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23. it's an attack, a cute one, but still an attack

Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:02 PM

Jul 2014

. . . it's the same type of demoralizing despair that most of the anti-Hillary posters spread around here on this board. It's ultimately self-defeating, and transparently self-serving.

I'm proud to be a Democrat. I have little use for someone campaigning outside of our party, and I suspect that she doesn't have our best interest at the heart of her complaints of our most prominent potential candidate. Hell, she's even pushing off on our Democratic president.

"I admit that in 2008 I went with Obama, feeling at the time that he was carrying the real spirit of things, yada, yada, yada. Yeah, well. Anyway."

She is not a Democrat. That may well suit some folks here, but she doesn't have the interests of our party at heart and that's not an effort that I can get behind, given the state of the opposition.

I'd support Bernie (or O'Malley, or others) as a Democratic candidate and I will not be voting for Hillary in my primary or encouraging anyone else to do so. I really believe we'll accomplish a lot more by advocating for the candidate we believe in, rather than spending the majority of our time and effort tearing down dedicated Democrats like Hillary who may well be our only hope against the republican opposition in the end.

That's how much I care about the issues I advocate for. I'm not giving the opposition an inch against ANY of our Democrats. This person? Not so much.

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An Open Letter to Hillary Clinton [View all] babylonsister Jul 2014 OP

K and R bigwillq Jul 2014 #1

Nor mine. Why should we vote for a Hillary who claims she has seen Jesus and JDPriestly Jul 2014 #42

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #2

how 'bout just, please don't run. n/t Dawgs Jul 2014 #3

She can run. bigwillq Jul 2014 #4

ok. i would rather she doesn't run. n/t Dawgs Jul 2014 #5

Wow! Marianne Williamson nails it! mahalo babylonsistah! Cha Jul 2014 #6

If you agree with this, do you agree the current administration should also not do these things? BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #9

+1 Scuba Jul 2014 #16

Yes. And, don't worry.. no one is holding Hillary to a higher standard. It's just common Cha Jul 2014 #22

I agree with it, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2014 #29

Unless we get the Corpratists out of Congress and off the Benches it wouldn't change much! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #50

Such bullshit! They way you guys have treated this president with all your double standards? PLEASE! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #36

I was actually asking if there will be a double standard for the next Democratic candidate BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #38

There always is. Democrats are never ever satisfied with their candidates, so we get angry and stay Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #39

If you believe that Democrats must bow to corporate interests to be elected BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #55

See, you're part of the problem. I did not say that and I DO NOT believe that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #56

It is the only logical conclusion from your posts BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #57

The question ain't whether the candidate is electable. Hoppy Jul 2014 #68

I do believe that the current administration should not do these things. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #44

And that says it. Balls in your court now Hillary. jwirr Jul 2014 #7

Alerting for testicles reference. (j/k) lovemydog Jul 2014 #35

Have you ever heard of basketball? It is played on a court!!! jwirr Jul 2014 #62

"(j/k)" means "just kidding". nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #64

Sorry. I did not know that - too old and am just learning this new way of communicating. Thanks jwirr Jul 2014 #65

no problem, glad to help. awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #67

Just who would you back who has been in politics who has not taken contributions from corporations? Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #8

A more relevant question for this thread is who the hell is Marianne Williamson? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #12

By the information she has on her site she has not decided how she will run as Independent and has Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #18

One of the many things Jimmy Carter, George McGovern and Hillary Clinton have in common... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #20

Reality is running for a national office takes a lot of money, corporations donate to candidates on Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #37

Marianne Williamson is great. She is a spiritual leader on the left. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #45

She does declare as a democrat nor does she know if she will caucus with the Democrats which Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #47

She can't run in November. She will not be in Congres. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #58

The point is she has said her position is she did not know how she would run and id she ran as an Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #59

Yes, Marianne Williamson has an opinion about Hillary.. Fucking GMO and their poisonous Cha Jul 2014 #24

I stand with pro science Democrats like Jimmy Carter and George McGovern in their support for GMOs wyldwolf Jul 2014 #27

Yeah, you stand with them.. I stand with my friends in the Hawaiian Islands who don't want anything Cha Jul 2014 #31

Show us any anecdotal or empirical evidence GMOs are bad. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #32

From wiki, and I am familiar with her via sister: babylonsister Jul 2014 #25

Woman speaks the truth. Skidmore Jul 2014 #10

who then? blackapron Jul 2014 #11

Other choices will emerge, imo bigwillq Jul 2014 #14

Hillary has a lot of baggage in that unstoppable train and a lot of CYA to do. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #13

Clinton is hyping the inequality rhetoric. joshcryer Jul 2014 #15

another attack on Clinton - this one pretending that there's something Clinton could do bigtree Jul 2014 #17

Not an attack, one person's opinion. Since I haven't babylonsister Jul 2014 #19

it actually is an attack, and the same old same old wyldwolf Jul 2014 #21

The question is whether a candidate who relies on so much corporate funding is worth electing. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #46

it's an attack, a cute one, but still an attack bigtree Jul 2014 #23

Point, bigtree Hekate Jul 2014 #49

Thanks.. this would be good in the OP.. since some have no clue who Marianne Williamson is.. Cha Jul 2014 #26

And, so what if it is an attack? no one has a right to "attack" Hillary with how she feels about Cha Jul 2014 #33

hi, Cha bigtree Jul 2014 #34

I agree that she has a right to speak out.. regardless of her "yada yada yada" attitude toward Cha Jul 2014 #41

sure, Cha, she can speak out all she wants bigtree Jul 2014 #48

I know how you feel, bigtree.. after I read the whole thing Cha Jul 2014 #51

GMO's threaten our food supply bigtree Jul 2014 #53

Thank you for this!!!! "My concern is with the elimination of native species of plants." That's Cha Jul 2014 #54

That is the weirdest nonendorsement endorsement I've ever read. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #28

k/r 840high Jul 2014 #30

Could Not Agree More cantbeserious Jul 2014 #40

It's way too late. delrem Jul 2014 #43

well done! nt G_j Jul 2014 #52

So... people will vote for her if she changes completely who she is? Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #60

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #61

I'm not into this woman, but K&R for important points.. n/t 2banon Jul 2014 #63

If HRC is nominated Thespian2 Jul 2014 #66

R, R, R fadedrose Jul 2014 #69