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Enrique

(27,461 posts) Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:57 PM Jul 2014

i've never been less convinced by the Israeli argument for war [View all]

the arguments are very similar, and I'm listening to them now as I always do, whether it's liberals or right-wingers making the arguments. I never totally reject them, they do strike a chord with me.

But this time, way less than previously. I'm not sure why. Is this round of assaults different, did they come about in a different way? Or is it all the same and my thinking is just changing.

Anyway, I'm hearing the arguments and they just seem like the weakest thing I've ever heard. I was listening to Dennis Prager this morning and instead of mentally answering his arguments like I might normally do, this time i just thought, "is that all they've got?"

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i've never been less convinced by the Israeli argument for war [View all] Enrique Jul 2014 OP

Easy explanation BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #1

Religious Right enid602 Jul 2014 #5

Good point BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #6

Right wingers are controlling Israel RobertEarl Jul 2014 #29

Yep, a lot of political contributions in Israel come from the US Chathamization Jul 2014 #16

good point MFM008 Jul 2014 #17

Israeli justifications for violence are disingenuous. Maedhros Jul 2014 #2

that article is what prompted me to make this post actually Enrique Jul 2014 #3

It's worse than that, actually Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #9

a big part of it MFM008 Jul 2014 #18

Americans reflexively view the actions of organized national military forces as justified, Maedhros Jul 2014 #19

No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #4

It really is that simple. morningfog Jul 2014 #7

Yes. It really is. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #8

They will accomplish nothing except abusing everyone in Gaza killbotfactory Jul 2014 #10

I'm not sure that either side NEEDS a valid reason for war. shame. nt clarice Jul 2014 #11

Excellent thread malaise Jul 2014 #12

But then again... Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #13

as bad as Hamas is - the last part of your statement is simply not true Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #14

Never let an excuse to bomb hospitals, homes, and schools go to waste. nt killbotfactory Jul 2014 #15

The only problem with this argument... Scootaloo Jul 2014 #28

Lots of AIPAC operatives on this site of late. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #20

Stop reading my mind.nt bravenak Jul 2014 #26

There are a plenty of cold-hearted people in this world cpwm17 Jul 2014 #27

i think the reaction to suspension of airlines really brought it out also JI7 Jul 2014 #21

Over time, their land grab in Palestine has become inexcusable and a naked example KittyWampus Jul 2014 #22

the land thing is missing from all of this, some people discuss it as if it's just something from JI7 Jul 2014 #23

Which is why they forcibly removed settlers from Gaza hack89 Jul 2014 #24

Well they couldn't have Real human beings living in their new concentration camp now could they? Dragonfli Jul 2014 #25

Actually it's because Israel wished to cut costs Scootaloo Jul 2014 #30