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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald tries to attack Elizabeth Warren on twitter - Uses right wing source [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,411 posts)183. Greenwald is a fan of Warren, when it comes to financial regulation
GLENN GREENWALD: Well, theres thisone of the best parts about the financial regulation bill, maybe the only truly meaningful part, is the creation of this agency, which is the idea of Professor Elizabeth Warren at Harvard to essentially police the ability of Wall Street to put fine print into mortgage and credit applications that lure the consumer into extremely one-sided and imbalanced transactions that they dont know about, because they lack the sophistication, they dont have lawyers to do it. And the idea of the progressive base was that she is the person who ought to be heading this agency, because she is genuinely committed to the idea of limiting Wall Street abuses. Shes a crusader for economic justice and for protection of consumers, exactly the kind of person that this administration needs but doesnt have in important financial positions.
And the problem was, progressives were demanding it, but their real constituency, which is Wall Street and business, are horrified by the idea of Elizabeth Warren, and they needed to find some solution, because if they didnt nominate her, progressives would be in revolt before the election. And so, what they did was they created this hybrid solution, where they pretended that they were going to appoint her, even though she has no real authorityshes just an adviser to the Presidentto set up the agency, but not to run it, and meanwhile theyre telling Wall Street, "Oh, dont worry, shes not really going to have any authority. Shes not going to be the person whos running it." And its these kind of symbolic gestures in the last several weeks that I think are almost more offensive, as they try and pretend that they are something that for the last two years they havent been.
http://mwcnews.net/focus/analysis/5370-glenn-greenwald-on-iran.html
And the problem was, progressives were demanding it, but their real constituency, which is Wall Street and business, are horrified by the idea of Elizabeth Warren, and they needed to find some solution, because if they didnt nominate her, progressives would be in revolt before the election. And so, what they did was they created this hybrid solution, where they pretended that they were going to appoint her, even though she has no real authorityshes just an adviser to the Presidentto set up the agency, but not to run it, and meanwhile theyre telling Wall Street, "Oh, dont worry, shes not really going to have any authority. Shes not going to be the person whos running it." And its these kind of symbolic gestures in the last several weeks that I think are almost more offensive, as they try and pretend that they are something that for the last two years they havent been.
http://mwcnews.net/focus/analysis/5370-glenn-greenwald-on-iran.html
Meanwhile, new laws to legalize both same-sex marriage and marijuana use were enacted in multiple states with little controversy, an unthinkable result even a few years ago, while Obama's late-term embrace of same-sex marriage seems to have resulted only in political benefit with no political harm. Democrats were sent to the Senate by deeply red states such as Indiana, Missouri and North Dakota, along with genuinely progressive candidates on domestic issues, including Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts and Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin, who became the first openly gay person elected to the Senate. As a cherry on the liberal cake, two of the most loathed right-wing House members Rep Joe Walsh of Illinois and Allen West of Florida were removed from office.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/07/obama-progressives-left-entitlements
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/07/obama-progressives-left-entitlements
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025041922#post10
He is not a right libertarian.
That OP, like this one, is an attempt to attack Greenwald by saying "look, he doesn't agree with DU darling Elizabeth Warren". What the OPs hope people won't notice that in both cases, Greenwald's position is on the left, and Warren is either being hawkish or just avoiding giving an opinion. Whether the Kossack who wrote it is an Obama-can-do-no-wrong-so-Greenwald-Delendum-Est die-hard who realises this, someone not intelligent enough to realise it, or even an NSA plant (yes, we should accept that the NSA, like GCHQ, will try to infiltrate online forums to alter opinion), I don't know. But I didn't think you would fall into any of those categories.
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Greenwald tries to attack Elizabeth Warren on twitter - Uses right wing source [View all]
Cali_Democrat
Jul 2014
OP
I never keep my head down. It's not my style. I always go in gunz blazing...
Cali_Democrat
Jul 2014
#3
People Need To Get It Through Their Heads, Sir: Greenwald is Not a Leftist
The Magistrate
Jul 2014
#2
You realize that what is happening here is exactly that, just the opposite POV.
cui bono
Jul 2014
#165
I die a bit inside every time someone claiming to be a "liberal" or "progressive"
anti partisan
Jul 2014
#80
All you're doing is crying about it. You might start by looking at the man's history.
MADem
Jul 2014
#98
It's uncivil to call people trolls. Welcome to DU, I recommend you read the ToS. nt
MADem
Jul 2014
#113
Agreeing that is the type of "libertarian" he is-- civil libertarian, like the ACLU.
deurbano
Jul 2014
#174
At the beginning of this thread, Greenwald was called a "right libertarian" ...
deurbano
Jul 2014
#176
Thank You! It's amazing the credibility he's given here, when he has none. n/t
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2014
#20
I guess touting the work of a Newsbusters-Breitbart-CNSNews lackey passes for "credibility"
MADem
Jul 2014
#146
Does it bother anyone else that these are our "secrets", but GG's the only one getting rich? So much
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2014
#150
Actually he's not, but let's say he was, is one's political affilation a crime now
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#77
Well, I wasn't asking you what you thought of his writing style, I was asking if you
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#85
I know, it's so transparant, not to mention we KNOW that a contract was out on
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#83
But Ron Paul wouldn't be wanting a position from Warren on the subject
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#181
That Would Depend, Sir, On Whether He wanted To Make Trouble For Democrats At The Moment
The Magistrate
Jul 2014
#182
Greenwald is a fan of Warren, when it comes to financial regulation
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#183
What was she suppose to do, stop and resolve the Middle East Crisis, right then and there?
randys1
Jul 2014
#5
Start your own thread..and in the mean time thanks for kicking the thread on Greenwald
Cha
Jul 2014
#162
Uh-oh! I think we're going to see some cognitive dissonance happening in a big way on this board!
MADem
Jul 2014
#15
It sure is, but it's not easy when a guy touted as a hero is shown to be the Libertarian
MADem
Jul 2014
#40
If Warren ever plans to run for Prez, she needs to get some foreign policy experience
Larkspur
Jul 2014
#18
He's what he's always been; an opportunist who's all about Glen Greenwald
mountain grammy
Jul 2014
#21
Yes, and this has been known for some time. But some like sticking their head in the sand. N/T
Chathamization
Jul 2014
#134
He's not a Democrat, he's as Magistrate describes him--he gets no special protections here.
MADem
Jul 2014
#39
Good Post, I agree, lots of the information given appears to be trying to hurt the DNC, what gives.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2014
#57
As Hartmann used to say, "A libertarian is just a Republican who wants to get laid & smoke dope".
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2014
#132
He said she was one of the "genuinely progressive candidates on domestic issues"
Chathamization
Jul 2014
#136
"Hell, we probably don't get them anyway". Another truth. This is a great thread.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2014
#133
Nobody has "to smear" Greenwald. Him and his stupid "Gotcha" moments do that all on his own.
Cha
Jul 2014
#74
Yeah, Greenwald is his own worst enemy.. a freaking opportunist always ready to ratfuck Dems.
Cha
Jul 2014
#96
Funny, I could have sworn the question was if you had any opinion on the NSA.
cui bono
Jul 2014
#166
No one is preventing you from starting a thread on that topic--but in this thread, the topic is
MADem
Jul 2014
#100
Click on the link, and scroll down just a few lines; GG's offending tweet leads the parade. nt
MADem
Jul 2014
#110
What a load of...ahem...misleading crap starting at square one. What attack?
TheKentuckian
Jul 2014
#118
I love Elizabeth. Where's the attack? I see someone asking a perfectly acceptable question.
Autumn
Jul 2014
#125
Why don't you google that "someone" and then come back with how "reasonable" he is.
MADem
Jul 2014
#145
Go on ahead and mitigate his attempt at a sandbag. Surprised he didn't try to buttonhole her in the
MADem
Jul 2014
#155