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madfloridian

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33. Blogger Peter Greene comments on Campbell Brown's crusade against teachers.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jul 2014
http://dianeravitch.net/2014/07/08/peter-greene-explains-what-campbell-brown-doesnt-know-about-schools/

He writes:

“Tenure– NY makes teachers wait three years and eighteen observations for tenure. This is the most obvious difference between the New York case and Vergara (California was awarding tenure after less time). This is a hard argument to make– if an administrator can’t tell whether or not she’s got a keeper after three years and eighteen observations, that administrator needs to go get a job selling real estate or groceries, because, damn!


Yeah, but FL teachers had to wait 3 years for due process rights....and they lost them in 2011. No new teachers in Florida have any job security.

“On the plus side, I look forward to Brown’s accompanying argument that all New York schools should be barred from ever again hiring Teach for America two-year contract temps. If it takes more than three years to determine if a teacher is any good, then clearly TFA is a waste of everybody’s time. Do let me know when Brown brings that up.

“Dismissals– Too long, too hard. I’m not in New York, so I don’t know the real numbers here. This was the weakest part of the state’s case in Vergara– while you can’t rush through these proceedings, there’s no excuse for dragging them out for months and years. It’s not good for either party.”

And he concludes:

“In the meantime, teachers here in the East can now look forward to a PR blitz tearing down teachers in support of a lawsuit designed to dismantle teaching as a profession. We can only hope the ultimate result will be better than the California version of this traveling circus.”

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A really loathsome couple. Brown rights wingnut op-eds while pretending to be a Democrat geek tragedy Jul 2014 #1
Good description....loathsome. madfloridian Jul 2014 #5
In fairness to them , geek tragedy Jul 2014 #6
who is the big money behind them? delrem Jul 2014 #2
Did you look at the graph from Muckety? madfloridian Jul 2014 #3
I'm still looking at it. Fascinating. delrem Jul 2014 #9
I don't think you get the point. madfloridian Jul 2014 #10
Oh well, if you think that then all is lost. delrem Jul 2014 #11
Okay, I promise to get some of my previous posts together and link to them for you. madfloridian Jul 2014 #13
I understand the interests of billionaire psychopaths. delrem Jul 2014 #14
I do not understand what you are saying. madfloridian Jul 2014 #15
I'm neither critical of it nor thinking your post is confusing. delrem Jul 2014 #18
Walton family = WalMart n/t BuelahWitch Jul 2014 #17
Come on. That isn't an answer. delrem Jul 2014 #19
Your question was "Who is the big money behind them?" BuelahWitch Jul 2014 #20
OK, I think I'm done with this thread. delrem Jul 2014 #21
Is this something you do on purpose? Because I've seen you doing it before. Squinch Jul 2014 #22
I for one am glad for that. It's an important thread, doesn't deserve being hijacked. madfloridian Jul 2014 #25
OK, I won't participate in any thread of yours again, delrem Jul 2014 #30
Just another candidate for my IL... chervilant Jul 2014 #34
So now I'm catapulted in the role of: Enemy of Teachers. delrem Jul 2014 #35
Anything for a buck. Owned boneheads. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #4
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #7
Race To The Top (Obama's Pet Baby) blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #8
Race to the bottom. nt LWolf Jul 2014 #32
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #12
Thanks for keeping your eye on the ball, mf ReRe Jul 2014 #16
Kick. Michelle Rhee wasn't real good with the PR, and look how far she got. These two are experts Squinch Jul 2014 #23
Thanks for keeping us informed... Sancho Jul 2014 #24
Well-funded hacks...good description. madfloridian Jul 2014 #26
Kick, Rec n/t Smarmie Doofus Jul 2014 #27
Campbell refuses to say who is funding her group. But Robert Gibbs on board with her. madfloridian Jul 2014 #28
Thank you MF!!! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #29
Unbelievable, aside from what we already know about that vile human being Senor, sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #31
Blogger Peter Greene comments on Campbell Brown's crusade against teachers. madfloridian Jul 2014 #33
18 observations = 3 per semester Iris Jul 2014 #39
Bump for important stuff we ignore! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #36
Thank you. madfloridian Jul 2014 #37
Thanks for the links. greatlaurel Jul 2014 #38
Thanks for the info and graphic. Rec. no text. Mc Mike Jul 2014 #40
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