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In reply to the discussion: Apologists for Hamas should repudiate lack of morality [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)17. Hamas already did offer a cease-fire and ten year truce
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/deafening-silence-proposal.html
Israel prefers to maintain the illegal siege.
The main demands of this proposal revolve around lifting the Israeli siege in Gaza through the opening of its borders with Israel to commerce and people, the establishment of an international seaport and airport under U.N. supervision, the expansion of the permitted fishing zone in the Gaza sea to 10 kilometers, and the revitalization of Gaza industrial zone. None of these demands is new. The United Nations among others have repeatedly demanded the lifting of the siege, which is illegal under international law, as a necessary condition to end the dire humanitarian situation in the Strip. The facilitation of movement of goods and people between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip had already been stipulated in the Agreement on Movement and Access (AMA) signed between the Government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority in 2005. Even the construction of a port and the possibility of an airport in Gaza had already been stipulated in the AMA, though the actual implementation never followed. The requested increase of the permitted fishing zone is less than what envisaged in the 1994 Oslo Agreements and it was already part of the 2012 ceasefire understanding. Unhindered fishermens access to the sea, without fear of being shot or arrested and having boats and nets confiscated by Israeli patrols is essential to the 3000 Gaza fishermen struggling to survive today by fishing in a limited area which is overfished and heavily polluted. The revitalization of the Gaza industrial zone, which has progressively been dismantled since the 2005 disengagement and by continuous military operations, was already considered a crucial Palestinian interest at the time of the 2005 Disengagement.
Israel prefers to maintain the illegal siege.
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Some people seem to think they can just say 'it's hamas' in order to absolve Israel.
bravenak
Jul 2014
#68
There's no implying required. They were celebrating the bombing of Gaza...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#79
Notice his resemblence to The Ugly Duchess painted by the Flemish artist Quentin Matsys around 1513?
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#26
Yeah, it's odd-- oppose NSA domestic spying and the same people will call you a Paulite, because
Marr
Jul 2014
#37
It is extremely unlikely that Israeli would support a Hamas-Iran negotiated ceasefire.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#28
Yeah, you're right. Negotiations have NOTHING to do with the terms of the agreement being discussed.
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#30
Re: Hamas' terms for a ten-year ceasefire (from an Egyptian's viewpoint) --->
Petrushka
Jul 2014
#101
Yes, the Israel-Egypt ceasefire constructed by two enemies of Hamas, without their consultation.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#27
Let's negotiate a ceasefire for oneshooter. I propose he not be let out of the Gungeon ever again.
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#29
'Here's the difference between us, we're using missile defense to protect our civilians,
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#38
This conflict is the inevitable outcome of a political situation in which an entire sector of the
Maedhros
Jul 2014
#42
While some points are worth arguing, Krauthammer, really? Unhinged Obama hater, totally twisted.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#44
So Krauthammer thinks anyone who criticises Israel is a Hamas apologist...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#76
Dim. Your measuring stick is missing combined with good and expensive defense being effective
TheKentuckian
Jul 2014
#96
It has been addressed. It's an ignorant RW biased question, not based in reality. nt
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#109
Well, for starters, shelling a school being used as a shelter or a hospital treating...
Spazito
Jul 2014
#122
Krauthammer didn't defend Snowden, didn't slam privatization, didn't take social sec. off the table
whereisjustice
Jul 2014
#120
Fuck Hamas. Fuck Likud, and their even viler coalition partner Jewish Home. Fuck Krauthammer and all
LeftishBrit
Jul 2014
#124
Rocket firing Hamas militants are idiotic criminals who need to be arrested, tried, and
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2014
#126