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Divernan

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76. Hitler called it "propagandistic casus belli".

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:22 PM

Jul 2014

For months before the 1939 invasion, German newspapers and politicians, including Adolf Hitler, accused Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating violent ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans living in Poland.

On the day following the Gleiwitz attack, 1 September 1939, Germany launched the Fall Weiss operation — the invasion of Poland — initiating World War II in Europe. On the same day, in a speech in the Reichstag, Adolf Hitler cited the border incidents, with three of them called very serious, as justification for Germany's invasion of Poland.[7] Just a few days earlier, on 22 August, he had told his generals, "I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth.

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Casus belli is a Latin expression meaning "An act or event that provokes or is used to justify war"

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Might be surprised- Turns Out Hamas Likely Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All [View all] bigtree Jul 2014 OP

Figures.nt bravenak Jul 2014 #1

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #2

Shoot first Aerows Jul 2014 #3

And so, who is scheduled to speak to this on Sunday News shows? I guess, no one. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #95

But, they got their pretext. delrem Jul 2014 #4

Exactly, if it hadn't been this incident it would have been another. I doubt they were going A Simple Game Jul 2014 #69

Israelis refer to "Cutting the Grass", equating slaying humanity with landscaping BlueStreak Jul 2014 #71

Exactly. I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2014 #101

Of course. The "right to defend ourselves" is such a heap of bullshit. GoneFishin Jul 2014 #80

Netanyahu has a lot of egg on his face... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #5

Mossad Motto Unknown Beatle Jul 2014 #57

I highly recommend the book "By Way Of Deception - The Making and Unmaking Purveyor Jul 2014 #81

I'll look for it online Unknown Beatle Jul 2014 #94

Netanyahu, Bush, Cheney, Putin: dgibby Jul 2014 #68

I've got to ask... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #6

why don't I just remove that bigtree Jul 2014 #7

Sorry Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #9

they actually linked to the plagiarizing article in the report bigtree Jul 2014 #12

one of the editors at BuzzFeed has been bisted for plagiarism tishaLA Jul 2014 #13

Didn't the Israeli government also have knowledge those poor kids were already dead? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #8

Yes. But they didn't have the bodies, so they played out the drama BillZBubb Jul 2014 #15

That's appears to be true cpwm17 Jul 2014 #16

Not only that, but they lied to the kids' families for 18 days Ken Burch Jul 2014 #19

You don't know what they told the families. former9thward Jul 2014 #63

No. former9thward Jul 2014 #64

850 deaths later malaise Jul 2014 #10

Israel pulled a Dubya and attacked Hamas and the West Bank Tommy2Tone Jul 2014 #11

Yes, people that oppose Israel's unprovoked mass-murder against the Palestinians cpwm17 Jul 2014 #17

No comparison. Saddam wasnt firing rockets at the US every day. 7962 Jul 2014 #59

Israel fired the first shot. Hamas shot back. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #90

Here's the story, its up to you whether to believe it or not. 7962 Jul 2014 #103

That article sounds like . . . MrModerate Jul 2014 #107

Coming from algemeiner.com, it very well could have been. Algemeiner is the Purveyor Jul 2014 #112

Yeah. Apparently, the IDF is the noble band of protectors . . . MrModerate Jul 2014 #113

Think about that a minute - just what would suffice as evidence? The only source for such Flatulo Jul 2014 #114

Settlements vs. Tunnels Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2014 #102

No surprise. Netanyahu lied and Israeli propaganists beat the war drums. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #14

Would it be a reach? SCVDem Jul 2014 #18

Not that it matters much, because the region is a powder keg that any spark will ignite... BlueCheese Jul 2014 #20

I think there was another step in there Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #23

I think you're right. I should have included that. eom BlueCheese Jul 2014 #25

Found it again. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #33

Yes, there was a "limited" bombing of Gaza - Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #38

But is that accurate anyway? The article at first had a MAJOR error. George II Jul 2014 #97

Did it? What was the error? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #98

The article at first attempted to link the Gaza rocket firing to an Israeli invasion of Gaza.... George II Jul 2014 #99

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #21

I've been saying from the start... defacto7 Jul 2014 #22

Netanyahu's big lie. He can't rot in hell soon enough. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #24

k&r with arghhhhh uppityperson Jul 2014 #26

It wouldn't surprise me JimDandy Jul 2014 #27

Where are all the baby killer apologists? Board_Commentary Jul 2014 #28

a pity about the 900 dead palestinians shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #29

This should be Big Healine Leading News...yet only "NY Mag" has it? KoKo Jul 2014 #30

well, they're basing their report on this BBC journalist's word bigtree Jul 2014 #34

+10000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #62

K&R NealK Jul 2014 #31

This was obvious weeks ago. blackspade Jul 2014 #32

If you stop and think about it VA_Jill Jul 2014 #35

Tonkin. WMD. Battleship Maine. (nt) Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #36

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #37

See my comment and link above. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #40

A "Think Tank", huh? Most times, the simplest explanations are the correct ones. E-Z-B Jul 2014 #41

Take the link. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #42

They've killed hundreds of children, shameful, criminal and anyone who even tries to defend sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #47

Who said this? Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2014 #106

here's another interesting, believable account bigtree Jul 2014 #43

Here's why Hamas fired the missiles. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #49

"First rocket fire in more than 19 months"? Bullshit. Nearly 200 attacks before July 7962 Jul 2014 #60

Bullshit? Here's a link from the Jerusalem Post quoting the IDF on Karmadillo Jul 2014 #66

The article said 1st rocket fire in 19 months. Thats not true. Thats what I posted. 7962 Jul 2014 #82

The first rocket fired by Hamas in 19 months. And they had embraced the peace Karmadillo Jul 2014 #84

I'd fire rockets too. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author zonkers Jul 2014 #39

i don't think they said this was the reason they are going into GAza JI7 Jul 2014 #44

It is no coincidence that the Palestinians agreeing to a unity government in early June cpwm17 Jul 2014 #51

Yes. Netanyahu is scared to death of Palestinian unity. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #73

That is it, in a nutshell, and some in his cabinet make Bibi look like Ghandi. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #77

Well, we ARE the experts on invasions based upon "bad Intel." WinkyDink Jul 2014 #45

Shoot first, ask questions later. Pisces Jul 2014 #46

"Israel's top leadership" is like saying "Chairman Darrell Issa". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #48

» bigtree Jul 2014 #50

I figured it was not Hamas. Made no sense. Not sure why Israel has come clean now of all times. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #52

No surprises what so ever in no small part because azurnoir Jul 2014 #53

War crimes anyone? Fearless Jul 2014 #54

Also: roitov.com/articles/18htm "3 Boys for the West Bank" dougolat Jul 2014 #55

Interesting that a false flag Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 #56

Netanyahoo is pure Helgian Dialectic. If ballyhoo Jul 2014 #61

Palestinian teenager Muhammad Abu Khudair... KansDem Jul 2014 #58

Palestinians celebrated the kidnappings. former9thward Jul 2014 #65

What's your point? Karmadillo Jul 2014 #67

how do we know that? this look likes ifthar celebrations or something else quite innocuous La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2014 #72

You are absolutely correct. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #74

You won't believe me former9thward Jul 2014 #79

you do know of course Israel kidnaps Palestinians all the time and are holding hundreds of them? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #83

By your logic the U.S. "kidnaps" border crossers. former9thward Jul 2014 #89

oh that is ridiculous - when you take noncombatants away without any legal charge or any need to Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #91

You're disrupting Bibi's pretext...thank you. K&R Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #70

Anyone recall the Nazis' use of a false flag operation to justify invading Poland? Divernan Jul 2014 #75

Hitler called it "propagandistic casus belli". Divernan Jul 2014 #76

Also, read yesterday that Israeli soldier was not captured... kentuck Jul 2014 #78

Not surprised at all, sadly. GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #85

False equivalency. Divernan Jul 2014 #87

Hogwash. GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #93

it is implausible that any serious Israeli security personnel ever thought it was. They would know Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #86

Oops, I guess.... grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #87

"likely didn't"? George II Jul 2014 #96

the author of the claim in the title is Jon Donnison bigtree Jul 2014 #100

Go to the bottom of your linked "Daily Dot" article: George II Jul 2014 #104

false attempt to link the deaths? They provided the correction themselves bigtree Jul 2014 #108

Yes, they issued a correction, but... George II Jul 2014 #109

read some more in this thread bigtree Jul 2014 #110

I'll defer to Daniel Patrick Moynahan George II Jul 2014 #111

Sounds familiar. Didn't we do the same thing in Iraq? PatrickforO Jul 2014 #105