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LWolf

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65. I do those things,

Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:44 PM

Jul 2014

and that's frustrating. Because you are right, there is usually not a ripple.

I don't see the political position we claim as what we do, anyway. I just get really, really frustrated by the misuse and abuse of political labels all the time, but especially heading into a campaign season. I can see, for example, that we're going to be hearing about how HRC is a liberal all the way to the convention, just as in '08 we were bombarded with the "Obama is not dlc" talking point. Neither of those are "wrong." They're also not complete nor completely accurate.

I like having a definition that steps outside the narrow American crop. I also like the cognitive dissonance that makes it harder for anyone to act like the person they vote for truly represents them.

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It looks like it's time again. Where do you stand politically? [View all] LWolf Jul 2014 OP

Right where I always end up MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1

When your choice is between "Authoritarian" and merrily Jul 2014 #3

It's not between those two things, obviously. LWolf Jul 2014 #20

Sorry, those are the two poles given. merrily Jul 2014 #29

.. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #31

Thanks. I would never choose those as the two poles. merrily Jul 2014 #34

Then why would you think it had anything to do with the (US) Libertarian Party? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #48

I didn't. merrily Jul 2014 #52

They pretty clearly have nothing to do with one another. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #55

It's 4-way. LWolf Jul 2014 #69

It's not an American site. LWolf Jul 2014 #9

Green quadrant for me, as usual. polichick Jul 2014 #2

I'm still where I always was on issues. Our party however seems to be sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #4

A Libertarian, I fear... Ron Obvious Jul 2014 #5

"European-style social democrat" is a helpful description I think. polichick Jul 2014 #6

"Libertarian" LWolf Jul 2014 #11

In the lower left of the lower left quadrant Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #7

-7.5 Economic; -6.75 Social LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #8

From the FAQ: LWolf Jul 2014 #13

Out of curiosity, I just 'did' it for Miliband and Cameron, on the basis of their known policies LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #21

Based on LWolf Jul 2014 #23

Before doing it myself for what I see as their views, I think you're likely right muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #58

Watch how they vote, not what they say and go from there. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #41

YES. nt LWolf Jul 2014 #44

I highly doubt that any of the individuals on that chart have taken this test. nt onehandle Jul 2014 #10

See response # 13. nt LWolf Jul 2014 #14

I always end up about in the middle of the green quadrant. MineralMan Jul 2014 #12

Again. # 13. nt LWolf Jul 2014 #15

I saw that. It's nonsense. MineralMan Jul 2014 #16

I disagree. LWolf Jul 2014 #18

OK. You disagree. MineralMan Jul 2014 #19

It might not be entirely accurate but I agree with you that it's probably pretty close. Dawgs Jul 2014 #32

I think direct verbal input from a politician is likely to merrily Jul 2014 #35

I do, too. nt LWolf Jul 2014 #39

How politicians vote is where they stand. Their words mean very little except for a sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #43

I disagree with you, actually. MineralMan Jul 2014 #45

I disagree, a politician's record of voting tells us where they stand. A few disappointing sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #49

OK. You disagree. MineralMan Jul 2014 #50

Yes, and I explained why. Your choice not to respond to the points made. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #56

Indeed. Yes, It is my choice. MineralMan Jul 2014 #57

Why not say what you want to say? We DUers can read between the lines sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #75

Left, libertarian-leaning - Nelson Mandela-like. closeupready Jul 2014 #17

Eh. More centrist than I thought... devils chaplain Jul 2014 #22

That's not "centrist" LWolf Jul 2014 #24

Closer to the center than I would've thought. n/t devils chaplain Jul 2014 #27

Before you all crown yourselves green... brooklynite Jul 2014 #25

+1 Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #61

Howdy, neighbor! KamaAina Jul 2014 #26

Fairly far left and just passed middle of the road Libertarianism Alittleliberal Jul 2014 #28

I think I moved further to the left in the green quadrant. Xyzse Jul 2014 #30

I don't need to know where I supposedly fit on a chart. merrily Jul 2014 #33

So... LWolf Jul 2014 #38

It's not one thing or even several things merrily Jul 2014 #46

I do those things, LWolf Jul 2014 #65

Left Libertarian aka Anarchist Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #36

-5.50 Economic; -5.85 Authoritarian. n/t Martin Eden Jul 2014 #37

I question any chart that puts Dalai Lama at the most liberal place, considering that until recently Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #40

That's not a liberal place. LWolf Jul 2014 #42

Want to split rhetorical hairs or address the point made? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #47

No, lol. LWolf Jul 2014 #66

Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.72 TBF Jul 2014 #51

. rug Jul 2014 #53

Economic Left/Right: -7.25, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31 sakabatou Jul 2014 #54

Economic Left/Right: -7.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51 (nt) bigwillq Jul 2014 #59

For me it's minivan2 Jul 2014 #60

Always left-libertarian. -7.45, -4.62 lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #62

I've moved more to the left these past couple of years. (Economic -7.12) (Social -6.82) DEMTough Jul 2014 #63

Mine... Agschmid Jul 2014 #64

I haven't changed much since the last time Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #67

Can't get much more left/libertarian on the scale. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #68

I've crept a bit that way, as well. LWolf Jul 2014 #70

Economic Left/Right: -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69 Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #71

Pretty far to the left... smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #72

It would appear I have shifted radicaly to the left Dragonfli Jul 2014 #73

Welcome to the sector! Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #74

I've shifted a bit in that direction as well. LWolf Jul 2014 #79

Isn't this test designed to make people think they are libertarian? abelenkpe Jul 2014 #76

With Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela and Ghandi.n/t kickysnana Jul 2014 #77

Last time I took it (pretty recently) I was way down in the bottom left corner. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #78

Green as fuck over here. Orsino Jul 2014 #80

-8.75 / -9.23. Deep in the bottom left corner, as always. nt GliderGuider Jul 2014 #81