He didn't "kill a baby"

[Hekate]

21. Thank you. I got bashed up one side and down the other on that issue.

People in that thread went from "she said she was pregnant and he said she said she was" right up to talking about a "8 month fetus" without one shred of evidence that it was a fact. Have the cops or the EMTs or neighbors made note of seeing such a thing? Nobody here has even bothered to find out.

AFAIC she could have been lying to play on his sympathy -- after all, she had just participated in a home invasion robbery and helped beat/injure a very old man. Why wouldn't she lie about this or anything else?

Second point, conceding she might have told the truth: our language. "The baby" and "the kid" were phrases used over and over again as though the female robber were carrying an infant swaddled in a baby blanket in her arms.

You are absolutely right, kiva. There was no baby, there was no child. At most there was a fetus. The terminology is being used to add outrage to outrage, to separate the fetus or zygote from its mother and to confer individual personhood upon something that does not exist, that cannot exist, apart from the womb inside its mother.

It's enough that the woman was killed and it's enough that an old man with a badly injured arm and shoulder was enraged enough to fire at a fleeing robber and later on still enraged enough to say to the cops and in front of cameras, "Yes, I did it" and a couple of other choice things. That whole thread is just nuts, IMO.