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4. Who wouldn't fight back

Reply to Little Star (Original post)

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:26 PM

Jul 2014

against that happening to their land?

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Palestinian loss of land 1946 to 2000... [View all] Little Star Jul 2014 OP

This is impressive. elleng Jul 2014 #1

For now I think I'll trust Juan Cole. Little Star Jul 2014 #2

Yes. elleng Jul 2014 #3

Who wouldn't fight back 4now Jul 2014 #4

Seems to me like they are given no other choice. Little Star Jul 2014 #5

Palestine shrunk because of the fighting. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #54

They are one in a very long line of claimants it seems... Ultra_Blue Jul 2014 #56

Eh, there has never been a time when Palestine has been state. malthaussen Jul 2014 #6

who started it? questionseverything Jul 2014 #11

My question refers to the war against Israel, not criminal acts. malthaussen Jul 2014 #17

Requires a backstory econoclast Jul 2014 #7

Or maybe the far more accurate backstory provided by Cole. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #14

"Their country"? Indydem Jul 2014 #24

Doesn't "their country" refer to the proposed Arab nation in the UN partition? The Karmadillo Jul 2014 #35

Then why des he keep acting as if they are a real country? Indydem Jul 2014 #38

What makes Israel a "real" country and Palestine Blue Meany Jul 2014 #53

That is a ridiculous right wing argument. No one, by that standard ever had a country. Land was sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #58

You're shifting definitions and don't know it. Igel Jul 2014 #45

Cole's text is incoherent, but yours is a model of clear thinking. If you say so. Karmadillo Jul 2014 #51

It was "their own fault" is always the justification of bullies. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #19

Choosing war in 48 obviously was not the wise choice. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #8

+1 Adsos Letter Jul 2014 #12

For either side. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #16

Sigh. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #25

I know you just want to wish it away hack89 Jul 2014 #26

History is indeed history. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #30

So let me guess. The Jews were the aggressors attacking the peaceful Arabs hack89 Jul 2014 #46

The map is highly misleading. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #9

The West Bank was not Palestinian before 67 hack89 Jul 2014 #10

the map that lies Mosby Jul 2014 #13

This infographic seems a bit better Chathamization Jul 2014 #15

What did these Palestinians do with the land, before 1946? Archae Jul 2014 #18

Well that's certainly a familiar argument. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #20

Nothing? Karmadillo Jul 2014 #21

Here's Israels loss of land from the thousand years or so prior to '46 7962 Jul 2014 #22

Or 3000. Indydem Jul 2014 #28

Yes. 7962 Jul 2014 #52

the map clearly shows they're fighting over theological differences! MisterP Jul 2014 #23

Quibble about the precise details of the map all you want killbotfactory Jul 2014 #27

Why don't the "Palestinians" have a state? Indydem Jul 2014 #29

Israel provokes them constantly killbotfactory Jul 2014 #33

HA HA HA HA Indydem Jul 2014 #36

Sorry got confused with last nights death count killbotfactory Jul 2014 #37

The Myth of the Generous Offer: Distorting the Camp David negotiations Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #43

Bill Clinton puts the blame on Arafat. Indydem Jul 2014 #44

I don't share your paternalistic view of politicians when it conflicts with the historic record - Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #48

That's the penalty of starting and losing wars. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #31

Spot on. Indydem Jul 2014 #40

Exactly seveneyes Jul 2014 #42

Now justify the expansion of settlements. nt killbotfactory Jul 2014 #49

None would exist if statehood had been accepted decades ago. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #50

Right -- if they had just surrendered all their homes and land immediately, stranger81 Jul 2014 #55

"History supplies little more than a list of people who have helped themselves to the property of Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #32

This is the map that blows my mind ErikJ Jul 2014 #34

, blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #39

That map and the pictures of Israelis cutting down olive groves that had been there for ..... Botany Jul 2014 #41

Good thread. Rec'ing more for the discussion here than the OP. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2014 #47

As others already pointed out, this 'map' is not useful and not accurate. maced666 Jul 2014 #57