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jberryhill

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66. The "facts as they stand" tell me more about you

Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:35 AM

Jul 2014

Sorry, but you cannot judge a person - and in this context standing in judgment of someone at that age is silly - from a photograph.

"Mitchell later revealed she took the picture after studying the Holocaust with her father, who died last year."

So, apparently, it was a subject she studied with her recently-dead father who obviously didn't get to accompany her on this trip. As something she shared with this departed parent, I can completely understand her sense of satisfaction and connection to her departed parent, and why that would make her smile.

My father was among the liberators of the Ohrdruff camp with the 89th Division, and I hope I get to take a smiling selfie there someday myself.

These places were liberated and that war was ended so that the smiles of teenagers could be seen again.

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Teen Takes Heat for Ill-Conceived Selfie at Concentration Camp [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP

When I was her age... greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #1

Meh jberryhill Jul 2014 #2

I read yesterday on Gawker tammywammy Jul 2014 #49

Thanks for that. I noticed right off that despite her smile, her face is very very strained. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #96

You know, that was my first thought. She saw this as a historical memorial and wanted Fla Dem Jul 2014 #101

No, she is a self-absorbed kid. There is a difference. TM99 Jul 2014 #54

I don't pretend to judge someone's character from a snapshot jberryhill Jul 2014 #56

Well, take the facts as they stand then and see what conclusion you might TM99 Jul 2014 #62

The "facts as they stand" tell me more about you jberryhill Jul 2014 #66

It was still very inappropriate, especially TM99 Jul 2014 #70

I'm with you JBerryhill on this Saboburns Jul 2014 #103

my granddaughter is 18 years old and entering college in September... CTyankee Jul 2014 #78

This made me wonder if it's OK to take photos while there at all treestar Jul 2014 #102

Teen does something stupid. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #3

Well put. Kber Jul 2014 #6

i would have never done this as a teenager or even younger JI7 Jul 2014 #16

So what are you going to do about it? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #18

why do i need to do anything about it ? JI7 Jul 2014 #19

Why wouldn't you? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #21

many things upset me and turn me off, i don't feel it means i have to do anything JI7 Jul 2014 #23

No one took selfies then liberal N proud Jul 2014 #28

but we did take pics and i wouldn't have taken pics like that and many teens i know JI7 Jul 2014 #31

Do you think gollygee Jul 2014 #30

not sure but there are older people who do stupid shit like this also JI7 Jul 2014 #34

Done what, exactly? jeff47 Jul 2014 #52

Yep, it's the smile. Iggo Jul 2014 #58

that it was at a concentration camp, not something i would have done JI7 Jul 2014 #88

Yet you can't quite manage to specify what was bad. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #89

the whole selfie thing at that place like that JI7 Jul 2014 #91

Because.............. jeff47 Jul 2014 #92

depends on the pic JI7 Jul 2014 #93

Me, I'm thankful there was no Internet when I was that age. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2014 #51

i'm not so much offended by the photo as i am the blushing smilie at the end of the tweet Takket Jul 2014 #4

at least she's not goofing, making a silly face, or acting like a horse's ass NightWatcher Jul 2014 #5

Worst selfie of all time?!? Saboburns Jul 2014 #7

Probably just clueless countingbluecars Jul 2014 #8

I don't think this is a big deal. HubertHeaver Jul 2014 #9

I don't understand how even a teen Jenoch Jul 2014 #10

Like it or not, people, Auschwitz-Birkenau is a tourist attraction... DreamGypsy Jul 2014 #11

many places are tourist attractions, often because of something that took place JI7 Jul 2014 #25

My husband's cousin, in his 80s now, leads tours there because as he says, the younger generation... Hekate Jul 2014 #99

There are two candidate book titles in the Auschwitz-Birkenau catelog... DreamGypsy Jul 2014 #100

She's young enough to learn from this. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #12

Worst case scenario: Elle Fanning plays her in the movie. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #13

The smilely face could have been left out. Kaleva Jul 2014 #14

This was a far more outrageous photograph: Earth_First Jul 2014 #15

I mean for fuck's sake, he could afford a black coat Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #17

He borrowed a coat for that. It had the word STAFF written in big gold letters on the breast Saboburns Jul 2014 #35

he wore the staff coat because being on staff at a concentration camp was on his bucket list dembotoz Jul 2014 #47

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #73

A selfie can often be a means of documenting one's authentic presence in a place. RadiationTherapy Jul 2014 #20

Meh. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #22

why is it difficult to understand now ? i knew even before i was a teen JI7 Jul 2014 #24

Good for you. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #26

it doesn't take being magnificent to recognize how horrible the holocaust was JI7 Jul 2014 #27

Maybe she didn't pay attention in class. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #33

you seem more outraged at my response than my reaction to what was in the OP JI7 Jul 2014 #37

Whatever. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #40

you still sound outraged over someone on the internet saying they didn't like something JI7 Jul 2014 #41

Meh. Whatever. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #42

Mebbe she realizes all about the horribleness of the holocaust Saboburns Jul 2014 #39

They don't need to be magnificent Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #29

Ok, I don't get the outrage WolverineDG Jul 2014 #32

Yep. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #36

you are the one who sounds outraged about something in this thread JI7 Jul 2014 #38

You seem to need to tell everyone how much better you were as a teenager! nt Logical Jul 2014 #69

Hammer meets nail liberal N proud Jul 2014 #44

agree - really don't understand the outrage - a teen taking a pic at a tourist spot DrDan Jul 2014 #45

Not a mere tourist spot - A MEMORIAL FOR VICTIMS OF GENOCIDE. Sheesh. nt alp227 Jul 2014 #80

did I say "mere tourist spot"? don't believe so DrDan Jul 2014 #94

This is where I'm at. Xyzse Jul 2014 #60

I feel bad for today's teenagers. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #43

She put HERSELF on display, though. Which is a dynamic that escapes me. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #46

On display to her facebook friends. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #50

No more calls, please. We have a winner jberryhill Jul 2014 #55

"disparage her & subject her to ridicule/outrage"? Like throwing a mistaken map I posted on DU KittyWampus Jul 2014 #63

There's a big difference. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #79

i am like a trained seal--bring out a camera, i smile. dembotoz Jul 2014 #48

my mother is a holocaust survivor. i lost family to auschwitz. unblock Jul 2014 #53

I have dozens of photos of myself wearing inappropriate expressions for the situation... hunter Jul 2014 #57

Cute kid. Iggo Jul 2014 #59

The outrage police Harmony Blue Jul 2014 #61

What has she done wrong? NCTraveler Jul 2014 #64

I was in Dallas last year... jberryhill Jul 2014 #67

Wow. Not sure what to think about that. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #68

That's funny. tammywammy Jul 2014 #72

Not taking the Holocaust seriously. nt alp227 Jul 2014 #81

How do you know she doesn't take it seriously? NCTraveler Jul 2014 #82

CAN IT NOT BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS? alp227 Jul 2014 #83

You can't be serious. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #84

Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong. PROVE ME WRONG. alp227 Jul 2014 #85

Edited my response above. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #86

Internet Lynch Mobs Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #65

+1000! Nt Logical Jul 2014 #77

The people outraged over this worries me more than this girl does! nt Logical Jul 2014 #71

Yep. Aren't you glad everything you've ever done isn't up for judging by all the idiots on the cbdo2007 Jul 2014 #74

So true, you nailed it! nt Logical Jul 2014 #76

"Princess Breanna". KamaAina Jul 2014 #75

Gotta love all the holier than though judgments here Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #87

Agreed, which is why I can't seem to understand what the big deal was with this picture. Xyzse Jul 2014 #90

Outrage du jour Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #95

The only baffling thing here... DemocraticWing Jul 2014 #97

Some folks just really need to worry about more important things bigwillq Jul 2014 #98

Dang cwydro Jul 2014 #104

I'm not a part of this generation any more. minivan2 Jul 2014 #105

She probably thought Auschwitz is where they kept the Latino children elaristotle Jul 2014 #106

Someone took a vacation photo. I'm OUTRAGED! chrisa Jul 2014 #107

Meanwhile persons sitting on deck cheers celebrating the malaise Jul 2014 #108