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Babel_17

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66. But we've always known this

Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:13 PM

Jul 2014

This isn't news to me, and many others as well, I think. So can't we do with less talk about stuff we already know?

Do we really need to learn more about Dick Cheney and the additional ways he lied and bullied us into war?

Do we really need to learn more about how the financial industry evades accountability and is setting us up, again, to bear the costs for their insanity?

Do we really need to learn more about the ways the Koch brothers fund wild eyed extremists?

Do we really need to learn more about how the corporations with power and influence take advantage of the tax laws?

This is not news.

My sense of amazement hasn't been used up. K&R.

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New Surveillance Whistleblower: The NSA Violates the Constitution - TheAtlantic [View all] WillyT Jul 2014 OP

Cue the NSA Propagandists...3 2 1... Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #1

Messenger attack mode . . . ON! gratuitous Jul 2014 #7

Anyone that is willing to come forward christx30 Jul 2014 #13

Hey, spoiler alert, fella! gratuitous Jul 2014 #16

You already know this fella has a garage full of boxes TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #8

drip, drip, drip kpete Jul 2014 #2

Anytime... kpete, Anytime... WillyT Jul 2014 #3

K&R G_j Jul 2014 #4

1981 Octafish Jul 2014 #5

You Are Quite Welcome !!! - And Thank You For Yours !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #10

And that is a nice addition to this post. zeemike Jul 2014 #25

Courage is contagious. woo me with science Jul 2014 #6

Yes It Is !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #12

John Napier Tye is a LEGITIMATE WHISTLEBLOWER, unlike Snowden. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #9

Blah, blah, blah. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #20

Snowden belongs in prison, he's NOT a whistleblower. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #22

Your Opinion Only - Others Would Disagree cantbeserious Jul 2014 #24

All the whistle blowers before him got nowhere. zeemike Jul 2014 #27

+ 1,000 cantbeserious Jul 2014 #30

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #31

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #40

+1000000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #42

...and the traitors were saying the provided legal channels should have been used. L0oniX Jul 2014 #54

PLUS ONE! Thank you, zeemike. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #68

pffft L0oniX Jul 2014 #55

Really. Why didn't Tye come forward broadly and publicly prior to Snowden? Courage is contagious. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #38

+1 n/t Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #52

K&R! Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #11

Waiting For The Blue Hyperlinks - In 3 . 2 . 1 cantbeserious Jul 2014 #14

The government infiltrators are becoming obvious lately. L0oniX Jul 2014 #56

Big brother will take all actions necessary to protect the establishment and otherwise thwart indepat Jul 2014 #15

1981 Executive Order? That would be when Saint Ronnie was President. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #17

Yup, being abused today, under this administration. nt woo me with science Jul 2014 #45

Good, we obviously have more than enough insiders good to see more "outsiders" raindaddy Jul 2014 #18

DURec leftstreet Jul 2014 #19

The latest meme is that Snowden hasn't produced "evidence: riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #21

Thanks WillyT! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #23

kicking. nt navarth Jul 2014 #26

A primer on Executive Order 12333: The Mass Surveillance Starlet. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #28

And Thanks For That Article Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #29

WillyT!!! Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #32

Wow... zeemike Jul 2014 #34

Was this inevitable when W and Cheney purposely ignored 911 warnings and ushered in Patriot Act? randys1 Jul 2014 #53

+1 countryjake Jul 2014 #36

Yes, but they do it to keep us safe. Safe from, um, ourselves. Yeah, that's it. Scuba Jul 2014 #33

Good News...hope others will follow.. KoKo Jul 2014 #35

Kick & recommend! countryjake Jul 2014 #37

It's very nice that Tye is letting us know his opinion. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #39

That's The Problem With Following The Law... From Tye's Orignal Piece In The WaPo: WillyT Jul 2014 #41

I await the normal denier tactic which is to demand "proof" with a smirk.... Pholus Jul 2014 #43

He is backing up Snowden's allegations, he will be smeared and attacked sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #48

The answer is they'll never stop. Pholus Jul 2014 #49

Yes, their latest theme that there's no "proof" is crazy. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #50

"their latest theme that there's no "proof" is crazy." NealK Jul 2014 #64

It should be considered a violation of the law and possibly of the Constitution JDPriestly Jul 2014 #71

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #72

I don't think he has struck the right balance because it will not be reeled in without destroying it TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #73

We were right, more will come forward. Many of these people thought they were serving sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #44

I have begun to ask the question. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #47

I can agree that the unwarranted invasion of citizen privacy is something that we all need to be kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #57

if you do not believe in the Constitution questionseverything Jul 2014 #60

Krecc'd Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #46

K&R JEB Jul 2014 #51

So do they have that switch to turn off the internet yet? L0oniX Jul 2014 #58

Yes, but look at all the GOOD the NSA does, like . . . tclambert Jul 2014 #59

Not surprised Harmony Blue Jul 2014 #61

K&R. blackspade Jul 2014 #62

So, as usual, either nothing will be done about it, or... Amonester Jul 2014 #63

Oh noes! Another Obama hater! NealK Jul 2014 #65

But we've always known this Babel_17 Jul 2014 #66

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #67

Where are the pro-NSA folks? LondonReign2 Jul 2014 #69

Good news? Or limited hangout? RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #70

Last Kick... Cause So Many Apparently Didn't Get To See It... WillyT Jul 2014 #74