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trof

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17. Won't jump ON you, I'll jump in WITH you.

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:15 AM

Apr 2012

Drives me up the wall when people with little or no knowledge of a situation, speculate on it on national TV.
Or anywhere else, for that matter.

"COULD have been this..."
"COULD have been that..."
"POSSIBLY it was..."

I'm a pilot and I've flown fighters, but I have very little knowledge of the FA-18 and would never speculate on what happened. The military accident investigators are generally very good at what they do.
It's in their best interest and those of other pilots flying that type of aircraft to do everything they can to find out exactly what happened.

Most accurate information will probably come from debriefing the two pilots involved.

And what about this headline I found this morning of various news headlines websites: "Massive (or 'Catastrophic') Mechanical Failure resulted in crash"...?
Attributed to someone (not identified) at Norfolk NAS.
How could they possibly know that right now?
(It was the NY Daily News ), but other papers picked it up.
Are they just making this crap up?
jeez

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OK, so some of you jumped all over me yesterday after the horrible plane crash [View all] PCIntern Apr 2012 OP

It doesn't surprise me that Phillips came out with that "Great Santini" shit. brewens Apr 2012 #1

"If you don't have control, save yourself!" panzerfaust Apr 2012 #5

If they had no control over the plane then get the fuck out, eject madokie Apr 2012 #8

Why should they die if they had no control? treestar Apr 2012 #27

"Put the safety of unsuspecting people on the ground second to his own personal safety." PavePusher Apr 2012 #29

It's the 24/7 news cycle. onlyadream Apr 2012 #2

Doesn't make it right and she wasn't in 'conjecture' mode anyway...n/t PCIntern Apr 2012 #3

Oh cry me a river. You're the one conjecturing. Demit Apr 2012 #4

the only reason I scaled back that post PCIntern Apr 2012 #12

Why scale back? izquierdista Apr 2012 #14

Jessica Lynch? Was that her name? proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #6

There is always a matter of timing. quaker bill Apr 2012 #7

So basically you're disappointed that the pilots lived MadHound Apr 2012 #9

The you better get your ears checked... PCIntern Apr 2012 #11

Yes, all the facts have yet to come out, MadHound Apr 2012 #15

OK, one more time with feeling... PCIntern Apr 2012 #21

You didn't wait for an investigation to smear the pilots. hack89 Apr 2012 #26

"the people who caused it directly" WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #28

I don't think so atreides1 Apr 2012 #13

Madhound azmesa207 Apr 2012 #43

I hope they didn't follow Air Force procedure! MADem Apr 2012 #51

I'm always amused by the railing against the MIC here on DU, but then... Javaman Apr 2012 #10

Ah, so we're not pure unless we're pissed that the pilots didn't die? n/t MadHound Apr 2012 #16

you cherry picked a lot from my comment. Javaman Apr 2012 #56

Won't jump ON you, I'll jump in WITH you. trof Apr 2012 #17

Well, considering that witnesses saw flames coming out of at least one engine MadHound Apr 2012 #18

+1 Rex Apr 2012 #39

Couple of things: 1. Flame could have been afterburner. trof Apr 2012 #47

I heard/saw a Navy spokesperson on TV saying that the fuel leaking (gushing?) led them gateley Apr 2012 #20

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2012 #50

I wouldn't necessarily assume Kyra Phillips is a military apologist (although she may very well gateley Apr 2012 #19

In the "old days", bvar22 Apr 2012 #22

Now let that be a lesson to you gratuitous Apr 2012 #23

i didn't see that thread barbtries Apr 2012 #24

I turned on the tv when the Navy spokesperson was giving his spin. That is exactly what it was monmouth Apr 2012 #25

I didn't jump on you. I know that area well. DevonRex Apr 2012 #30

Well it seems today that by the grace of God, or sheer luck (take your choice)... 1620rock Apr 2012 #31

Wow! i didn't know we had all these fighter pilots here on DU! PCIntern Apr 2012 #33

Which proves you know nothing whatsoever about airplanes OR pilots. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #46

Sorry, bud. I wouldn't 'scarifice' myself. trof Apr 2012 #48

Lost cause. The military has been elevated beyond sacrosanct to become Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #32

BTW, I once flew 747's AND the Space Shuttle simultaneously PCIntern Apr 2012 #34

Welcome to ignore. 1620rock Apr 2012 #35

It's an honor, believe me. n/t PCIntern Apr 2012 #36

Well, that could have happened. There was a specially-built 747 designed to transport the space MADem Apr 2012 #52

The military are really good about lying and making shit up when they screw up quinnox Apr 2012 #37

I'm not even sure how this is related to your previous OP. Make7 Apr 2012 #38

Note the indeterminate nature of my positing... PCIntern Apr 2012 #40

Fact of the matter is.... whistler162 Apr 2012 #41

Amen. Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #45

You said the pilots were Republican nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #42

I believe that I said or inferred that PCIntern Apr 2012 #54

You are confusing mad with calling you on it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #55

The occupants of the apartment said publicly on camera they were not upset at the pilots Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #44

When I was taking instrument flying lessons Sherman A1 Apr 2012 #49

Cassandras always rub some people the wrong way. I found that out when I said 9/11 would be used DesertDiamond Apr 2012 #53