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119. It's consensual BDSM from my understanding

Reply to Trillo (Reply #96)

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:44 AM

Jul 2014

I may be wrong, but that's what I've come to understand

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[50 Shades] What two consenting adults do in their bedroom is NEVER your business. [View all] Michigander_Life Jul 2014 OP

Thank you! NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #1

Is it jealousy? chrisa Jul 2014 #62

I honestly don't know. Resentment might be a better word. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #65

i doubt that it will be as big as they think because so much time went by. roguevalley Jul 2014 #226

Obsessed? What a jab. Check out who started the two ops. And who told duers to shut up. seabeyond Jul 2014 #75

Um...the book is actually FICTION for entertainment. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #77

entertainment of the rape and sexual torture of a woman. seabeyond Jul 2014 #78

Again, it's fiction. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #79

and again... did i say anywhere people were not ALLOWED to write fiction? is this really how you seabeyond Jul 2014 #80

No, just pointing it out in case you weren't aware. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #81

irrelevant. at least in this post, you did not fabricate and accusation against me. well done. seabeyond Jul 2014 #84

let me point out again, the post you replied to, was about being accused of being OBSESSED with the seabeyond Jul 2014 #83

It seems to me a lot of people are obsessed with it. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #86

you seem to be about the most obsessed. i do not give a flying shit about a movie that will bomb. seabeyond Jul 2014 #94

On this, I stand with you. Laelth Jul 2014 #298

Wait, are we talking about what happens in the bedroom or the theater/library/bookstore? progressoid Jul 2014 #172

That's an excellent question. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #196

I really don't care what other people find entertaining. That's the point. chrisa Jul 2014 #90

ok. you bring in obsessed in an OP telling people they are not allowed to say anything *mean* about seabeyond Jul 2014 #92

Why are you misquoting me? Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #97

i am calling you out, as so many other in htis thread read the same way. [50 shades] seabeyond Jul 2014 #99

You misquoted me. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #101

i do not give a flying fuck what people do in their bedroom. we agree. i do give a fuck about an OP seabeyond Jul 2014 #104

That's not what the OP said. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #107

you did not request. you tied in a movie to peoples bedroom and told them they had no right to say seabeyond Jul 2014 #108

You're projecting. I never said anything like that. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #109

no. i am not projecting. and too many people on this thread say exactly what i am. YOU.... seabeyond Jul 2014 #112

I didn't tell you or anyone else to STFU. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #117

i will expect to see you refute that accusation in a number of posts, in this thread, by a good # of seabeyond Jul 2014 #118

No need to refute anything. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #120

omg.... thru out the thread poster after poster says the same as i. done with you. too fuggin easy seabeyond Jul 2014 #122

Have a great day. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #126

i took the quotes out. was a general over what was being said. seabeyond Jul 2014 #106

They have the right to argue people shouldn't see it treestar Jul 2014 #301

I thought the thread was about what two consenting adults did in their bedrooms. moriah Jul 2014 #156

[50 shades] he was linking to another thread talking about 50 shades and a group opposed to the seabeyond Jul 2014 #162

There were people in that thread criticizing BDSM entirely, I'm having a discussion with one now. moriah Jul 2014 #169

Take a look at where he thinks he is seeing people arguing against any acts of consensual sex. Squinch Jul 2014 #261

fictional characters have privacy rights? Enrique Jul 2014 #2

Pretty stupid, right? redqueen Jul 2014 #25

The moral ones think it is their right to force their values on everyone else. liberal N proud Jul 2014 #3

"Moral" in quotes... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #6

bdsm community trashed the movie... get on their ass about being the "moral" police. how DARE they seabeyond Jul 2014 #53

And I trashed "Hannibal Rising." Your point? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #56

ha seabeyond Jul 2014 #61

Ugh, you were right to. So disappointed in that movie. Just terrible. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #158

Are they arguing that it be against the law? treestar Jul 2014 #302

They would and will when they can. liberal N proud Jul 2014 #306

I don't think that is necessarily true treestar Jul 2014 #309

Did anyone here say differently? I haven't seen any posts or threads on 50 Shades. Squinch Jul 2014 #4

There are several such posts in this thread: Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #5

Evidently some adults(?) believe that if they don't consent, no one should. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #7

And that THEIR consent is necessary for others' private acts. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #8

Exactly. Of course my usual response to the Morality police is "Up Yours" hobbit709 Jul 2014 #9

If you read through the posts in that referenced thread, none of them say anything Squinch Jul 2014 #154

Read through the thread he referenced. There are no posts in that thread that say anything of the Squinch Jul 2014 #152

I just read through the whole thing and didn't find anything where people were objecting to Squinch Jul 2014 #151

So one of the adults beating the other whistler162 Jul 2014 #10

My only complaint is it looks like a very bad movie CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #11

BDSM practitioners tore the book up because it glorifies NON consensual abuse. redqueen Jul 2014 #28

it was the same type of ignorant fool who bought the book from media and pr hype only to find it was seabeyond Jul 2014 #31

"it was so titillating to point the finger at the middle age women getting off on...sexual abuse" redqueen Jul 2014 #38

I agree 100%. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #200

I only read a little excerpt CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #32

Exactly. It is fucking sick. But here we have DU's usual FREEDUMB BECAUSE SEXXXY TIMES brigade redqueen Jul 2014 #34

glorifying violence against women. But that's ... well ... "FUN" per those in this thread and seabeyond Jul 2014 #40

I know. I can't even. redqueen Jul 2014 #42

the movie will be a fail, i did not post in the other thread. an OP telling me i am not allowed to seabeyond Jul 2014 #44

100 n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #82

The problem with the story wasn't the sex itself LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #87

I don't really understand why so many people were into that book. alarimer Jul 2014 #124

media and pr hyped it as a huge ass giglle about middle aged women getting off on sexual abuse seabeyond Jul 2014 #130

I detested those books LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #188

Exactly. RiffRandell Jul 2014 #233

Haha, I went and looked that up today too LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #278

Wait...I linked the wrong thread! RiffRandell Jul 2014 #283

Thank you! whathehell Jul 2014 #43

BDSM practitioners bash it for lack of "safe play." joshcryer Jul 2014 #280

In the book, it is consensual abuse mainer Jul 2014 #293

the movie is for public consumption. if it stayed behind closed doors in the bedroom, and not seabeyond Jul 2014 #12

This is pretty much correct. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #13

I think this particular thread is a response to... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #14

of course people have the right to call the shit out for what it is, whether it is because they seabeyond Jul 2014 #15

As I posted in the other thread... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #17

it is rape and torture of a woman for others entertainment. people certainly have the right to seabeyond Jul 2014 #19

Don't like it, don't read it. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #21

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I'll just let your previous posts speak for themselves. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #29

ah, now you are trying to demonize me with vague innuendo of guilt from fathom posts? seabeyond Jul 2014 #33

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again, a fail. this is an OP telling people they are not allowed to say anything about a woman raped seabeyond Jul 2014 #47

Okay...so your meme of the day is fail. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #52

whatever natural. you did not actually address anything i posted and spent your time fabricating seabeyond Jul 2014 #55

Do you approve of snuff films as well? pnwmom Jul 2014 #164

Don't like Seabeyond's comments, don't read them.. whathehell Jul 2014 #48

thank you. all these thought police telling us we are not even allowed to speak. i tell you. seabeyond Jul 2014 #49

You are welcome, whathehell Jul 2014 #68

And I have the right to disagree...ad infitum. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #58

Yeah, and I have the right to disagree with your disagreement...ad infinitum. whathehell Jul 2014 #63

That was kind of the point of the ad infinitum. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #66

No shit, Sherlock whathehell Jul 2014 #265

Shit, they go on about Teletubbies BainsBane Jul 2014 #20

I'm afraid the First Amendment does allow other people to "warn" you if they can treestar Jul 2014 #69

You're right. As I said below: NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #76

Wait, why don't people have the right to "warn" others not to see the movie DanTex Jul 2014 #70

Okay, poor choice of words. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #74

who determines who has the right to warn people not to see a movie? el_bryanto Jul 2014 #149

Are you suggesting censorship? Don't people who dislike the message of a movie pnwmom Jul 2014 #165

I think el bryanto is agreeing with that point. Squinch Jul 2014 #264

Your issue is with the word "warn" in a headline of a story about a book? For that you decided Squinch Jul 2014 #263

I find it bizarre BainsBane Jul 2014 #18

if it has to do with the sexual abuse and denigration of our girls and woman, we certainly have the seabeyond Jul 2014 #22

Actually, the title of the OP is... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #30

YOU gave me the link to the other thread about the movie being SPECIFICALLY what this OP is about. seabeyond Jul 2014 #36

Uh no, I gave you the Title. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #45

and again, link to where i told anyone what to do.... you and others in this thread were the ones seabeyond Jul 2014 #51

failfailfailfailfail... NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #54

Did you? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #142

Yes, but it's a movie kcr Jul 2014 #57

It's a movie BainsBane Jul 2014 #16

Making a book/movie glamorizing abusive relationships and domestic violence, redqueen Jul 2014 #23

Yes, we've adopted such a kneejerk fear of censorship, which doesn't apply here, anyway, whathehell Jul 2014 #95

"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left". seabeyond Jul 2014 #100

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #269

Thank you, Smirky. whathehell Jul 2014 #270

Your absolutely wrong. It is our business. Hoppy Jul 2014 #26

Hilarious ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #222

The number of consenting adults shouldn't even be considered either shedevil69taz Jul 2014 #27

STOP DOING THINGS I DON'T LIKE!!! Seeking Serenity Jul 2014 #35

Just so you know, you're characterizing ABUSE as "fun". redqueen Jul 2014 #39

No, I'm not characterizing abuse as fun Seeking Serenity Jul 2014 #46

That book was torn up by BDSM practitioners because it glorifies ABUSE. redqueen Jul 2014 #50

I don't know from BDSM practitioners Seeking Serenity Jul 2014 #67

I find it disingenuous chervilant Jul 2014 #274

I have no desire what so ever to read it or see it Marrah_G Jul 2014 #125

Yup ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #140

Wait - I just read upthread the the BDSM in the book was consensual. Was it or wasnt it? Flatulo Jul 2014 #310

So WHEN is it OK to take a moral stance, regarding "morality brigades"? alp227 Jul 2014 #247

Thank you...It's about time someone asked this question, and, yes, whathehell Jul 2014 #297

I don't know, when it comes to BDSM it's more complex than that treestar Jul 2014 #72

Hey I'd like to argue that we should invade Iran, Syria and Iraq. That'd be fun to me. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #171

Except in the case of one country invading another is the lack of consent mythology Jul 2014 #203

And there's a reason why people consider 50 shades of grey not really a true depiction of BSDM. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #219

Is that a real argument? alp227 Jul 2014 #246

But what actors do on screen is anyone's and everyone's business, freedom fighter jh Jul 2014 #37

It's a movie, bro..Ever heard of something called a cultural critique? whathehell Jul 2014 #59

Yep. That's why I'm not seeing this movie. None of my business. merrily Jul 2014 #60

As I used to roam around the neighborhood at night packman Jul 2014 #64

This movie will help begin a long discourse on the subject Tribalceltic Jul 2014 #71

I love love LOVE that this movie coming out at this moment in history!! DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #73

It's a goddamn movie genius. JTFrog Jul 2014 #85

Your post was alerted on. I was surprised the results were so close. Trillo Jul 2014 #88

Well, I wonder which self-righteous clown was the alerter. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #91

Looks like some have an issue with the poster, not the post content. Absurd. And prime example... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #105

At least one juror states that outright. Trillo Jul 2014 #110

I'm sure it's possible, but would be difficult wyldwolf Jul 2014 #111

I disagree with the alert. But the OP does completely miss the point of the other threads. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #285

It's a friggin' movie. TDale313 Jul 2014 #89

I haven't read the book or seen the movie, and I'm unlikely to Trillo Jul 2014 #96

It's consensual BDSM from my understanding wyldwolf Jul 2014 #119

It's my understanding that the consensual part TDale313 Jul 2014 #134

It seems like BDSM is a nearly perfect allegory for our police state. Trillo Jul 2014 #135

I thought that the books were about that, too. Turns out, they are not... Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #268

I know, this OP has puzzled me. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #272

Back around 1975 there was a big stink over the movie... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #93

theaters near me were bullied into not showing 'Last Temptation of Christ' in the 80s wyldwolf Jul 2014 #116

But you just can't help wondering if... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #127

An OKlahoma Cable Company blocked it when Cinemax showed it the first time CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #157

People bored with their sex lives Lex Jul 2014 #98

There must be a lot of people bored with their sex lives because the books were so popular. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #207

Yes, there must be. Lex Jul 2014 #209

Haven't read the book, don't intend to see the movie. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #102

I support people's rights to criticize movies! nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #103

Me, too, as long as it doesn't cross the lines of harassment wyldwolf Jul 2014 #113

Yup. Criticize all you want, but don't you DARE get in my way or in if I choose to go see it. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #115

One night I watched a movie entitled "Secretary" with Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader Skidmore Jul 2014 #114

It's my belief that the author basically ripped off "Secretary" and made it into a book arcane1 Jul 2014 #262

It's dangerous to deny people the personal authority to consent. Laelth Jul 2014 #303

Did someone say BDSM? SmittynMo Jul 2014 #121

Thanks for the comic relief. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #211

A movie that annoys the Christian teabaggers AND the sex-negative feminists? davidn3600 Jul 2014 #123

And the jury results are in.... aikoaiko Jul 2014 #132

Juror #4 nailed it. pintobean Jul 2014 #178

in the future when we state your OPs are about "annoying" the feminists, kindly remember this seabeyond Jul 2014 #136

No...I just find sex-negative feminists to be as socially oppressive as tea baggers davidn3600 Jul 2014 #139

yes, i understand your repeated use of sex negative is to annoy feminist, using their sexuality seabeyond Jul 2014 #144

I don't keep a journal of everyone's posts on here davidn3600 Jul 2014 #150

you made specific false accusations about me, and when refuted you now make false accusations that seabeyond Jul 2014 #153

You are the one that replied to me! davidn3600 Jul 2014 #160

yes. i called to attention your continued efforts to annoy feminists cause it is ..... fun seabeyond Jul 2014 #161

And I never said all feminsits...I said sex-negative feminists davidn3600 Jul 2014 #166

You insulted the feminist you were speaking to BainsBane Jul 2014 #241

Rick Santorum & the Religious Right are against porn for completely whathehell Jul 2014 #292

Finding sado-masochism distasteful must be "sex negative", LOL whathehell Jul 2014 #304

"sex negative feminists" BainsBane Jul 2014 #174

He didn't claim that"feminists are sex negative". He wrote that the Doctor_J Jul 2014 #180

He insulted Seabeyond as a "sex negative feminist" BainsBane Jul 2014 #181

"Sex negative"?...Maybe you mean "brutalized and demeaned" negative. whathehell Jul 2014 #267

BDSM isn't about brutality and demeaning women davidn3600 Jul 2014 #271

Of course it is, although I know men can be "brutalized & demeaned" as well. whathehell Jul 2014 #288

That's the big mystery of this book. JVS Jul 2014 #245

When they make and publish a movie about it, it can be. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #128

bingo. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #141

Do Women feel the book or movie is misogynistic? if so, then it is and I wont watch... randys1 Jul 2014 #129

Dude, women are buying this book like hotcakes davidn3600 Jul 2014 #131

then trashing and saying wtf..... as media hyped the pr sales. it gets a 2 rating out of 5 stars. seabeyond Jul 2014 #138

And lots of women vote for tea baggers, too. pnwmom Jul 2014 #163

I understand that, but... davidn3600 Jul 2014 #170

Sex sells. And people were curious. But I know women who wished they hadn't wasted their money. pnwmom Jul 2014 #243

Some probably do, others probably don't -- women are not a hive mind. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #137

Really, I thought they did have a hive mind...learn something new everyday randys1 Jul 2014 #143

A great many do. JoeyT Jul 2014 #145

or what FICTIONAL MOVIES THEY WATCH Doctor_J Jul 2014 #133

Not 100% true; otherwise Hobby Lobby has an argument maced666 Jul 2014 #146

I thought I'd accidentally stumbled into The Red Pill again. JoeyT Jul 2014 #147

+1. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #155

...because everyone doesn't agree with you on this particular issue. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #177

Well by all means, JoeyT Jul 2014 #210

It's not that ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #224

because no true "liberal" would disagree with Morality in Media, Phylis Shlafly, and Rick Santorum? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #232

Well then perhaps you can explain JoeyT Jul 2014 #244

I dont think the book is liberal. I suspect it is, at best, exceptionally shitty writing. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #248

agreed. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2014 #148

The MESSAGE of this movie is as debatable as anything on DU. pnwmom Jul 2014 #159

(Text NSFW or anyone upset by sex). I personally believe that deriving sexual pleasure Zorra Jul 2014 #167

Where do you draw the line? (Following NSFW pattern here in text) moriah Jul 2014 #202

Good question. Zorra Jul 2014 #282

So your GF's attraction to that kind of sex Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #296

A) I don't feel qualified to determine if a reasonably healthy, well rounded individual is Zorra Jul 2014 #299

What? Iggo Jul 2014 #168

Sex police? I'm here with the quality police Scootaloo Jul 2014 #173

It's fanfiction for christsakes. Those aren't consenting adults, they're actors. bravenak Jul 2014 #175

The common theme in many of the sex police posts Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #176

IT'S NOT THE SEX!!!! bravenak Jul 2014 #179

I'm afraid it's far, far, too late. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #182

As my eight year old would say, " So Gwoss!"nt bravenak Jul 2014 #184

So says the guy who alerted on a nipple. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #183

Boom goes the dynamite!nt bravenak Jul 2014 #185

That wasn't the alert Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #186

And us giving our opinion is like our own special type of NSFW tag. bravenak Jul 2014 #192

Indeed BainsBane Jul 2014 #187

...and the jury is in. eggplant Jul 2014 #197

Thx. Must have struck a nerve . nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #215

Juror 1 got to the heart of the issue BainsBane Jul 2014 #216

Thanks. eggplant Jul 2014 #260

ROFL Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #205

but not breastfeeding BainsBane Jul 2014 #189

Breast feeding is wonderful and should be encouraged. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #190

You write this OP equating criticism of a film BainsBane Jul 2014 #194

45 people believe Americans have no right to comment on movies BainsBane Jul 2014 #191

45 people believe two consenting adults shouldn't be berated and belittled for their sexual choices Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #193

Which two adults are those? BainsBane Jul 2014 #195

Those two. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #198

the movie characters? BainsBane Jul 2014 #199

Any two adults who engage in consensual sex. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #201

So that they come from a fictional novel adapted into a movie makes no difference? BainsBane Jul 2014 #212

What the fuck does that mean? There's no *actual sex* involved here; it's fiction muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #204

So many times? Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #208

No, I haven't noticed that; that appears to be the problem with your OP muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #218

Actually it's the opposite BainsBane Jul 2014 #220

It looks like the jury hide is all they were after here... R B Garr Jul 2014 #221

Probably so BainsBane Jul 2014 #225

Exactly. I found that difficult to believe, as well. R B Garr Jul 2014 #227

52, now. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #230

This makes the spreadsheet thread BainsBane Jul 2014 #231

People like dumb book, people complain about those liking book, people complain about complainers Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #235

Which is why I would bet any amount of money BainsBane Jul 2014 #238

On your first part you might very well be right. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #240

Why just the bedroom? philip.chinery Jul 2014 #206

Oh, I know! Glenn Beck talks about this a lot. Quantess Jul 2014 #213

Right. And welcome to DU. It can be in the living room, the kitchen, the dining room, Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #214

Not at my age, sonny Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #250

I'm not a man--I'm a woman. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #273

Sorry. My toothless old wheezy geezer voice works better with words like "sonny", that's all Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #287

I am not going to see this movie. Brigid Jul 2014 #217

How about everyone keeps their clothes on? Quantess Jul 2014 #223

When I was in Junior High, we perfected showering with our clothes on. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #228

Like in Arrested Development? Quantess Jul 2014 #234

Yes I agree that what people do in their bedroom do is their own business. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #229

I guess you're not supposed to comment on movies or novels BainsBane Jul 2014 #236

What is this movie about? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #237

It's based on some crap novel BainsBane Jul 2014 #239

Not my type of movie. Not surprised it caused debate. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #242

Once the giant robots start battling the extra dimensional sea monsters, it gets better. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #249

The last movie I saw was Milk. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #251

Oh yeah, absolutely. Sean Penn was great in that. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #252

No, I shall look it up. iam interested in that time period. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #253

It's a good read. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #254

Thanks. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #256

agreed samsingh Jul 2014 #255

even if there are more than 2 consenting adults its not anyone else's business samsingh Jul 2014 #257

There are no posts in which anyone says they have a problem with what consenting adults do. This is Squinch Jul 2014 #259

"This is some kind of weird argument he's having with the mommy in his head" whathehell Jul 2014 #266

Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #275

Seems like he's not the only one. BainsBane Jul 2014 #307

This thread kills me abelenkpe Jul 2014 #258

If the book hadn't appealed to a large group's sexual fantasies, it wouldn't have been a best seller Blaukraut Jul 2014 #276

The book reviews were suggested 50 shades of boredom. I don't need that in my bedroom. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #277

Let me opine that Tymber Dalton does a -far- better job... brooklynite Jul 2014 #279

I feel sorry for people who can't get off without hurting or being hurt.. whathehell Jul 2014 #295

theb problem with your statement DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #281

Well said. I think 50 Shades will bomb LittleBlue Jul 2014 #284

I agree Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #289

Self-righteous, self-appointed morality police suck. 99Forever Jul 2014 #286

And what a reader reads in the privacy of her bedroom isn't our business, either mainer Jul 2014 #290

We're allowed our opinions, "our business" or not whathehell Jul 2014 #291

Gerogia law disagrees with you. Laelth Jul 2014 #294

We might argue about consent treestar Jul 2014 #300

Couple things: historylovr Jul 2014 #305

i don't see the connection b/w discussing the movie and your bedroom fishwax Jul 2014 #308