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DanTex

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54. I think violence is sometimes a necessity. But not the violence we're currently seeing in Gaza.

Tue Jul 22, 2014, 04:50 PM

Jul 2014

And also not the bulldozing, glad we agree about that. I also don't think that dropping the nukes on Japan was necessary, and the amount of firebombing towards the end of WW2 was excessive.

The thing is, the Israeli government has done some pretty nasty things. And, yes, so has the US government -- Latin America during the Cold War, for example. I'm not sure what the problem is with pointing this out.

Also, Hamas is a terrorist group and firing missiles at civilians is murder, but that kinda goes without saying, along the lines of "state sponsored rape is bad".

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In West Bank, Israel revives home demolitions [View all] alsame Jul 2014 OP

It's stuff like this that makes it really really difficult to accept the moral justifications DanTex Jul 2014 #1

Of course, the monsters who lynched Mohammed Khdeir geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2

Israel, working hard to be the most loathed nation on earth. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #3

I wonder if they even care about that. n/t sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #4

Too bad you're in such a small minority leftynyc Jul 2014 #9

Good for them...thanks...hadn't seen that nt clarice Jul 2014 #13

No problem leftynyc Jul 2014 #17

I agree......I think that most people..... clarice Jul 2014 #19

On this board you have leftynyc Jul 2014 #24

Well said. nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #29

I don't get that either..... clarice Jul 2014 #31

There's a difference. These alsame Jul 2014 #33

Really? leftynyc Jul 2014 #44

Yes, that's the other country that we alsame Jul 2014 #46

I most certainly can make that claim leftynyc Jul 2014 #49

You're missing my point, it's not alsame Jul 2014 #53

But it hasn't always been that way leftynyc Jul 2014 #56

So religious beliefs should alsame Jul 2014 #68

Saudi Arabia is one of the most hated countries on DU. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #88

You didn't really answer the question. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #89

I disagree - Israel has many supporters here muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #90

Support wasn't the question...hate was. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #91

The question was "when was the last time Saudi Arabia was called out for anything?" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #92

Given the amount of "hits" between the two countries....I'd say you're wrong. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Jawja Jul 2014 #95

The difference is that nobody is defending the acts of those other countries. DanTex Jul 2014 #39

I don't see anyone defending carnage leftynyc Jul 2014 #45

You, for example, describing the violence as a "necessity". DanTex Jul 2014 #48

The bulldozing is a horrendous leftynyc Jul 2014 #50

I think violence is sometimes a necessity. But not the violence we're currently seeing in Gaza. DanTex Jul 2014 #54

So what is Israel to do? leftynyc Jul 2014 #58

I don't know. It's a tough situation. That's all I've got. DanTex Jul 2014 #64

that was an unbelievably leftynyc Jul 2014 #73

What pisses me off is Israel's mass murder campaign in Gaza. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #36

You'd have a lot more leftynyc Jul 2014 #47

Are you even aware of US Syria policy? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #63

Yes, it is too bad. I remember being in a small minority when I was opposed to the Iraq War. DanTex Jul 2014 #41

But it wasn't a small minority against Iraq leftynyc Jul 2014 #52

Who said Hamas doesn't use human shields? Not me. DanTex Jul 2014 #59

No justification for settlements - ZERO leftynyc Jul 2014 #62

OK. Nice talking to you. A civil discussion on Israel/Palestine! DanTex Jul 2014 #65

I'm trying to post leftynyc Jul 2014 #72

Israel is NOT the worst country. bravenak Jul 2014 #74

You certainly leftynyc Jul 2014 #75

We just care about the US and Israel more. bravenak Jul 2014 #76

^^THIS^^ stranger81 Jul 2014 #77

I share your disgust leftynyc Jul 2014 #83

Yeah, looks like we actually agree on a lot. DanTex Jul 2014 #79

Are they going to bulldoze the families of those who burned the Palestinian boy alive? LittleBlue Jul 2014 #5

Nope. Israel has a one way street mentality. obxhead Jul 2014 #8

Nothing bad will happen to the people who forced 4now Jul 2014 #10

Utter bullshit. You confuse the two groups. tritsofme Jul 2014 #16

Nope - they will throw a parade leftynyc Jul 2014 #18

Repeating nonsense doesn't make it any less nonsense tritsofme Jul 2014 #34

If you want to ignore the leftynyc Jul 2014 #43

Now I'm confused, are you speaking of Israel or Hamas? tritsofme Jul 2014 #51

Apologies leftynyc Jul 2014 #55

^^That was comedy gold. Two pro-Israel posters arguing with each other, LOL! morningfog Jul 2014 #57

LOL - You call that rage? leftynyc Jul 2014 #60

No, I said the posters were blinded by rage, morningfog Jul 2014 #66

You think I'm blinded leftynyc Jul 2014 #70

By the way, I think Israel's "overreaction" speaks morningfog Jul 2014 #67

No idea leftynyc Jul 2014 #71

How many were kille by the tickets before the morningfog Jul 2014 #78

I'm going to assume leftynyc Jul 2014 #84

The rockets had exactly one casualty. Therefo the appropriate response is one casualty in Gaza n/t eridani Jul 2014 #82

Well, that could be the most leftynyc Jul 2014 #85

It is Israel that is attacking the Palestinians every single day eridani Jul 2014 #86

Your disdain for Israeli lives leftynyc Jul 2014 #87

The odds would be pretty much in my favor, as there are virtually no civilian casualties from them eridani Jul 2014 #94

EXACTLY !!! nt clarice Jul 2014 #21

The Israelis who carried out the revenge attack will be arrested, tried, and imprisoned. DanTex Jul 2014 #42

I wonder if our resident pro-Israel defenders will defend these actions? Hugabear Jul 2014 #6

"It's Hamas' fault." nt alsame Jul 2014 #7

They'll defend them...no matter the outrage, they defend them. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #80

Keeping the hatred alive aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #11

Absolute barbarianism. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #12

This is what happens when two groups of people are so angry with each other, for so long Rex Jul 2014 #14

Israelis see dead Israeli children, Palestinians see geek tragedy Jul 2014 #20

Wait...did you mean Palestinians see dead Palestinian children? Rex Jul 2014 #23

the former. edited, thanks for the catch. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #25

NP. I agree 100% with you. Rex Jul 2014 #28

When each race/tribe sees the other as brush geek tragedy Jul 2014 #35

Yeah it might be impossible for both groups to finally decide on decades of peace. Rex Jul 2014 #37

Yes....and I really don't see an answer.... clarice Jul 2014 #22

I don't believe you can. They are too far removed from reality at that point imo. Rex Jul 2014 #26

YEP !! nt clarice Jul 2014 #32

The US constitution wisely bans "corruption of blood" tritsofme Jul 2014 #15

This is amoral and idiotic iandhr Jul 2014 #27

Insanity...both groups suffer from it. Rex Jul 2014 #30

Netanyahu is a warmonger. He needs to be stopped. Avalux Jul 2014 #38

Similar to North Korea madville Jul 2014 #40

All that's missing is Bibi's cowboy boots and smirk. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #61

Dumb, dumb dum dum dumb! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #69

And the Israelis wonder how Hamas keeps getting more and more support. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #81