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sarisataka

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165. Standard fare

Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:09 PM

Jul 2014

When it comes to guns. Usually any and all terms are fair game.
The bigger surprise was the vote actually was hide, though it was close.

[div class="excerpt"JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Jul 24, 2014, 05:45 PM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I appreciate the poster's disgust about this incident, but they could have used another, more appropriate and non-sexist word than "pussy" to express that sentiment.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sigh.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: too much political correctness. Leave it be.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I must agree with the alerting member, this could have been worded much better.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: haven't folks learned that this kind of sexism is unacceptable?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

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Minnesota man guns down teen girl after she asks him to stop riding lawnmower in her yard [View all] geardaddy Jul 2014 OP

Guns are handy. onehandle Jul 2014 #1

yes!!! lunasun Jul 2014 #144

put this asshole away�. dhill926 Jul 2014 #2

Relax, he was just standing someone else's ground. 11 Bravo Jul 2014 #113

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #123

While I agree that he was a coward, please consider another term Fawke Em Jul 2014 #134

You just don't understand how frightening 17 year old girls are. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #147

Sexism?!? chervilant Jul 2014 #155

Standard fare sarisataka Jul 2014 #165

Thanks, chervilant Jul 2014 #166

I agree... yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #143

He shouldn't have bail either. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #151

You think "Open Carry" will support this guy? Archae Jul 2014 #3

as long as he supports guns millions will support whatever he does samsingh Jul 2014 #228

damn 3 shots with a .45 d_r Jul 2014 #4

Unfortunately Aerows Jul 2014 #149

sorry d_r Jul 2014 #174

I shot the lawn and the lawn won Aerows Jul 2014 #175

Very McCainish! nt valerief Jul 2014 #200

first thing that came to my mind as soon as as saw the photo TorchTheWitch Jul 2014 #187

Obviously got into that line of work because of his love of children. n/t malthaussen Jul 2014 #5

Anyone wishing to use dark humor on DU should petronius Jul 2014 #16

Wonder why he left (or was fired) from his job in June? Beaverhausen Jul 2014 #6

Looks like he was in treatment for PTSD KurtNYC Jul 2014 #19

Thank goodness she survived. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #7

Isn't it strange to feel relief, in a way, after reading an article like this? StevieM Jul 2014 #168

This case is indicative of the gun mentality...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #8

This case is NOT indicative of the gun mentality. IronGate Jul 2014 #13

So he'll just buy a gun from a private owner.... blueamy66 Jul 2014 #21

And if he gets caught, IronGate Jul 2014 #25

Funny mikeysnot Jul 2014 #38

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there shouldn't be an organization pimping for gun humpers Skittles Jul 2014 #129

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LOL "SOME PEOPLE" Skittles Jul 2014 #133

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Are you saying guns MythosMaster Jul 2014 #140

oh but of course! Skittles Jul 2014 #141

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Yeah Mikey, if he gets caught, IronGate Jul 2014 #53

Except with every other crime committed... gcomeau Jul 2014 #128

So what? lark Jul 2014 #68

So what's your solution? IronGate Jul 2014 #72

1 - the constitution does not say what the felonious five claim it does. lark Jul 2014 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #111

Don't expect an answer.. sendero Jul 2014 #125

The background check. He has PTSD and was being treated at the VA JimDandy Jul 2014 #163

And track the serial numbers of the guns, so that when a owner sells his firearm privately LiberalArkie Jul 2014 #170

The solution is a major attitude change WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2014 #116

This^^ blueamy66 Jul 2014 #117

DING-DING-DING! IronGate Jul 2014 #119

lots of cowards in the "home of the brave" Skittles Jul 2014 #130

Are they cowards, or just paranoid? demwing Jul 2014 #195

both Skittles Jul 2014 #217

No. Not both. demwing Jul 2014 #218

I own several guns and none of them were acquired out of fear. Jenoch Jul 2014 #136

You seem to be fighting really hard Ineeda Jul 2014 #120

How about repealing the STUPID SECOND AMENDMENT! Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #196

Fine, IronGate Jul 2014 #205

Oh, I know it's not going to happen Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #215

The best way to address the proliferation of firearms IronGate Jul 2014 #216

oh really heaven05 Jul 2014 #56

Yeah, really. IronGate Jul 2014 #62

Idiots with legal heaven05 Jul 2014 #75

IOW, you can't disprove me with facts, but thanks for proving my point. IronGate Jul 2014 #80

you're heaven05 Jul 2014 #84

You have a nice day also. IronGate Jul 2014 #85

Pulling stats out of your ass don't make it so. savalez Jul 2014 #81

Instead of posting nonsensical insults, IronGate Jul 2014 #83

Nonsensical? Ha! savalez Jul 2014 #90

I have, but apparently, IronGate Jul 2014 #92

It would appear that IronGate's mind is made up Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #198

Believe what you will, it makes no difference to me. IronGate Jul 2014 #207

How many people Bortman33 Jul 2014 #135

Well, that's pretty easy, none. IronGate Jul 2014 #138

The framers did not have minds closed Bortman33 Jul 2014 #222

That's really cute, using my username as a sort of insult. IronGate Jul 2014 #223

Either you are feigning Bortman33 Jul 2014 #224

I have given it a try, many times, IronGate Jul 2014 #225

Anger issues plus a handy gun equals gun violence,the leading cause of death in 16 states, but you Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #96

1, I don't play with guns, that's a good way to get myself or someone else hurt. IronGate Jul 2014 #97

Oh wow, now he gets no gun, awesome, tell that to the thrice shot with a gun teen. 99.9% of Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #103

I don't need to, the justice system will. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #104

But many gun nuts would. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #148

and he will obey that law just like demigoddess Jul 2014 #157

How precious. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #162

keep trying, someone might actually believe what is in your post. niyad Jul 2014 #178

I could care less if people believe it or not, IronGate Jul 2014 #184

Yeah but that moronic one in a thousand makes the other 999 look really, really bad. Pholus Jul 2014 #203

However "She also said that he often carried a pistol with him on the lawnmower." is though.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #183

Your post is indicative of a smear. You can do that... Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #22

You don't get to define what is liberal. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #58

You don't get a free pass for your notion of "liberalism." Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #78

Guns deserve all the animosity and prejudice they can garner. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #121

Is it the "guns" or the "culture" which are deserving of animosity? Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #190

To be clear, fuck guns and gun culture. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #193

I think it's more indicative of lawn-mower mentality mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #36

Lawn mower wouldn't kill her lark Jul 2014 #71

If he were angry enough mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #126

Wrong. It's indicative of a horrible human being. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #55

I would narrow that down to the open carry, pro NRA mentality ecstatic Jul 2014 #63

It is rampant stupidity. freebrew Jul 2014 #99

Good points! nt abelenkpe Jul 2014 #95

WTF?! sakabatou Jul 2014 #9

WT FUCK would he have needed liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #10

GET OFF HER LAWN, Asshole! Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #11

Just another good guy with a gun.... oh wait. riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #12

Beat me to it. obxhead Jul 2014 #48

remember kids - an armed society is a polite society! KG Jul 2014 #14

Sounds to me like substance abuse problems are involved. This guy needs a prison quiet time. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #15

Um, IMO his kids growing up w/o him would be a GOOD thing. Laffy Kat Jul 2014 #20

Indeed. His kids are probably breathing a sigh of relief right now, even if Nay Jul 2014 #87

He stood her ground. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #17

Ouch, that was terrible! mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #33

DUzy n/t geardaddy Jul 2014 #42

Sounds like he mowed it jberryhill Jul 2014 #57

You beat me to it! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #60

Stop already with the sick humor. n/t RebelOne Jul 2014 #91

Actually, a pun is not necessarily intended to be humorous. That's on you. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #100

I was trying to put it that way liberal N proud Jul 2014 #102

the nra and the gunfreaks will fight for his right to keep on carrying leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #18

That's a fucking lie. IronGate Jul 2014 #27

Which is why the NRA comes out against any attempt to limit private sales jeff47 Jul 2014 #32

And tried to block many of the mechanisms needed to enforce such laws. riqster Jul 2014 #35

Those are states issues. IronGate Jul 2014 #49

Shouldn't be a state issue. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #61

Get rid of the fucking handguns? IronGate Jul 2014 #65

Amend the constitution if necessary HERVEPA Jul 2014 #73

That's the correct way, but you do know that it would take only 13 states to reject IronGate Jul 2014 #77

I know. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #114

LOL. IronGate Jul 2014 #115

"The strongest argument for gun control is found in the 2nd amendment itself, which reads Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #152

What is you plan to "...get rid of the fucking handguns."? Jenoch Jul 2014 #109

And the NRA is zealously working at the state level to enact those checks? riqster Jul 2014 #107

As far as I know, the NRA is opposed to a federal UBC, IronGate Jul 2014 #108

Must not read much. jeff47 Jul 2014 #177

As I said, I wasn't sure. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #180

Sure enough to say things like "fucking lie" upthread, though. riqster Jul 2014 #199

What I said upthread is true, it's a fucking lie IronGate Jul 2014 #206

Bollocks. You responded to this general statement: riqster Jul 2014 #208

Bollocks. IronGate Jul 2014 #209

Again, you are tripping over your own words. riqster Jul 2014 #210

Maybe you missed the part where I said IronGate Jul 2014 #211

It isn't a question of "belief". It's reality, and you cannot refute it. riqster Jul 2014 #212

fail... mikeysnot Jul 2014 #39

Such a brilliant reply. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #44

Yeah, the NRA cares so much about people getting shot! lark Jul 2014 #74

But vehemently opposes closing the "gun show loophole". Ikonoklast Jul 2014 #214

and shooting. AlinPA Jul 2014 #156

Pickering had been employed at the Northwestern Minnesota Juvenile Center as a corrections worker.. Cal Carpenter Jul 2014 #23

Gotta wonder about that Juvenile "rehabilitation". Trillo Jul 2014 #40

Good police work. Eric J in MN Jul 2014 #24

Cops are pretty smart, they've probably seen this before. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #30

Well, the most important thing is that his gun rights were not infringed... Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #26

Fun rights? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #28

Oops. Now that was a typo. Will fix. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #29

If she had been armed, he wouldn't have been able to sneak up on her and shoot her arcane1 Jul 2014 #31

Another responsible gun owner...., madinmaryland Jul 2014 #34

I wonder how he'll "stand his ground" in prison? FlyByNight Jul 2014 #37

Teen gets shot, daughters lose their father. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #41

Actually, I think it might be a good thing for his daughter to be distanced from him. progressoid Jul 2014 #79

+1 redqueen Jul 2014 #86

Yup. That fact that this gun-toting lawnmower-riding male thought it was Nay Jul 2014 #94

Yep Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #106

+2 davidpdx Jul 2014 #221

With a father like this, their lives might now be safer. IdaBriggs Jul 2014 #98

Nice flag @ 25 seconds into the video Blecht Jul 2014 #43

Yeah, I saw that. geardaddy Jul 2014 #54

Bemidji is a great town and a great place to live. Jenoch Jul 2014 #70

What "issues" do the victim's family have and how is that relevant? Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #93

The symbol of racism is always relevant Blecht Jul 2014 #124

Where do ypu live and what do you really know about Bemidji? Jenoch Jul 2014 #150

Do you always sarisataka Jul 2014 #161

WTF?! blackspade Jul 2014 #46

at least he had a good reason Enrique Jul 2014 #47

2nd Amendment MythosMaster Jul 2014 #50

geez!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #51

This is why I *never* directly confront trespassing neighbors magical thyme Jul 2014 #52

In a few years, shows like "What Would You Do" won't be possible ecstatic Jul 2014 #66

Good Lord, that poor girl! Inkfreak Jul 2014 #59

As if Michele Bachmann wasn't an embarrassment enough to this state.. LW1977 Jul 2014 #64

Yeah, tell me again how guns protect folks. lark Jul 2014 #67

on top of all that onethatcares Jul 2014 #69

yea we need to teach our kids to keep away from guns and other things negoldie Jul 2014 #82

Yeah, dildos kill people. n/t geardaddy Jul 2014 #118

Bemidji catchnrelease Jul 2014 #88

Freedom! He was just standing his ground...he felt threatened! joeybee12 Jul 2014 #89

thanx NRA! Botany Jul 2014 #101

Another responsible gun owner, until he decided not to be anymore. Rex Jul 2014 #105

Yet another "good guy with a gun" exercising his freedumb!11!! myrna minx Jul 2014 #110

Guns may not kill but idiots with guns sure can. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #112

And people kill people. WITH GUNS. calimary Jul 2014 #186

What the fuckity fuck! Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2014 #122

That's why we have a "well-regulated militia" folks. tabasco Jul 2014 #127

What an asshole WI_DEM Jul 2014 #131

See? His right to carry his gun protected his right to tresspass Doctor_J Jul 2014 #139

post at link said his facebook was big Rw anti Obama and 2A stuff . NOT surprised if true lunasun Jul 2014 #145

Gun rights nut? Enthusiast Jul 2014 #146

There's a difference? (nt) paleotn Jul 2014 #154

let me guess-- demigoddess Jul 2014 #153

Obviously we need more guns...in this case the woman needed one and now that the NRA randys1 Jul 2014 #158

I bet he was..... paleotn Jul 2014 #159

Forget about jail for these guys - TBF Jul 2014 #160

They would probably be treated like VIPs at NRA HQ. AlinPA Jul 2014 #176

This wouldn't have happened if he didn't have a gun Renew Deal Jul 2014 #164

Yet another Bartlet Jul 2014 #167

We don't need any gun control laws, no way no how SummerSnow Jul 2014 #169

If only he'd had an automatic, this would never have happened. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Jul 2014 #171

Or as Sheriff Joe would say czarjak Jul 2014 #172

The man is a registered Republican and a dedicated Conservative nikto Jul 2014 #173

We don't have party registration in Minnesota so that can't be checked dflprincess Jul 2014 #179

Not hard to guess... nikto Jul 2014 #220

I love DU, but will never understand the unforgiving love of guns that crops up. C Moon Jul 2014 #181

Sick weirdo. nt Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #182

It's Nice To See... supercats Jul 2014 #185

I hope she brings a civil suit against the creep, and sues his drawers off. raccoon Jul 2014 #188

There have been a lot of families TBF Jul 2014 #194

That a$$hole laid in wait for her! vlyons Jul 2014 #189

An armed society is a polite society, you know! Scootaloo Jul 2014 #191

Have gun - will shoot. n/t Chemisse Jul 2014 #192

ban all guns. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #197

I'm afraid to leave Massachusetts. nt valerief Jul 2014 #201

I can understand Mr. Pickering packing a firearm while mowing lawn. bulloney Jul 2014 #202

Wow! Another gun doing its job keeping us all safe. PatrickforO Jul 2014 #204

This incident along with a lot of other stuff lately has me thinking about this 70's song now! cascadiance Jul 2014 #213

No kidding. AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #219

Typical gun owner philip.chinery Jul 2014 #226

another gun loving asshole who i hope rots in jail or gets the death penalty samsingh Jul 2014 #227