014 #522

That's not, technically, 100% true. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #525

Pics or it didn't happen! opiate69 Jul 2014 #532

Oh, fine. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #533

lmao! opiate69 Jul 2014 #534

!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #535

I think that's what Jessica Lange said to Jack Nicholson once... Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #549

Well that relationship is likely done... Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #6

lololol DustyJoe Jul 2014 #7

What a creep. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8

welllll ...... EDITED DustyJoe Jul 2014 #10

I'm gonna guess he wasn't very much into geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11

You mean at least he wasn't just raping her? Really? redqueen Jul 2014 #14

Yeah, I guess we're supposed to give him credit for not being a rapist BainsBane Jul 2014 #348

At least he wasn't raping her?! Wow, that is a fucked up comment. n/t demmiblue Jul 2014 #15

ha. you give guys a pat for NOT raping. got it. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #21

I do hope you have merely made a poor choice of words CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #30

of course she laughed. you're a huge joke. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #45

okay DustyJoe Jul 2014 #56

it was a bad one liner. your wife was right, you deserved. and seabeyond Jul 2014 #57

ok, thanks for the clarification. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #63

Added by suggestion DustyJoe Jul 2014 #75

How do you know any of that about him? Do you know him personally or are you just uppityperson Jul 2014 #144

"complying with the denials" NCTraveler Jul 2014 #418

Detailing his life Harmony Blue Jul 2014 #347

Damn poor guy bigdarryl Jul 2014 #9

He should have had an adult conversation. tammywammy Jul 2014 #13

No, he shouldn't have married her unless he knew what he was getting into. randome Jul 2014 #18

I rather have to agree with this. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #31

You don't think that desire and libido fluctuate over time? PassingFair Jul 2014 #152

At 26 years old? Yieks! yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #173

At 26 years old my libido was completely killed. It's still dead. I'm 34. Until I get a problem fixe MillennialDem Jul 2014 #327

She might just have been tired all the time. tblue37 Jul 2014 #363

He might just be bad at it or doesn't care about her pleasure. alarimer Jul 2014 #388

Sure I do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #232

There could be so much more to it. redqueen Jul 2014 #43

Very true. As much as things have changed, Ilsa Jul 2014 #158

Back in the day a friend of mine confided almost tearfully she thought she was becoming "frigid" Hekate Jul 2014 #258

Agreed Takket Jul 2014 #51

....or hoping to get in to. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2014 #76

Agree. blueamy66 Jul 2014 #89

You could say the same for her, although neither may have known how they'd feel later. n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #104

I wonder if they were graduates of one of these "abstinence only" approaches. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #465

I'm sure his wife was much more active earlier on. eom tarheelsunc Jul 2014 #546

If his wife is more interested in reruns of Friends Jacoby365 Jul 2014 #91

Really. Who watches Friends any more? Geeze. randome Jul 2014 #108

I know. Really! n/t Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #290

You're right. This guy has no hope if her excuse is she would rather watch Friends. Jenoch Jul 2014 #125

well, if his wife prefers reruns of Friends, maybe he is no star in the bedroom either... CTyankee Jul 2014 #196

maybe it was an episode she never saw jberryhill Jul 2014 #311

Yeah, that part is pretty damning. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #335

At least it's not "Mad About You." NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #340

Everybody loves Raymond Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #341

But does Everybody KNOW Raymond in the Biblical sense? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #345

yeah, good point. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #371

I never watched it either, but I can totally hear her saying that. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #378

If, as I suggest above, she is simply exhausted, she just might need some mindless tblue37 Jul 2014 #368

Perhaps the fault does not really rest with the wife? avebury Jul 2014 #490

He could have told her that he's dissatisfied and wants more sex in their relationship. DetlefK Jul 2014 #12

He can only communicate via Excel. It's a rare disorder he picked up from a brothel in Richmond. randome Jul 2014 #25

! redqueen Jul 2014 #29

Sort of borrowed from something Grant Morrison once wrote. randome Jul 2014 #69

Actually as I am thinking about it, they both deserve each other yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #175

You just won the internet tonight. :) Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #305

I don't agree. blueamy66 Jul 2014 #90

I wonder what the husband's excuses look like Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #141

Do you think more then 3 times a month is a whim or unreasonable? yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #176

I think the spreadsheet, if real, shows that he seems to think she should have sex even when she's Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #366

Or it reveals he wishes she were in the mood more than three times a month... Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #379

If this thing is real, I agree it's doomed Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #401

yeah I dont think qazplm Jul 2014 #227

You have spread your personal life all over DU HangOnKids Jul 2014 #552

Isn't this spreadsheet an almost daily account of asking for more sex in their relationship? hughee99 Jul 2014 #481

And this is anyone's business how? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #16

She posted it on Reddit. That's how. Iggo Jul 2014 #24

!... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #84

Could be an opportunity for a new Paul Simon song: DreamGypsy Jul 2014 #17

Always liked this tune. edgineered Jul 2014 #52

Who says romance is dead? KinMd Jul 2014 #19

lol grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #470

This is going to end up being a viral Reddit hoax. sufrommich Jul 2014 #20

+1. The internet is so gullible. chrisa Jul 2014 #479

Seems like he was asking at all the wrong times. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #22

If this is to be believed, not alternate times were given. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #191

Yeah, because scheduling sex is really romantic. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #239

But you're condemning the man for asking for sex. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #240

Not condemning him for asking, condemning his spreadsheet. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #244

He didn't try to force himself on her. It's also his choice to seek affection elsewhere through.... Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #247

I agree. Divorce is probably best in their situation. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #266

If she's so psychotic to post this on the internet, he's probably better off without her too. :) Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #268

From both of these actions, it is clear that these two people really don't like each other. It Squinch Jul 2014 #281

Right, just divorce. Both acted stupid. n/t Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #282

I'm sorry, but as an engineer I thought this was funny as hell!!! U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #23

I would've used pie and flow charts. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #295

Too bad he did not document whatever lousy technique he is using to "coax" her. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #26

My thoughts also. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #36

this ^ Kali Jul 2014 #71

Good, now I don't have to post that ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #74

She married him. blueamy66 Jul 2014 #94

Most of us find being treated nicely, caring and showing that helps. Does being married mean uppityperson Jul 2014 #97

But we do not know this to be the case blueamy66 Jul 2014 #114

Indeed, all we know is that some person decided to keep track using their own system uppityperson Jul 2014 #122

Okay. Sex is good. Sex is fun. blueamy66 Jul 2014 #126

I see only 1 side of the story and refuse to extrapolate based on my own experiences uppityperson Jul 2014 #131

I don't think he meant any of that. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #306

Precisely. redqueen Jul 2014 #127

She probably has more relationship experience than I do REP Jul 2014 #257

Right, just like that. How simple. pnwmom Jul 2014 #568

Consider this: DebJ Jul 2014 #346

Maybe he should give her money every time, lol;) grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #133

According to some in this thread BainsBane Jul 2014 #280

Why are there so many posts in this thread about men who don't do housework? Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #380

Because the woman said as much in the part of the story left out by the OP BainsBane Jul 2014 #395

"It’s Not Just Us: Women Around The World Do More Housework And Have Less Free Time" redqueen Jul 2014 #398

To quote from "Mrs. Doubtfire"... Spazito Jul 2014 #424

some men think saying "wanna do it?" is foreplay elehhhhna Jul 2014 #475

This message was self-deleted by its author Lochloosa Jul 2014 #27

A grammar problem or a drinking problem? FSogol Jul 2014 #33

"I'm too drunk and I ate too much"... SidDithers Jul 2014 #107

Why shouldn't he be bitter hfojvt Jul 2014 #28

Awkward unless she is an accountant or has an Excel fetish maybe lunasun Jul 2014 #32

Too bad he left out the other column. edgineered Jul 2014 #34

You have no evidence that it was him not wanting to talk... Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #189

My baseless argument is proof positive of its meaning. nt edgineered Jul 2014 #233

What the hell? demwing Jul 2014 #381

Yea, it does. edgineered Jul 2014 #391

My ex: "I was in a good mood and you spoiled it." "I was in a bad mood and you're making it worse." Hekate Jul 2014 #264

Of course he's bitter, he hasn't been laid in a month NightWatcher Jul 2014 #35

I take it your wife is more accomodating ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #47

you people are killing the comedy here NightWatcher Jul 2014 #53

dude, you are killing Me over here ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #59

you were posting comedy? wow, thanks for telling us CreekDog Jul 2014 #526

Post mentioned she was driving to the airport for a 10 day business trip, never mentioned if he Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #37

As a mathematician, there is a clear, predictable sequence here. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #38

isn't that something they teach salesmen? NightWatcher Jul 2014 #41

i dunno night watcher, maybe if they had sat down and had a conversation what each needs were, seabeyond Jul 2014 #46

where's the comedy gold in that approach? NightWatcher Jul 2014 #49

thank you nightwatcher. seabeyond Jul 2014 #55

Thanks. Taken on its face, I think the guy looks worse in this story NightWatcher Jul 2014 #60

now now, sea .. it is all about quantity Not quality with these mathmetician types. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #50

but is it fuzzy math.... nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #61

! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #68

...... Mother Of Four Jul 2014 #487

I don't think that having a talk will help blueamy66 Jul 2014 #118

Well that's not true. That's way too black and white.... riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #177

I WILL KICK YOUR MATHEMATIZING ASS, NYE BEVAN Skittles Jul 2014 #265

I noticed that too AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #520

Dude does not deserve a girlfriend PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #39

a month and a half. all while he was asking, he was expecting a no, an excuse, to go to his computer seabeyond Jul 2014 #42

Yup, eom uppityperson Jul 2014 #100

As stupid as a spreadsheet was, I don't think the problem started when he started making the.... Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #308

You think this was just a month? DireStrike Jul 2014 #414

youa re assuming i assumed that, which i did not and did not make that statement. how odd. right? seabeyond Jul 2014 #415

The assumption was applied by the fact that you only talked about that month DireStrike Jul 2014 #450

Who uses a spreadsheet? Codeine Jul 2014 #44

Never thought about using PowerPoint! Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #303

Data driven performance evaluations provide clarity to linked qualitative comments. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #48

best post in the thread. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #531

No headaches? SummerSnow Jul 2014 #62

He has to ask?? Generic Brad Jul 2014 #64

sex without consent? Isn't there a word for that? /nt demwing Jul 2014 #383

That is not what I was implying Generic Brad Jul 2014 #498

he should divorce her and find someone more compatible nt msongs Jul 2014 #65

Hit and Run. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #70

Huh? pintobean Jul 2014 #73

well, well ... slow day at Discussionist is it? Didn't realize you are the arbiter of how threads Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #80

Another wtf post. pintobean Jul 2014 #83

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #86

I have no idea what you are talking about pintobean Jul 2014 #93

sounds like you've been threatening her CreekDog Jul 2014 #527

Total bullshit. pintobean Jul 2014 #547

Whatever your issues with Pintobean (and clearly you have some) tkmorris Jul 2014 #115

EarlG should take an interest in the poster because of what he posts about women CreekDog Jul 2014 #359

So you are OK with Tuesdays locked post? nt Logical Jul 2014 #518

Really? Is there a rule that OPs have to post in their own threads? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #78

No need to school me, Nye. pintobean has shown me the error of my ways. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #82

For some reason EarlG took no action against *this* "hit and run" poster.... Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #85

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #95

welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2014 #96

It was like a bottlerocket dud. pintobean Jul 2014 #99

lol gopiscrap Jul 2014 #101

One more jury decision, this could have been a Triple Crown, TheCowsCameHome Jul 2014 #138

And there you have the real reason for this thread-- R B Garr Jul 2014 #140

Really? pintobean Jul 2014 #147

Yes, Really. R B Garr Jul 2014 #151

But, you didn't answer the real question. pintobean Jul 2014 #161

LOL, you've answered your own question(s) with your own observations. R B Garr Jul 2014 #165

No, I haven't. pintobean Jul 2014 #171

And there you go getting personal. Right on schedule. R B Garr Jul 2014 #182

And, who is discussing other posters? pintobean Jul 2014 #201

LOL, is that what you got from the OP editing his comments to point fingers? n/t R B Garr Jul 2014 #219

I got that before the edit. pintobean Jul 2014 #224

...and then you were the first to bring up HoF, and then... R B Garr Jul 2014 #226

The same story posted in hof. pintobean Jul 2014 #236

Why are you so obsessed with HoF? n/t R B Garr Jul 2014 #241

Am I? pintobean Jul 2014 #242

Well, this thread was posted by someone with no comments, and R B Garr Jul 2014 #315

have you posted to Skinner and the Admins about History of Feminism? CreekDog Jul 2014 #369

You have some strange replies to me. pintobean Jul 2014 #477

I don't know why you can't answer a simple question CreekDog Jul 2014 #484

I don't know pintobean Jul 2014 #486

He went in there and trashed the group BainsBane Jul 2014 #511

What a bunch of crap. pintobean Jul 2014 #571

MRA's don't belong in History of Feminism or any feminist group CreekDog Jul 2014 #364

to bait feminists and their allies CreekDog Jul 2014 #362

You really like that MRA boogeyman. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #374

why did you get banned from that group? CreekDog Jul 2014 #372

i think feminism is more closely aligned with DU's Terms of Service than opposing feminists CreekDog Jul 2014 #361

EarlG is an admin, surely you aren't asking us to NOT talk to Admins about DU things are you? CreekDog Jul 2014 #360

You're paging Earl - presumably, to have this guy banned, right? ... over THIS? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #337

paging is not necessarily to ask for a ban, but to ask for Admins to keep an eye CreekDog Jul 2014 #370

Well hopefully there's gonna be more to the prosecution's case than just this thread. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #373

MRA! That's all the evidence anyone needs, don't you know? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #376

Go on over to the Men's Rights Reddit BainsBane Jul 2014 #463

I'll get right on that. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #556

Then I suggest you quit mocking things BainsBane Jul 2014 #560

I'll think long and hard about your suggestion. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #561

Your thoughts are clearly uninformed BainsBane Jul 2014 #565

Thank you for your concern. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #569

And it better be in a spreadsheet! With a pivot table! n/t Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #384

She should make a spreadsheet of how many times he refused to or didn't bother to: Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #72

Also.... does he practice basic hygiene? Shower regularly? Keep himself in fairly good shape? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #92

Amen! eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #98

Or, she could just be a denier joeglow3 Jul 2014 #297

Really? blueamy66 Jul 2014 #119

He should do chores to help around the house if she is working, particularly. Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #121

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #124

Wow. "Frigid" redqueen Jul 2014 #128

No, by getting married BainsBane Jul 2014 #318

But she already did ***something*** Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #120

Looking forward to seeing her spreadsheet. Tit for tat! eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #129

So long as you are ok with him posting it online. Tit for tat for tit for tat. eom. Bad Thoughts Jul 2014 #135

He started it. In that event, payback is fair. eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #139

So sex is a payment for services rendered? ;) n/t Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #154

Absolutely not~ You missed the point of sharing in the chores/responsibilities. Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #164

How do we know he didn't do equal amounts of chores? Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #170

I'm waiting for the "publication" of her spreadsheet, but I'll betcha I'm right. eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #178

How can we take it as truth but rather a vindictive response? Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #186

Trust me, the women on this board will know just by the wording. Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #192

Oh ok. Great. Sure thing. Gotcha. You betcha! Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #195

That's exactly what they're saying ;) once you have kids the mans job is to make money and do chores grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #460

The correct word is SHARE chores. eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #514

I'm sorry, but Excel has a limit of 65,536 rows mythology Jul 2014 #180

Bingo! eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #184

That's why you insert additional pages jmowreader Jul 2014 #255

Don't forget the stuff he doesn't do BainsBane Jul 2014 #202

Good point. Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #209

Someone on another site where this was posted made an observation BainsBane Jul 2014 #211

Exactly! eom Frustratedlady Jul 2014 #221

I will have sex with you if you do X, sounds like prostitution to me. grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #458

that spreadsheet should make her come running lustfully into his arms lunatica Jul 2014 #77

Wait--is she scorned? Orrex Jul 2014 #79

Yikes... SidDithers Jul 2014 #109

Spreadsheet TheCowsCameHome Jul 2014 #81

I'd be curious to see her spreadsheet... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #87

Someone should make one from her point of view. Lex Jul 2014 #143

Am I the only one who picked up on the part where she's hurting the next day? riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #103

I caught it. Kali Jul 2014 #123

That's what I first noticed gollygee Jul 2014 #188

you're assuming qazplm Jul 2014 #230

I don't know why I'd assume she'd lying gollygee Jul 2014 #243

I don't know why anyone would automatically assume that she's lying but he isn't... redqueen Jul 2014 #400

Not only that, his spreadsheet along with his comment about Jamastiene Jul 2014 #392

Excellent, excellent observation. redqueen Jul 2014 #426

I caught that, too, and... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #254

The sex is never good when one partner isn't into it bluestateguy Jul 2014 #105

Doesn't take a couples therapist to diagnose that there are communication issues with this couple stevenleser Jul 2014 #110

File this under Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #111

Welcome to The Swarm treatment. 99Forever Jul 2014 #112

lol redqueen Jul 2014 #130

Toodles! nt. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #146

Aw. Iggo Jul 2014 #207

Oh you done did it now! Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #289

Don't you know that the word "swarm" is sexist? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #338

Of course it is. 99Forever Jul 2014 #396

It must be a tough old world when people hold positions different than yours... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #411

Not if they do yoga Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #444

well, i feel sorry for him and it sounds as if Duppers Jul 2014 #113

Heh, I bet I know what most any Judge would think about that spreadsheet. Lex Jul 2014 #142

In most states, that spreadsheet wouldn't even see the light of day in a courtroom. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #284

If it's a no-fault divorce, of course not. Lex Jul 2014 #397

Ummmm, nothing. joeglow3 Jul 2014 #301

Mr. Ummmmm, can you read? Lex Jul 2014 #399

Who cares what a judge thinks joeglow3 Jul 2014 #404

Yes, you make complete sense. Lex Jul 2014 #405

Nice reply when logic is applied to your terrible attempt to cover up joeglow3 Jul 2014 #406

I didn't "question what a judge would think." Lex Jul 2014 #409

That trick never works, I'm quite certain. MineralMan Jul 2014 #117

I'd recommend he'd just stop asking... roamer65 Jul 2014 #132

ROFL! My GF's comments: grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #134

Wow very offensive. MillennialDem Jul 2014 #162

Wow. VERY offensive. lol grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #452

Who is going to support him then? BainsBane Jul 2014 #358

I imagine many idiots, among others of course, believe... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #420

Was his hands workin'? grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #453

Spreadsheet? There's a good dirty joke in there somewhere KinMd Jul 2014 #136

Indeed there is... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #217

3x in a month and a half? That's a lot. n/t taught_me_patience Jul 2014 #137

Toward the end of my marriage, that would've been a lot. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #156

I appreciate all the Duers who did not assume things from this 1 sided story. uppityperson Jul 2014 #145

Yup, only see one side of the equation. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #157

I guess she's not into LiberalElite Jul 2014 #149

(non-verbal) GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2014 #150

Or... Iggo Jul 2014 #208

Access denied? Denial of service? Rex Jul 2014 #153

She doesn't sound that much better. Deserve each other? ;) n/t Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #159

3 night of sex per month seems pretty okay to me. Rex Jul 2014 #163

3 times in 7 weeks actually. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #167

3 times in about a month period. Rex Jul 2014 #172

Once he started making this spreadsheet Mariana Jul 2014 #390

Yep! Bingo. Dorian Gray Jul 2014 #440

So? MillennialDem Jul 2014 #324

Man stoopid. elleng Jul 2014 #155

Poor guy, his vending machine is broken. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #160

It's not that difficult BainsBane Jul 2014 #168

He could help her find out why it's painful, and still painful 24 hours later gollygee Jul 2014 #190

I think it's a joke, number one cwydro Jul 2014 #166

I side with the person who doesn't keep spreadsheets CreekDog Jul 2014 #174

He sent her the spreadsheet, she posted it on Reddit. n/t tammywammy Jul 2014 #183

She was the one who posted it to Reddit, not him. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #187

I side with her, he's an asshole who thinks he's owed sex CreekDog Jul 2014 #193

She's just as wrong, sorry. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #194

Provoked, and not sorry CreekDog Jul 2014 #212

Then she's just as immature. Never sorry. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #216

If he is a decent husband and she is a denier, don't be shocked when he strays joeglow3 Jul 2014 #291

Obviously he isn't a decent husband BainsBane Jul 2014 #310

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #403

Another point in favor of the hoax theory BainsBane Jul 2014 #214

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #179

Assuming this isn't a prank or joke.. sendero Jul 2014 #181

i find it highly amusing and funny that someone would do that!!! spanone Jul 2014 #185

she's leaving on a business trip jberryhill Jul 2014 #197

Great chance for her to whip up a scorecard of her own. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2014 #200

I hope it's her excuse too! JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #235

Jury results BainsBane Jul 2014 #198

Post the full results. pintobean Jul 2014 #203

BTW BainsBane Jul 2014 #205

Well it is a great illustration of male entitlement. redqueen Jul 2014 #218

Yes BainsBane Jul 2014 #220

sing it sistah... you speak the truth. i say. as a woman. ;) nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #287

She needs to give him what he is owed... Inkfreak Jul 2014 #199

Then after a few years she will ask for a divorce because....... nolabels Jul 2014 #204

davidn3600, thank you TheCowsCameHome Jul 2014 #206

I call bullshit on this. edbermac Jul 2014 #210

Agreed. A troll hoax. grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #471

He should get a divorce LittleBlue Jul 2014 #213

Somehow I think BainsBane Jul 2014 #245

This thread reminded me of one of Louis CK's bits that I found hilarious: redqueen Jul 2014 #215

That is perfect. betsuni Jul 2014 #231

Yes,it is! freshwest Jul 2014 #434

Hahaha!! Oh my gawd so true! As a connoisseur of many men before I married riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #260

A "connoisseur of many men"? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #551

Ha Dorian Gray Jul 2014 #441

As Rodney Dangerfield was wont to say rock Jul 2014 #222

Her problem is that she's not perfect. betsuni Jul 2014 #223

"She does all the housework, laundry, cooking." redqueen Jul 2014 #225

According to her. She could be lying to garner support. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #238

And *he* could be lying a about her "excuses", and you've been all over this thread redqueen Jul 2014 #246

I concede that the husband could be just as full of shit as the wife. No doubt about it. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #285

I think it likely he is telling the truth BainsBane Jul 2014 #249

Perhaps she never cared to communicate what pleases her. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #286

I come to that conclusion based on his remark that they were 20 minutes early for dinner BainsBane Jul 2014 #293

So a husband a wife having a "quickie" at lunch MUST be because he can't perform. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #298

That isn't the context of this discussion BainsBane Jul 2014 #307

Do you have personally experience with her clitoral region? Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #309

I don't think DU actually wants to execute the guy. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #312

I was being facetious with the "execute" statement. Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #314

Yeah, I recognized that. Some people might not, though. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #317

So true, so true. n/t Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #320

Truthfully BainsBane Jul 2014 #322

That means I got all dressed up for nothin'! Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #323

You did BainsBane Jul 2014 #325

You did too! :P Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #326

No graphic? BainsBane Jul 2014 #328

LOL. What? nt Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #329

It's no fun if you don't play BainsBane Jul 2014 #330

Oh. LOL. I get it. Hmmm... Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #331

Oh, I followed the link and thought I was busted BainsBane Jul 2014 #333

The Credible Hulk. ;) Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #336

I am the personal owner of a clitoris BainsBane Jul 2014 #313

During masturbation it only takes an average of 4 minutes for women to climax Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #493

Yeap, communication has shut down somewhere... they should get to where this began uponit7771 Jul 2014 #538

The husband needs to negotiate. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #228

That's hilarious Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #229

She needs to run JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #234

Is it amusing or sad? gejohnston Jul 2014 #237

Did he leave a $20 bill on the dresser tavernier Jul 2014 #248

OMG people, this is a joke from like 10 years ago! Separation Jul 2014 #250

Shhhh! Don't spoil it. It's always September here on AOL. REP Jul 2014 #262

LOL! Phentex Jul 2014 #393

It's okay BainsBane Jul 2014 #272

th Op is whining cause we call out his predictable posting history, saying he just saw the funny, as seabeyond Jul 2014 #296

Of course BainsBane Jul 2014 #304

I can only imagine. Separation Jul 2014 #355

I would be curious what the second half says. But thanks for shedding light to the OP. Nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #356

Can't seem to find it atm. Separation Jul 2014 #367

thanks for trying. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #394

the Op put it up to diss women. now pretends just about being funny. though he specifically leaves seabeyond Jul 2014 #292

Come on. The woman's side can't be posted BainsBane Jul 2014 #351

Hmmm ... he needs one more column in his spreadsheet, like, "What type of sex he wanted!" He RKP5637 Jul 2014 #252

My guess is this is a guy BainsBane Jul 2014 #273

Needs to pickup a book, "Sex For Dummies!" RKP5637 Jul 2014 #275

i don't think he was immature at all samsingh Jul 2014 #253

Maybe he's as bad in the sheets as he is in the spreadsheets REP Jul 2014 #259

how would this go over if it was said about a woman? samsingh Jul 2014 #417

So much for the traditional, monogamous marriage. Trillo Jul 2014 #267

exactly samsingh Jul 2014 #357

I'm guessing because of cultural reasons. Trillo Jul 2014 #412

i've gone through phases where i've been too busy to be interested in sex samsingh Jul 2014 #419

she talked to you, made you aware. he stomped off and wrote it on a spread sheet. see a difference? seabeyond Jul 2014 #423

how do you know he didn't talk about and got no where? samsingh Jul 2014 #425

i did not declare i did know. i did say, she appeared surprised. seabeyond Jul 2014 #429

why assume he didn't? samsingh Jul 2014 #435

I am not assuming he did not cause I do not know. I stated the wife seabeyond Jul 2014 #442

that surprise/unaware is the problem samsingh Jul 2014 #456

Not all folks are so able, to do what you did. Trillo Jul 2014 #438

Express patience and understanding rather than keeping petulant score. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #413

I think they both eat tooo much meat and need marriage counseling. Preferably by a vegan. mackerel Jul 2014 #261

Uh, ooookay. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #270

July 12 was a good day. rug Jul 2014 #263

poor guy Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #269

Well, maybe he just stinks in bed. Beacool Jul 2014 #271

So she should communicate what she likes... Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #288

Sometimes there is communication and it goes like this: DebJ Jul 2014 #349

Lol, according to the reddit replies, he expected oral, but Jamastiene Jul 2014 #408

Score: marriage 0, divorce lawyer 1, yay ! steve2470 Jul 2014 #274

"Spreadsheet?" Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #276

Spreadsheet? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #277

I see what you did there. ;) Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #316

NOW I get it. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #319

Awesome. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #344

Did he cut cut off contact before or after she went public? marshall Jul 2014 #278

What we have here is a failure to communicate aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #279

Assuming for a moment this isn't a hoax thucythucy Jul 2014 #283

These two will either be on Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #294

My guess would be Dr. Phil. No punches have been thrown and he can pseudo-analyze them Darkhawk32 Jul 2014 #299

Halitosis fadedrose Jul 2014 #300

This thread is a wonder to behold MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #339

Whaddaya want? It's not like there's any actual news happening in the world right now. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #342

You suck. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #343

... RainDog Jul 2014 #350

I have no idea what all you just said. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #352

if you have to explain a joke RainDog Jul 2014 #353

True. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #354

I see bananas and carrots battling with green beans Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #365

I think the UN needs to call a special emergency session on the spreadsheet situation at DU Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #386

Heh. Or how about a spreadsheet of all the threads like this in GD, over the past 3 years? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #422

lets highlight those that consistently participate in threads as they gripe about threads and the seabeyond Jul 2014 #427

We could! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #428

i have little interest in the thread, let alone playing the game you two are getting such a giggle seabeyond Jul 2014 #431

Right. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #432

... opiate69 Jul 2014 #436

Little interest? I've got a macro in Excel that calculates that! Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #478

Although, no one in the thread has blamed Bill Gates, yet. Odd. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #530

you say the "world has so much crap going on right now", chiding DUers CreekDog Jul 2014 #375

You've really done it now David. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #377

Back to the topic at hand . . . Vinca Jul 2014 #382

reminds me of this quote Enrique Jul 2014 #385

He's not entitled to sex, even from his wife. alarimer Jul 2014 #387

I found this thread by following the huge plume of angry Jamastiene Jul 2014 #389

My wife sent me a similar spreadsheet for all the times I denied listening to her talk cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #402

Both are idiots maddezmom Jul 2014 #407

Why on earth do people get married? leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #410

Oh, not a spreadsheet! Data in arguments? How childish! DireStrike Jul 2014 #416

So nobody has figured out this is fake yet, except one person above? snooper2 Jul 2014 #430

Not only got trolled but embarrassed itself fully... SomethingFishy Jul 2014 #433

No, it's not even at 20% of Moon Bombing Stupidity level, yet Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #448

LMAO.. I forgot about the "moon bombing" SomethingFishy Jul 2014 #519

Whatcha doing here? BainsBane Jul 2014 #462

ten round bout of reality poutrage ruined round about ten, then run out for runied poultry porridge Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #466

I'm guessing a handful of people on this thread prioritize sex to such a degree... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #437

And I'm guessing.... opiate69 Jul 2014 #439

Oh, so true BainsBane Jul 2014 #443

All they'd have to do is turn down the reverb Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #445

! opiate69 Jul 2014 #446

Hmmmm. Wet Reverb Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #447

For reals opiate69 Jul 2014 #449

Ah, the old "popcorn bowl in the lap" trick Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #451

Few can lay claim to the smoothness that is Ross. opiate69 Jul 2014 #455

Anyone who is married, and can't have sex, who loves their spouse, would Zorra Jul 2014 #454

Here's the thing, though: Sex with a partner is not a need. redqueen Jul 2014 #457

IF this story is true- and I kinda doubt it is- then arguably that's what the dude was doing, no? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #464

Given that most women are burdened with an unfair division of labor redqueen Jul 2014 #467

It's a mystery! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #468

Such bigoted garbage. chrisa Jul 2014 #480

LOL! Wow! Really? Read it and weep: redqueen Jul 2014 #491

I don't dispute the article, nor do I think it's relevant. chrisa Jul 2014 #496

I don't know how you got that from what I wrote redqueen Jul 2014 #499

Hmmm. I don't know how YOU got from the division of unpaid labor statistics you posted Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #536

Seriously? redqueen Jul 2014 #537

You seem tense. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #539

lol opiate69 Jul 2014 #540

Well, crap, man. In my house, *I* do most of the housework. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #541

Didn't you get the memo? opiate69 Jul 2014 #542

The Patriarchy looks just like the tunnels under Castle Wolfenstein! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #543

because the wife said so in the part of the exchange the OP left out. BainsBane Jul 2014 #548

Well, I multitask. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #550

I can't claim to divine intent BainsBane Jul 2014 #553

Yeah, it's nearing like what, 600 replies now? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #563

And how many from you? BainsBane Jul 2014 #566

51, now. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #567

Close anyway. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #570

Those and more should tide DU over until February RiffRandell Jul 2014 #572

LOL...I forgot Sports Illustrated! NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #573

I hope this thread never dies. It's my go-to thread now... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #580

Alas, VC, it will die eventually. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #581

OK, it's true, people can survive without being sexually intimate with another person. Zorra Jul 2014 #472

I think if we were going to have a serious discussion on the subject... stevenleser Jul 2014 #562

I'm going with the loving marriage rather than entertainment-by-proxy. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #459

I'm going with not taking spreadsheet on Reddit. BainsBane Jul 2014 #461

My partner is still married, except now she's participating in a Zorra Jul 2014 #473

I was with a guy who had issues that way, or at least that's what he said the problem was. moriah Jul 2014 #474

He proved his point. After all, would you fuck anyone who keeps spreadsheets on how often he fucks? LTX Jul 2014 #469

my initial thought was, I cannot imagine why she doesn't want to f*** that loser Skittles Jul 2014 #504

Yep Dorian Gray Jul 2014 #554

Maybe he was into spreadsheets when she was into bedsheets. meti57b Jul 2014 #476

So... This turd was just a hit and run... Ohio Joe Jul 2014 #482

Ridiculous... davidn3600 Jul 2014 #483

Your reputation precedes you Ohio Joe Jul 2014 #485

I dont have a reputation with anyone here other than a particular clique of DUers davidn3600 Jul 2014 #488

The MRA pizza list is even longer... Ohio Joe Jul 2014 #489

I never said they are mean davidn3600 Jul 2014 #492

Twist words? BainsBane Jul 2014 #497

This post was alerted on. DanTex Jul 2014 #500

Thanks. Good jury BainsBane Jul 2014 #502

I'm not doing this again davidn3600 Jul 2014 #505

You have no one to blame but yourself for this phony charade. R B Garr Jul 2014 #506

This message was self-deleted by its author Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #508

This wasn't even supposed to be a serious thread davidn3600 Jul 2014 #509

I kind of picked up on that. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #557

The jury didn't buy the twisting words argument BainsBane Jul 2014 #510

Welcome to ignore. You're the only one on it. davidn3600 Jul 2014 #512

I accused you of none of that BainsBane Jul 2014 #513

what this guy has to say is well worth 20 minutes... ReasonableToo Jul 2014 #501

"paging Earl!!!!!" Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #523

You rang? opiate69 Jul 2014 #524

Try to keep up with new technology. I'd be snap chatting EarlG... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #544

I hear "Tinder" is good. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #564

Well, maybe he's a member of The Wolfpack. RiffRandell Jul 2014 #559

We know your posting history BainsBane Jul 2014 #495

Oh but that's different David. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #558

I wonder about his approach... Ino Jul 2014 #494

well now Howler Jul 2014 #503

It seems an awkward way to go about things. Sognefjord Jul 2014 #507

His chance of hearing a Yes just decreased by 100%. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #515

i dont understand why anyone would do this. it makes no sense in a healthy relationship La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2014 #516

Well, that's pathetic. JHB Jul 2014 #517

He should have gone down to see a Gypsy woman one ol' day, instead, yes indeed. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #521

a spreadsheet? for THAT? he may never have sex again 0rganism Jul 2014 #528

Strong whiff of "L'air du Sous Pont" about this one... n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #529

Would you all prefer the guy make the spreadsheet or fulfill his sexual needs with other women? eom tarheelsunc Jul 2014 #545

It's a lose/lose situation Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #555

One other thing I would like to point out. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #574

Some Silly TV talk show just featured this, spread sheet and all. Sognefjord Jul 2014 #575

Have they verified that it's real? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #576

I suspect they had no clue. Sognefjord Jul 2014 #583

On the up side, he got sex 3 times liberal N proud Jul 2014 #577

I'm guessing there are lots of problem to go around in this mess. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #578

How do I love thee? Let me count the lays... customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #579

This is on Headline News now. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #582