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In reply to the discussion: "He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out" [View all]Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)42. "Having a temper" is what you posted as what was said about GZ.
He had a temper and he became a liability, the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying.
That's what you posted.
Whether he had a temper or "anger management issues" as you diagnosed, is in the eye of the beholder, unless you have been examined & diagnosed by a psychiatrist or psychologist.
That's my point. How could a gun shop determine whether a man "has a temper" or "anger management issues." As a practical matter, it would be very hard to do, if possible at all. The co-worker said he had a temper. That can be said about most of the men in the country, besides being a subjective and non-expert opinion.
That's why gun ownership goes by criminal conviction record and things like that. That is a definite thing that can be checked.
I'd also disagree that most men with anger management issues kill people. There again, you get into trying to determine who in the popoulation qualifies as having "anger management issues." Do you have a list of those people?
The problem, IMO, is not the gun. It was that this guy had some issues that everyone knew about, but no one did anything about it. It was foreseeable that an overzealous guy roaming the neighborhood with a loaded weapon would end up hurting or killing someone. And no one intervened. Incl. his family. We have a neighborhood watch. I can tell you that if one of our watch members took to roaming the streets with a gun, looking for so-called criminals, we'd do something about it. We would KNOW that he was dangerous & something bad would happen sooner or later.
That's why you had the statements by homeowner watch group members almost right away dissassociating themselves with GZ. They KNOW they are partly responsible, and are taking steps to not be held accountable, both morally and civilly, when the Trayvon Martin lawsuit is filed (and it will be).
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"He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out" [View all]
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
OP
Major problem with privatization: No accountability because records are private! No way they'd know.
freshwest
Apr 2012
#1
That part was puzzling. How can it be illegal to have a party in a private home?
freshwest
Apr 2012
#11
I hadn't thought of that, but it would fit. This case just gets sleazier all the time.
freshwest
Apr 2012
#13
There are companies that exist to help homeowners break laws? And they call Martin a criminal?
freshwest
Apr 2012
#20
I think it makes more sense that he was working for an outcall stripper agency
TorchTheWitch
Apr 2012
#26
Dad whined his son won't get to 'mentor children' anymore. He shouldn't be around children at all.
freshwest
Apr 2012
#31
Yup. House parties are big among the under 21 set. But this is the first I've heard of security...
JVS
Apr 2012
#32
Every Rave i ever threw or worked for had some kind of security. It was nessesary.
slampoet
Apr 2012
#52
I think *I* am going to have a party when they arrest this a-hole and a double-party
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#35
Apparently the real gun control is that wielded by the NRA and gun-lovers over the rest of us
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#21
I never much cared about it in its less malignant form. But it's part and parcel of the anti-Obama
freshwest
Apr 2012
#27
He's a psycho and he needs to be behind bars now. The Sanford PD and the State Atty
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#22
In my opinion, the best thing one can say about this dude is that he is the epitome of a TOTAL LOSER
northoftheborder
Apr 2012
#9
That's what I think - that the asshole is in Peru, with the aid of the NRA, the Sanford PD, & the
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#39
Having a temper doesn't disqualify from anyone from buying a gun. As for the criminal record...
Honeycombe8
Apr 2012
#40
"Having a temper" - isn't that an elegant way to say "anger management issues?"
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#41
Weapons to kill (which is what guns are) should not be sold. However, if they absolutely must...
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#43
I disagree. You must be from an area where guns are just bad things. I grew up around
Honeycombe8
Apr 2012
#47
The gun-lovers argument is that ultimately it's not things that cause damage - it's what people do
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#48
A gun's purpose is not solely to kill a person. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Honeycombe8
Apr 2012
#49
Since we no longer rely on killing animals ourselves to eat them, guns have only one purpose
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#51
I don't want my throat slit or a knife flying into my face any more than I want to be shot.
Zalatix
Apr 2012
#58
You're playing gun-defending games, so run along and play them with someone else nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2012
#59