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bravenak

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89. I figured you had close ties to the area.

Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:13 AM

Jul 2014

It is time to bury old hatreds for our children. Gaza also has a gun to it's head, it's been there for years. Both sides deserve the same chance for self determination. Most of Gaza is young, much younger than in many parts of the world. They were not old enough to vote for Hamas. They weren't alive back in the day. We have multiple generations of Palestinians growing up under Israeli control. It is time to let go of Palestine. Otherwise Israel will not exist in 50 years. Not enough births. And too many young Palestinians growing up under a brutal occupation, getting bombed every few years.

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Apologists for Hamas should repudiate lack of morality [View all] oneshooter Jul 2014 OP

Are the facts presented true? Or are they otherwise. Xipe Totec Jul 2014 #1

Israeli propaganda alert! Geez--Krauthammer? You going that low? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #2

+1!!! 2naSalit Jul 2014 #106

Who is bombing those children? JaneyVee Jul 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jul 2014 #4

Charles 'Fox News' Krauthammer? bravenak Jul 2014 #5

They are pushing us RobertEarl Jul 2014 #7

Please!! bravenak Jul 2014 #12

It is sickening RobertEarl Jul 2014 #14

I hope people can stop thinking that killing people is reasonable. bravenak Jul 2014 #45

It isn't looking too safe, is it? RobertEarl Jul 2014 #49

I'm hoping that stopping the flights will have some effect. bravenak Jul 2014 #51

Flights have been resumed. MADem Jul 2014 #56

I hope they don't have any issues with rockets. bravenak Jul 2014 #57

That's probably good advice any day of the week in any part of the globe... nt MADem Jul 2014 #59

Especially to see on the pages of DU malaise Jul 2014 #53

it always feels good to have a boogeyman. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #116

I know right! Like the pro Rus-Si-A assholes pushing for civil war in Ukraine snooper2 Jul 2014 #85

Awwww - how awful leftynyc Jul 2014 #61

I am so sure you've lived a life of danger. bravenak Jul 2014 #62

I've already put in my order, thanks for asking leftynyc Jul 2014 #63

But you seemed soooo worried about me! bravenak Jul 2014 #64

I don't wear makeup leftynyc Jul 2014 #66

Some people seem to think they can just say 'it's hamas' in order to absolve Israel. bravenak Jul 2014 #68

But yet I only see you condemning one side leftynyc Jul 2014 #69

If Hamas was killing hundreds of civilians and i saw it. bravenak Jul 2014 #72

It's not that easy leftynyc Jul 2014 #75

I understand. bravenak Jul 2014 #78

You're wrong about us being leftynyc Jul 2014 #86

I figured you had close ties to the area. bravenak Jul 2014 #89

Agree leftynyc Jul 2014 #90

They should let us negotiate for them. bravenak Jul 2014 #93

The hardliners are in charge leftynyc Jul 2014 #95

Another point of agreement. bravenak Jul 2014 #97

I just let my mind wander leftynyc Jul 2014 #100

Feels so hopeless. bravenak Jul 2014 #103

Glad you included the link leftynyc Jul 2014 #107

You both captured how I feel about this mess Aerows Jul 2014 #110

Both peoples gotta stop voting in the crazy. bravenak Jul 2014 #123

Look at these terrified Israelis Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #65

Hey, if you want to condemn leftynyc Jul 2014 #67

You want to put words in my mouth to win an internet arguement Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #71

Are you going to try leftynyc Jul 2014 #74

There's no implying required. They were celebrating the bombing of Gaza... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #79

Their money? I don't think so. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #84

Both sides have benefitted leftynyc Jul 2014 #87

The truth hurts? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #91

I tend to agree with you flamingdem Jul 2014 #33

No kidding LittleBlue Jul 2014 #15

Notice his resemblence to The Ugly Duchess painted by the Flemish artist Quentin Matsys around 1513? Electric Monk Jul 2014 #26

lol MFM008 Jul 2014 #39

OMG LittleBlue Jul 2014 #41

!!! uncanny! delrem Jul 2014 #114

I have noticed lots of righty stuff in GD lately. bravenak Jul 2014 #46

Yeah, it's odd-- oppose NSA domestic spying and the same people will call you a Paulite, because Marr Jul 2014 #37

That IS crazy. bravenak Jul 2014 #47

Those facts are debatable but SHOULD be debated. Bonobo Jul 2014 #6

Thanks Bonobo RobertEarl Jul 2014 #8

If Iran and Hamas proposed a cease-fire would Isreal stop firing? nt killbotfactory Jul 2014 #10

It would depend on the terms of the ceasefire. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #11

It's no use Bonobo. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #25

It is extremely unlikely that Israeli would support a Hamas-Iran negotiated ceasefire. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #28

Yeah, you're right. Negotiations have NOTHING to do with the terms of the agreement being discussed. Bonobo Jul 2014 #30

Ceasefire negotiations logically must be between fighting factions. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #31

I misread your post. I thought it said Hamas-Israel negotiated ceasefire. Bonobo Jul 2014 #32

Re: Hamas' terms for a ten-year ceasefire (from an Egyptian's viewpoint) ---> Petrushka Jul 2014 #101

Hamas already did offer a cease-fire and ten year truce cpwm17 Jul 2014 #17

+1000 rateyes Jul 2014 #119

I don't think 2 is true. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #128

Why didn't the IDF destroy the tunnels from the Israeli side? killbotfactory Jul 2014 #9

To collect the rockets, no? nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #13

K&R for exposure and poster comments alone. Good job!~ eom Purveyor Jul 2014 #16

Cool, foxnewsunderground! n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #18

I just wish people Aerows Jul 2014 #19

Krauthammer! Really! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #20

I don't know, hrmjustin Aerows Jul 2014 #23

You're a good person, Aerows. defacto7 Jul 2014 #34

The whole thing is a mess and so sad. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #83

Indeed it is. n/t Aerows Jul 2014 #108

K&R egduj Jul 2014 #21

Nice hit and run! nt Logical Jul 2014 #22

Maybe you can tell us what Dick Cheney has to say next Bjorn Against Jul 2014 #24

Cheney sickens normal people Aerows Jul 2014 #43

I agree. bravenak Jul 2014 #48

Yes, the Israel-Egypt ceasefire constructed by two enemies of Hamas, without their consultation. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #27

Let's negotiate a ceasefire for oneshooter. I propose he not be let out of the Gungeon ever again. Electric Monk Jul 2014 #29

Most People Probably Think That Hamas And Egypt Are Buddies Liberal_Dog Jul 2014 #98

Here's the real difference between them: Marr Jul 2014 #35

This is Israel vs. Hamas defacto7 Jul 2014 #36

'Here's the difference between us, we're using missile defense to protect our civilians, sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #40

This conflict is the inevitable outcome of a political situation in which an entire sector of the Maedhros Jul 2014 #42

While some points are worth arguing, Krauthammer, really? Unhinged Obama hater, totally twisted. freshwest Jul 2014 #44

Right-wing apologists for Israel should fuck off mwrguy Jul 2014 #50

piss on charles Krauthammer KG Jul 2014 #52

Right back at you intaglio Jul 2014 #54

Israel is now bombing hospitals to rubble? AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #55

3 of them, so far. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #99

israeli apologists show how morally bankrupt they are. politicman Jul 2014 #58

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #111

Every now and then... sendero Jul 2014 #60

Anyone who can't see that is willfully blind. randome Jul 2014 #70

Personally, to quote Shakespeare "A plague on both your houses" hobbit709 Jul 2014 #73

So Krauthammer thinks anyone who criticises Israel is a Hamas apologist... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #76

Same mentality that was used to call all of us opposed to bullwinkle428 Jul 2014 #80

It is a very similar mentality n/t Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #81

Good observation. Pholus Jul 2014 #127

updated total 738 palistinians dead--that is like 3 plan loads.... dembotoz Jul 2014 #77

there is zero excuse for killing civilians by anyone, any time, anywhere. G_j Jul 2014 #82

Horseshit. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #88

Dim. Your measuring stick is missing combined with good and expensive defense being effective TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #96

They are otherwise Marrah_G Jul 2014 #92

They bombed a UN-run school for refugees ... LannyDeVaney Jul 2014 #94

Krauthammer, really? abelenkpe Jul 2014 #102

Over 100 replies................ oneshooter Jul 2014 #104

It has been addressed. It's an ignorant RW biased question, not based in reality. nt Electric Monk Jul 2014 #109

No one cares what Charles Krauthammer thinks LittleBlue Jul 2014 #117

kick samsingh Jul 2014 #105

Is this still DU, LWolf Jul 2014 #112

Not working very well, is it?? kentuck Jul 2014 #113

What facts? DeSwiss Jul 2014 #115

So if the facts presented in the article are wrong..................... oneshooter Jul 2014 #118

Try this for a fact. RobertEarl Jul 2014 #121

Well, for starters, shelling a school being used as a shelter or a hospital treating... Spazito Jul 2014 #122

Krauthammer didn't defend Snowden, didn't slam privatization, didn't take social sec. off the table whereisjustice Jul 2014 #120

Fuck Hamas. Fuck Likud, and their even viler coalition partner Jewish Home. Fuck Krauthammer and all LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #124

The rec list is handy for updating ignore lists. Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #125

Rocket firing Hamas militants are idiotic criminals who need to be arrested, tried, and Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #126