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Prophet 451

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125. You're ahead of us

Reply to Bluenorthwest (Reply #123)

Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:42 AM

Jul 2014

Our government refuses to even consider the idea of cannabis having a medical use, let alone recreational.

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Tell Young People the Truth: E-Cigarettes and Vaping Flavors Help People Quit Smoking (Alternet) [View all] Prophet 451 Jul 2014 OP

Where is the research that shows that? I'm glad it's working for you, pnwmom Jul 2014 #1

E-Cigarette companies target audience is almost 100% young people. onehandle Jul 2014 #2

Wrong. E-cigs' target audience is nearly 100% adult smokers meow2u3 Jul 2014 #129

How many smokers need to tell you Bonobo Jul 2014 #3

Smokers and cigarette companies have ALWAYS made claims about cigarettes that weren't true. pnwmom Jul 2014 #23

Actually I knew you would say that. Bonobo Jul 2014 #26

I will support every effort to get these things in the hands of smokers to help them stop, pnwmom Jul 2014 #34

Which public places? U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #35

Indoor public places -- the same places cigarettes are banned from. pnwmom Jul 2014 #38

Beaches? Parks? U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #40

Personally, I mostly don't care about outdoor places, though it's no fun running a gauntlet pnwmom Jul 2014 #44

What does that have to do with e-cigs? Mariana Jul 2014 #47

Steam is quite capable of carrying nicotine and contaminants into lungs. pnwmom Jul 2014 #57

The e-juice most vapers use contains 4-5 ingredients U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #71

Let the producers submit their research to the FDA for its review. pnwmom Jul 2014 #95

BZZZT! Treant Jul 2014 #92

This researcher disagrees with you. pnwmom Jul 2014 #107

Not trying to be picky, but that last quote: did you c&p that, or re-type it? politicat Jul 2014 #118

I think it was the reporter's error. This wasn't a peer reviewed article. It was a MSM report. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #126

Glantz is a anti-nicotine crusader vapers call ANTZ meow2u3 Jul 2014 #134

Cool, I (and most vapers) have no problem with not vaping indoors U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #51

I would agree to the marketing to kids but not to the ban in public places. Bonobo Jul 2014 #36

What gives you the right to vape your nicotine device in indoor public places? pnwmom Jul 2014 #39

What gives you the right to wear perfume? Bonobo Jul 2014 #45

I don't. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #58

I don't believe you. Treant Jul 2014 #80

When I'm blowing clouds of perfume "steam" at you, you have a right to complain. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #81

I'm complaining now. Treant Jul 2014 #84

Good luck with getting your law through any legislature. pnwmom Jul 2014 #85

I don't believe you. Treant Jul 2014 #88

Wrong again. A food by definition includes beverages. pnwmom Jul 2014 #104

But are you good on banning perfume & cologne in public indoor spaces? U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #89

Duplicity, of course. Treant Jul 2014 #90

Don't get drawn in U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #94

It just did get boring. Treant Jul 2014 #100

When did I ever propose that? n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #105

It's actually already passed one house committee, there will be folks knocking for you in months snooper2 Jul 2014 #113

Lots of them have zero nicotine. Mariana Jul 2014 #48

I'm close! Treant Jul 2014 #93

I would ban them from indoor places because when someone is vaping pnwmom Jul 2014 #106

Getting back on, you know, actual topic Treant Jul 2014 #97

Why would they conclude that? A good marketing push Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #4

It is hard to believe that edgineered Jul 2014 #5

Then let's get rid of soda, since it contains addictive substances (caffeine and sugar). KittyWampus Jul 2014 #6

I would agree with that if soda was blown into the air to be breathed in. onehandle Jul 2014 #8

you don't know what an e-cigarette is, then. And the analogy is exact. Vaping doesn't KittyWampus Jul 2014 #10

Bad analogy Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #12

I vape indoors, and my family swears that they can't smell a thing. They've gotten me off of Flatulo Jul 2014 #17

Lol, great line about the helmets Armstead Jul 2014 #21

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #53

Not quite Treant Jul 2014 #73

Your perfume, cologne, Treant Jul 2014 #72

All of those things have practical purpose. onehandle Jul 2014 #108

Couple of things Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #115

Yea, and this damned internet thing is a bit, never mind. nt edgineered Jul 2014 #9

It's a fad. Sales are declining. onehandle Jul 2014 #7

The article does point out some interesting facts though. Liberal Veteran Jul 2014 #43

This. Treant Jul 2014 #70

But... Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #11

You didn't need to say but, edgineered Jul 2014 #15

If they are, they're failing to do so Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #18

Exactly! Exactly why the question of edgineered Jul 2014 #24

They're trying Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #28

Depending on the store and vendor edgineered Jul 2014 #32

Hmm, age limit the disposables? Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #42

That's probably about the best that could be done. edgineered Jul 2014 #46

Every Vape store in my town loudly refuses service to those under 18, although there is no law Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #121

Also, the good personal vaporizers are not made by Big Tobbaco. U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #16

I started with one of those Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #22

This may or may not sound paranoid Mariana Jul 2014 #59

It did sound paranoid Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #64

I can't think of any other reason Mariana Jul 2014 #74

White Cloud makes awesome disposables at a fraction of the price. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #127

People here don't even have to go online, we have Vape shops all over the place. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #122

There's only one in teh city where I live Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #124

Right, and tapering down is unconscious, meaning it isn't unpleasant Warpy Jul 2014 #62

That last bit is important Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #68

I think a lot of people will remain customers Warpy Jul 2014 #29

That's exactly what I'm doing Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #31

Yup, the damn habit is the killer! edgineered Jul 2014 #33

I bought my PV (personal vaporizer) 5 months ago & haven't smoked since. U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #13

You're the second person I've seen recommend Five Pawns Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #14

It's a bit pricey, but their Gambit & their Castle Long are soooo delicious. U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #19

I have a totally wicked. So does my wife, Fuddnik Jul 2014 #27

I use the liquids but not their PV Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #30

I make my own Treant Jul 2014 #75

I don't have the nerve for that Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #99

It worked for me PennyK Jul 2014 #20

Congrats, dude! Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #25

if its not air I would prefer you keep your vapors to yourself nt msongs Jul 2014 #37

Fair enough, I'll try to keep the vapour away from you Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #41

don't worry, most of us will awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #52

don't ever fart... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #54

Or breathe Treant Jul 2014 #76

It all comes down to loss of tax revenue... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #49

Which explains teh political rage Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #55

very true, nicotine is a bad drug... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #56

The liquid can be made up at home Mariana Jul 2014 #69

Check out The Puck Treant Jul 2014 #77

Excellent. Mariana Jul 2014 #82

The Puck has that. Treant Jul 2014 #86

My Last Tobacco Cig Was in October Leith Jul 2014 #50

You're right about the flavors in alcoholic beverages. Mariana Jul 2014 #83

"...the number of people who take up vaping without being smokers first barely exists." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #60

I wouldn't be surprised if there already were Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #65

I use a special vaping device built for vaping cannabis concentrates, oils and the like. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #123

You're ahead of us Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #125

They do. Treant Jul 2014 #78

I don't see why there should be an issue of banning it from public places until it is affirmed that C Moon Jul 2014 #61

The only problem with that Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #67

Very true. But I think, as with cigarettes, C Moon Jul 2014 #79

Well, the good thing about e-cigs Mariana Jul 2014 #87

Vaping helps people quit. end of story. the_sly_pig Jul 2014 #63

And so you should be Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #66

Did we quit at the same time? (Apr 3.) Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #91

Nearly Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #96

Good for you! As for the other thing... Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #103

While I think these should be available alternatives, the real success is in quitting the addiction. cbayer Jul 2014 #98

Well, most of us taper down our nicotine slowly Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #101

I'm glad that is working for you, but it never worked for me. cbayer Jul 2014 #102

Congrat's on your success using The Easy Way Babel_17 Jul 2014 #131

I quit smoking several years ago. Should I start vaping? CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #109

Perfectly stated! randome Jul 2014 #110

Vaping is safer than smoking Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #112

Cocaine is safer than heroin. onehandle Jul 2014 #117

Fallacy of teh excluded middle Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #119

The whole truth. LWolf Jul 2014 #111

To take those in order Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #114

Jerk? Yes. LWolf Jul 2014 #116

Fully agreed on that last part Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #120

Not being addicted to nicotine should be a short term goal, imo Babel_17 Jul 2014 #128

Allen Carr is my personal hero. cbayer Jul 2014 #130

My pleasure Babel_17 Jul 2014 #132

He had me from the beginning when he said that I would rejoice, not suffer. cbayer Jul 2014 #133