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Dragonfli

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90. Um, they are both fines, and the plan was a right wing idea for over 20 years, you like semantic

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:36 AM

Apr 2012

arguments over substance arguments don't you?

The words used to describe the punishment hardly matter to the mandated now do they?

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'Holding his feet to the fire' is just fine. [View all] MineralMan Apr 2012 OP

Glad I've missed those. Wait Wut Apr 2012 #1

I'm interested in the politics, despite the stress. MineralMan Apr 2012 #2

Oh, I'm interested in politics...obviously. Wait Wut Apr 2012 #7

I'm trying to follow your example. MineralMan Apr 2012 #8

Heh...that's why I stalk FReakshow! Wait Wut Apr 2012 #16

I'm voting for the most progressive, anti-war, candidates on the ballot. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #3

OK. As long as they're Democrats MineralMan Apr 2012 #4

It will be a Democrat..if He/She is the most progressive, anti-war, candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #10

Cool. If it doesn't matter, I don't care a bit. MineralMan Apr 2012 #13

In the 2008 Presidential election I voted third party for President and my candidate won. A Simple Game Apr 2012 #33

i vote for dems via the Working Family ticket too, but let's not pretend that's what people mean dionysus Apr 2012 #82

I admit it's kind of a half way thing, but if enough people did it A Simple Game Apr 2012 #83

i agree. dionysus Apr 2012 #85

Trouble is, who defines the difference? tkmorris Apr 2012 #5

That's up to you, really. MineralMan Apr 2012 #6

Yep... Wait Wut Apr 2012 #14

Yes, sources matter. Using rightwing sources to bash Obama tells me a lot about a poster emulatorloo Apr 2012 #18

I suppose this would all spring into focus... tkmorris Apr 2012 #19

It's not a single thread, really. It's lots of threads. MineralMan Apr 2012 #24

OK. Thanks for letting me know how troubled you are... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #9

Nicely played...I see you've been reading. MineralMan Apr 2012 #12

Those chores won't do themselves. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #17

The chores are done. MineralMan Apr 2012 #25

Please pardon me if I don't answer a reply right away. MineralMan Apr 2012 #11

Troubling indeed. We've got posters openly stating they're voting third party, and they're..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #15

You mean the post TriMera Apr 2012 #20

Nope. This is about the 2012 election. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #22

Ooops! I stand corrected. I hadn't seen that one. TriMera Apr 2012 #23

I know the feeling. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #29

why is that lil yellow feller karate chopping at me?!? them's... fightin woids! dionysus Apr 2012 #36

Hey dion, you old cuss! How have you been? Still in fightin' form, I see. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #39

rough february, ain't been around as much... better in other ways. dionysus Apr 2012 #44

I've been meaning to ask Devon if you were okay. I missed ya! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #47

It's about a lot of threads, not just one, and not from MineralMan Apr 2012 #26

So you say... SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #21

And you can freely post on DU about what you believe. MineralMan Apr 2012 #27

Not true. I know some longtime DU'ers who have gotten banned SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #30

OK. I'm still seeing the same names here, so I'm not sure who MineralMan Apr 2012 #31

How many longtime DUers have you met in your 7 months here? Robb Apr 2012 #46

I suspect that your concept and purpose of holding someone's 'feet to the fire' Edweird Apr 2012 #28

You can believe whatever you can believe. MineralMan Apr 2012 #32

there is a line where feet holding turns into a constant campaign against... dionysus Apr 2012 #35

You appear to be unclear on the concept as well. Edweird Apr 2012 #68

people campaigning against dems on a message board aren't trying to change the president's opinion, dionysus Apr 2012 #72

So we should all be chickens supporting Col. Sanders since Jimmy Dean is worse. Edweird Apr 2012 #79

got it. you think obama is evil and will continue campaigning against him. like that's a fucking dionysus Apr 2012 #80

I'm 'anti RW policy'. Obama started with an 'A' and brought his grade down from there all by himself Edweird Apr 2012 #98

the stench of elm smoke does linger terribly, doesn't it? like a bad cigar... dionysus Apr 2012 #34

Didn't POTUS win the Democratic Primary yesterday? CakeGrrl Apr 2012 #37

their campaign will never end, you do realize that don't you? dionysus Apr 2012 #38

Wrong forum for whining about DU. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #40

Do I know who you're talking about? You Better Believe It! scheming daemons Apr 2012 #41

No, not specifically. MineralMan Apr 2012 #58

Besides threatening not to vote for him or withholding contributions, what is there? Bonobo Apr 2012 #42

trying to suppress turnout on a dem board isn't fooling anyone. try harder. dionysus Apr 2012 #45

Trying to pretend to be a liberal isn't fooling anyone. Try harder. Bonobo Apr 2012 #50

you must be clairvoyant. indeed. dionysus Apr 2012 #52

Probably a TOG-head too. nt Bonobo Apr 2012 #53

keep going, you're on a roll... dionysus Apr 2012 #54

keep up that rapier wit, sir. dionysus Apr 2012 #56

Communication, as you correctly pointed out. MineralMan Apr 2012 #60

OK, communication. But without some "leverage" on your side, what power does that have? Bonobo Apr 2012 #67

No threat is required. MineralMan Apr 2012 #69

As I said, the threat is implied and need to be stated explicitly. Bonobo Apr 2012 #70

There are some elected officials, particularly legislators, MineralMan Apr 2012 #71

Sorry but I believe that statement is patently untrue. Just my opinion of course. Bonobo Apr 2012 #76

OK, you disagree. That's fine. MineralMan Apr 2012 #77

Why are you confused about me disagreeing? Bonobo Apr 2012 #78

The name of that emoticon is :shrug: MineralMan Apr 2012 #97

No doubt you are trying to put out the fire. NCTraveler Apr 2012 #43

Any criticism not originating from right wing fascist sources is fine. joshcryer Apr 2012 #48

Lol @ you talking about suspect places. nt Union Scribe Apr 2012 #49

why would that be, exactly? dionysus Apr 2012 #55

Heh heh, tell me about it! Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #57

Yes, of course, you allude to that. MineralMan Apr 2012 #59

Without a doubt BBI will be tombstoned. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #51

That could happen, but it will be the admins who decide. MineralMan Apr 2012 #61

LOL Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #64

Well, I would rather an admited left of center rebel stay and a proud former freeper RWer get canned Dragonfli Apr 2012 #66

A left of center "rebel" who repeatedly posts right wing sources? joshcryer Apr 2012 #81

You mean like the ones admitting where the Individual mandate came from? Dragonfli Apr 2012 #84

Nope. The ones that compared the "tax credit" mandate to a "fines" mandate. joshcryer Apr 2012 #87

Um, they are both fines, and the plan was a right wing idea for over 20 years, you like semantic Dragonfli Apr 2012 #90

No they are not. One is an incentive one is a fine. joshcryer Apr 2012 #91

I can't discuss this with you because you need to understand Dragonfli Apr 2012 #92

Please don't essentially call me stupid. You have yet to show how a tax credit is comparable... joshcryer Apr 2012 #93

So you are claiming the Heritage Foundation plan is more liberal? Dragonfli Apr 2012 #94

Haha, a "tax break" is not liberal. It's regressive. joshcryer Apr 2012 #95

A tax break is more liberal than a tax fine as an enforcement, They 93 law was a more liberal Dragonfli Apr 2012 #99

It was a Presidential Primary 2008 idea. joshcryer Apr 2012 #101

No kidding. Bobbie Jo Apr 2012 #88

funny thing is it was always obvious and transparent. damned if i know why anyone buys it... dionysus Apr 2012 #100

As they say, from your keyboard.....nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2012 #89

Certainly, there are people relishing to dance on his grave... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #96

Oh Jesus. Not this shit again. SmellyFeet Apr 2012 #62

Thanks for your advice. MineralMan Apr 2012 #63

I said it once, and I'll say it again - OBAMA IS THE BEST WE ARE GOING TO GET Taverner Apr 2012 #65

Places you don't like? Oilwellian Apr 2012 #73

I don't visit that site. MineralMan Apr 2012 #74

He built the bonfire through his policy choices. woo me with science Apr 2012 #75

So....to what end? I mean you got Obama or romney. Zax2me Apr 2012 #86

You arbitrarily decide when some line is crossed? morningfog Apr 2012 #102