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Ineeda

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120. You seem to be fighting really hard

Thu Jul 24, 2014, 03:26 PM

Jul 2014

to defend your (and the NRA) position here. I'm making an assumption, I know, but based on what I've been reading from you, I doubt you are doing anything at all to make our world safer from gun violence. Any rational person would agree that incidents like these are totally unacceptable: this young girl whose life is changed forever, a dead dad in movie theater, a dead kid who listened to loud music in his own car, 26 slaughtered little kids and caregivers in an elementary school, and other hundreds or thousands of maimed or dead people suffering firearm accidents and deliberate acts. Families and friends and survivors horrifically damaged. So....what are you doing? Are you working toward better/more thorough background checks, or to limit magazine size, or gun lock requirements? Anything? Bueller? Bueller? Or are you too busy defending the indefensible with Right Wing/NRA talking points?

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Minnesota man guns down teen girl after she asks him to stop riding lawnmower in her yard [View all] geardaddy Jul 2014 OP

Guns are handy. onehandle Jul 2014 #1

yes!!! lunasun Jul 2014 #144

put this asshole away�. dhill926 Jul 2014 #2

Relax, he was just standing someone else's ground. 11 Bravo Jul 2014 #113

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #123

While I agree that he was a coward, please consider another term Fawke Em Jul 2014 #134

You just don't understand how frightening 17 year old girls are. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #147

Sexism?!? chervilant Jul 2014 #155

Standard fare sarisataka Jul 2014 #165

Thanks, chervilant Jul 2014 #166

I agree... yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #143

He shouldn't have bail either. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #151

You think "Open Carry" will support this guy? Archae Jul 2014 #3

as long as he supports guns millions will support whatever he does samsingh Jul 2014 #228

damn 3 shots with a .45 d_r Jul 2014 #4

Unfortunately Aerows Jul 2014 #149

sorry d_r Jul 2014 #174

I shot the lawn and the lawn won Aerows Jul 2014 #175

Very McCainish! nt valerief Jul 2014 #200

first thing that came to my mind as soon as as saw the photo TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #187

Obviously got into that line of work because of his love of children. n/t malthaussen Jul 2014 #5

Anyone wishing to use dark humor on DU should petronius Jul 2014 #16

Wonder why he left (or was fired) from his job in June? Beaverhausen Jul 2014 #6

Looks like he was in treatment for PTSD KurtNYC Jul 2014 #19

Thank goodness she survived. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #7

Isn't it strange to feel relief, in a way, after reading an article like this? StevieM Jul 2014 #168

This case is indicative of the gun mentality...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #8

This case is NOT indicative of the gun mentality. IronGate Jul 2014 #13

So he'll just buy a gun from a private owner.... blueamy66 Jul 2014 #21

And if he gets caught, IronGate Jul 2014 #25

Funny mikeysnot Jul 2014 #38

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there shouldn't be an organization pimping for gun humpers Skittles Jul 2014 #129

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LOL "SOME PEOPLE" Skittles Jul 2014 #133

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Are you saying guns MythosMaster Jul 2014 #140

oh but of course! Skittles Jul 2014 #141

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Yeah Mikey, if he gets caught, IronGate Jul 2014 #53

Except with every other crime committed... gcomeau Jul 2014 #128

So what? lark Jul 2014 #68

So what's your solution? IronGate Jul 2014 #72

1 - the constitution does not say what the felonious five claim it does. lark Jul 2014 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #111

Don't expect an answer.. sendero Jul 2014 #125

The background check. He has PTSD and was being treated at the VA JimDandy Jul 2014 #163

And track the serial numbers of the guns, so that when a owner sells his firearm privately LiberalArkie Jul 2014 #170

The solution is a major attitude change WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2014 #116

This^^ blueamy66 Jul 2014 #117

DING-DING-DING! IronGate Jul 2014 #119

lots of cowards in the "home of the brave" Skittles Jul 2014 #130

Are they cowards, or just paranoid? demwing Jul 2014 #195

both Skittles Jul 2014 #217

No. Not both. demwing Jul 2014 #218

I own several guns and none of them were acquired out of fear. Jenoch Jul 2014 #136

You seem to be fighting really hard Ineeda Jul 2014 #120

How about repealing the STUPID SECOND AMENDMENT! Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #196

Fine, IronGate Jul 2014 #205

Oh, I know it's not going to happen Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #215

The best way to address the proliferation of firearms IronGate Jul 2014 #216

oh really heaven05 Jul 2014 #56

Yeah, really. IronGate Jul 2014 #62

Idiots with legal heaven05 Jul 2014 #75

IOW, you can't disprove me with facts, but thanks for proving my point. IronGate Jul 2014 #80

you're heaven05 Jul 2014 #84

You have a nice day also. IronGate Jul 2014 #85

Pulling stats out of your ass don't make it so. savalez Jul 2014 #81

Instead of posting nonsensical insults, IronGate Jul 2014 #83

Nonsensical? Ha! savalez Jul 2014 #90

I have, but apparently, IronGate Jul 2014 #92

It would appear that IronGate's mind is made up Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #198

Believe what you will, it makes no difference to me. IronGate Jul 2014 #207

How many people Bortman33 Jul 2014 #135

Well, that's pretty easy, none. IronGate Jul 2014 #138

The framers did not have minds closed Bortman33 Jul 2014 #222

That's really cute, using my username as a sort of insult. IronGate Jul 2014 #223

Either you are feigning Bortman33 Jul 2014 #224

I have given it a try, many times, IronGate Jul 2014 #225

Anger issues plus a handy gun equals gun violence,the leading cause of death in 16 states, but you Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #96

1, I don't play with guns, that's a good way to get myself or someone else hurt. IronGate Jul 2014 #97

Oh wow, now he gets no gun, awesome, tell that to the thrice shot with a gun teen. 99.9% of Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #103

I don't need to, the justice system will. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #104

But many gun nuts would. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #148

and he will obey that law just like demigoddess Jul 2014 #157

How precious. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #162

keep trying, someone might actually believe what is in your post. niyad Jul 2014 #178

I could care less if people believe it or not, IronGate Jul 2014 #184

Yeah but that moronic one in a thousand makes the other 999 look really, really bad. Pholus Jul 2014 #203

However "She also said that he often carried a pistol with him on the lawnmower." is though.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #183

Your post is indicative of a smear. You can do that... Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #22

You don't get to define what is liberal. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #58

You don't get a free pass for your notion of "liberalism." Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #78

Guns deserve all the animosity and prejudice they can garner. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #121

Is it the "guns" or the "culture" which are deserving of animosity? Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #190

To be clear, fuck guns and gun culture. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #193

I think it's more indicative of lawn-mower mentality mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #36

Lawn mower wouldn't kill her lark Jul 2014 #71

If he were angry enough mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #126

Wrong. It's indicative of a horrible human being. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #55

I would narrow that down to the open carry, pro NRA mentality ecstatic Jul 2014 #63

It is rampant stupidity. freebrew Jul 2014 #99

Good points! nt abelenkpe Jul 2014 #95

WTF?! sakabatou Jul 2014 #9

WT FUCK would he have needed liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #10

GET OFF HER LAWN, Asshole! Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #11

Just another good guy with a gun.... oh wait. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #12

Beat me to it. obxhead Jul 2014 #48

remember kids - an armed society is a polite society! KG Jul 2014 #14

Sounds to me like substance abuse problems are involved. This guy needs a prison quiet time. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #15

Um, IMO his kids growing up w/o him would be a GOOD thing. Laffy Kat Jul 2014 #20

Indeed. His kids are probably breathing a sigh of relief right now, even if Nay Jul 2014 #87

He stood her ground. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #17

Ouch, that was terrible! mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #33

DUzy n/t geardaddy Jul 2014 #42

Sounds like he mowed it jberryhill Jul 2014 #57

You beat me to it! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #60

Stop already with the sick humor. n/t RebelOne Jul 2014 #91

Actually, a pun is not necessarily intended to be humorous. That's on you. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #100

I was trying to put it that way liberal N proud Jul 2014 #102

the nra and the gunfreaks will fight for his right to keep on carrying leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #18

That's a fucking lie. IronGate Jul 2014 #27

Which is why the NRA comes out against any attempt to limit private sales jeff47 Jul 2014 #32

And tried to block many of the mechanisms needed to enforce such laws. riqster Jul 2014 #35

Those are states issues. IronGate Jul 2014 #49

Shouldn't be a state issue. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #61

Get rid of the fucking handguns? IronGate Jul 2014 #65

Amend the constitution if necessary HERVEPA Jul 2014 #73

That's the correct way, but you do know that it would take only 13 states to reject IronGate Jul 2014 #77

I know. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #114

LOL. IronGate Jul 2014 #115

"The strongest argument for gun control is found in the 2nd amendment itself, which reads Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #152

What is you plan to "...get rid of the fucking handguns."? Jenoch Jul 2014 #109

And the NRA is zealously working at the state level to enact those checks? riqster Jul 2014 #107

As far as I know, the NRA is opposed to a federal UBC, IronGate Jul 2014 #108

Must not read much. jeff47 Jul 2014 #177

As I said, I wasn't sure. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #180

Sure enough to say things like "fucking lie" upthread, though. riqster Jul 2014 #199

What I said upthread is true, it's a fucking lie IronGate Jul 2014 #206

Bollocks. You responded to this general statement: riqster Jul 2014 #208

Bollocks. IronGate Jul 2014 #209

Again, you are tripping over your own words. riqster Jul 2014 #210

Maybe you missed the part where I said IronGate Jul 2014 #211

It isn't a question of "belief". It's reality, and you cannot refute it. riqster Jul 2014 #212

fail... mikeysnot Jul 2014 #39

Such a brilliant reply. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #44

Yeah, the NRA cares so much about people getting shot! lark Jul 2014 #74

But vehemently opposes closing the "gun show loophole". Ikonoklast Jul 2014 #214

and shooting. AlinPA Jul 2014 #156

Pickering had been employed at the Northwestern Minnesota Juvenile Center as a corrections worker.. Cal Carpenter Jul 2014 #23

Gotta wonder about that Juvenile "rehabilitation". Trillo Jul 2014 #40

Good police work. Eric J in MN Jul 2014 #24

Cops are pretty smart, they've probably seen this before. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #30

Well, the most important thing is that his gun rights were not infringed... Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #26

Fun rights? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #28

Oops. Now that was a typo. Will fix. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #29

If she had been armed, he wouldn't have been able to sneak up on her and shoot her arcane1 Jul 2014 #31

Another responsible gun owner...., madinmaryland Jul 2014 #34

I wonder how he'll "stand his ground" in prison? FlyByNight Jul 2014 #37

Teen gets shot, daughters lose their father. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #41

Actually, I think it might be a good thing for his daughter to be distanced from him. progressoid Jul 2014 #79

+1 redqueen Jul 2014 #86

Yup. That fact that this gun-toting lawnmower-riding male thought it was Nay Jul 2014 #94

Yep Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #106

+2 davidpdx Jul 2014 #221

With a father like this, their lives might now be safer. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #98

Nice flag @ 25 seconds into the video Blecht Jul 2014 #43

Yeah, I saw that. geardaddy Jul 2014 #54

Bemidji is a great town and a great place to live. Jenoch Jul 2014 #70

What "issues" do the victim's family have and how is that relevant? Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #93

The symbol of racism is always relevant Blecht Jul 2014 #124

Where do ypu live and what do you really know about Bemidji? Jenoch Jul 2014 #150

Do you always sarisataka Jul 2014 #161

WTF?! blackspade Jul 2014 #46

at least he had a good reason Enrique Jul 2014 #47

2nd Amendment MythosMaster Jul 2014 #50

geez!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #51

This is why I *never* directly confront trespassing neighbors magical thyme Jul 2014 #52

In a few years, shows like "What Would You Do" won't be possible ecstatic Jul 2014 #66

Good Lord, that poor girl! Inkfreak Jul 2014 #59

As if Michele Bachmann wasn't an embarrassment enough to this state.. LW1977 Jul 2014 #64

Yeah, tell me again how guns protect folks. lark Jul 2014 #67

on top of all that onethatcares Jul 2014 #69

yea we need to teach our kids to keep away from guns and other things negoldie Jul 2014 #82

Yeah, dildos kill people. n/t geardaddy Jul 2014 #118

Bemidji catchnrelease Jul 2014 #88

Freedom! He was just standing his ground...he felt threatened! joeybee12 Jul 2014 #89

thanx NRA! Botany Jul 2014 #101

Another responsible gun owner, until he decided not to be anymore. Rex Jul 2014 #105

Yet another "good guy with a gun" exercising his freedumb!11!! myrna minx Jul 2014 #110

Guns may not kill but idiots with guns sure can. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #112

And people kill people. WITH GUNS. calimary Jul 2014 #186

What the fuckity fuck! Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2014 #122

That's why we have a "well-regulated militia" folks. tabasco Jul 2014 #127

What an asshole WI_DEM Jul 2014 #131

See? His right to carry his gun protected his right to tresspass Doctor_J Jul 2014 #139

post at link said his facebook was big Rw anti Obama and 2A stuff . NOT surprised if true lunasun Jul 2014 #145

Gun rights nut? Enthusiast Jul 2014 #146

There's a difference? (nt) paleotn Jul 2014 #154

let me guess-- demigoddess Jul 2014 #153

Obviously we need more guns...in this case the woman needed one and now that the NRA randys1 Jul 2014 #158

I bet he was..... paleotn Jul 2014 #159

Forget about jail for these guys - TBF Jul 2014 #160

They would probably be treated like VIPs at NRA HQ. AlinPA Jul 2014 #176

This wouldn't have happened if he didn't have a gun Renew Deal Jul 2014 #164

Yet another Bartlet Jul 2014 #167

We don't need any gun control laws, no way no how SummerSnow Jul 2014 #169

If only he'd had an automatic, this would never have happened. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Jul 2014 #171

Or as Sheriff Joe would say czarjak Jul 2014 #172

The man is a registered Republican and a dedicated Conservative nikto Jul 2014 #173

We don't have party registration in Minnesota so that can't be checked dflprincess Jul 2014 #179

Not hard to guess... nikto Jul 2014 #220

I love DU, but will never understand the unforgiving love of guns that crops up. C Moon Jul 2014 #181

Sick weirdo. nt Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #182

It's Nice To See... supercats Jul 2014 #185

I hope she brings a civil suit against the creep, and sues his drawers off. raccoon Jul 2014 #188

There have been a lot of families TBF Jul 2014 #194

That a$$hole laid in wait for her! vlyons Jul 2014 #189

An armed society is a polite society, you know! Scootaloo Jul 2014 #191

Have gun - will shoot. n/t Chemisse Jul 2014 #192

ban all guns. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #197

I'm afraid to leave Massachusetts. nt valerief Jul 2014 #201

I can understand Mr. Pickering packing a firearm while mowing lawn. bulloney Jul 2014 #202

Wow! Another gun doing its job keeping us all safe. PatrickforO Jul 2014 #204

This incident along with a lot of other stuff lately has me thinking about this 70's song now! cascadiance Jul 2014 #213

No kidding. AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #219

Typical gun owner philip.chinery Jul 2014 #226

another gun loving asshole who i hope rots in jail or gets the death penalty samsingh Jul 2014 #227