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TheKentuckian

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63. I know you are correct on how the scam is set up, I'm talking about how it should be

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 03:31 PM

Jul 2014

If the HOA is so wonderful then the new owners will be happy to join but if they don't see it that way they can pound sand until they have a new owner to pitch.

I'm not against freedom of association, if you want to have a neighborhood club then feel free just don't think that because I purchase a property that I am obligated to join it because freedom of association also means I am free not to associate with you and play by your reindeer games.

If you want a government then buck up and incorporate, otherwise we should be free to say kiss my ass. As currently functioning, I believe these constructs are an abomination and the result of a bought out government. How the fuck are you going to give a club such legal authority? Sometimes beyond the authority of a locality.

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Nazi Dictatorship...I mean Homeowners Association bans veteran from making furniture... [View all] Archae Jul 2014 OP

Not sure I would want a carpentry shop next door to me. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #1

me either. i live in a townhouse type community so we are real close together. guy tried to do Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #59

He agreed to the rules when he purchased the house. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #2

The rules can change on you after you've bought the house. JimDandy Jul 2014 #76

Then they should have participated in the process. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #82

Changing of a property right can require 100% agreement DURHAM D Jul 2014 #84

Depends upon the state and the HOA. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #87

Changing the covenants is one thing. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #89

A good attorney, yes. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #95

people are so self centered archaic56 Jul 2014 #127

Have another drink. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #128

your derogatory post archaic56 Jul 2014 #139

Comparing CC&Rs of a development to Nazis is offensive, downplays what the nazis did/do. uppityperson Jul 2014 #3

Come on. Preventing some guy from running his buzzsaw at all hours in a residential neighborhood Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #23

Render unto Godwin that which is Godwin's� Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #58

it's become commonplace to label anything bad as 'nazi' Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #60

agreed nt ! steve2470 Jul 2014 #140

This overplaying the Nazi card. TIMETOCHANGE Aug 2014 #151

HOAs were created to keep neighborhoods restricted and segregated.... TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #10

That was said exactly like a member of a HOA would say it. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #15

Every resident of an HOA neighborhood is a member Zambero Jul 2014 #103

They even have rules about what color you can paint your house- Ken Burch Jul 2014 #22

So, people who want to live in a neighborhood with funky-colored houses Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #25

It's not choice, it's coerced conformity. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #30

Wow, I didn't realize that people are forced to buy houses in neighborhoods run by HOAs. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #32

Give us a break, we do not have zoning laws in most of Harris County, Texas so if you Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #130

There was a subdivision in suburban KC that tried to mandate green lawns. delta17 Jul 2014 #88

That has been happening all over. Mariana Jul 2014 #111

I am happy to say state law over ruled the HOA's. My HOA enforced the Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #129

Actually, few HOAs have those sorts of rules these days. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #109

few HOAs have those sort of rules? 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #113

We have an HOA and I'm glad we do. I read the rules in detail, nothing was a surprise. Basically, RKP5637 Jul 2014 #37

Actually they were originally created to DURHAM D Jul 2014 #11

I submit that their purpose evolved in some communities TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #14

What is an undesirable? nt DURHAM D Jul 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #17

I think you will appreciate this. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #67

HOAs collect fees from members and then use those fees to TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #29

The only undesirable is someone who does not pay their dues. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #34

The undesireable was anyone not like the majority of the members of the HOA. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #42

Disputes with the Board do not negate the requirement to pay dues. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #47

Do you own a home in an HOA? DURHAM D Jul 2014 #48

Got a link to HOAs buying soon to be vacant homes? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #40

It's illegal to do that now. But some HOA agreements are so complicated TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #49

HOA agreements are very straight forward MohRokTah Jul 2014 #52

Some HOA's have a Right Of First Refusal which, as the other poster hinted, can be used.. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #119

That's why the ROFR for HOAs is now longer legal in Illinois. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #121

Do you have a link to ROFR being illegal in Illinois? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #122

My apologies, I reviewed the booklet from the meeting the Board and I attended. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #123

How could that work? HOAs do not get to approve or decline purchasers AFAIK. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #27

I guess an "undesirable" would be any person who gets to the closing... MohRokTah Jul 2014 #33

HOAs get to approve or decline the purchaser if it owns the house/property to be purchased. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #36

Link please. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #41

What do mean link? It's US history of the 50s - 80s. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #53

Link to any story about a HOA purchasing a home. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #54

Uhm...no. You show me a link (from a reputable source) stating TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #69

You made the first claim. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #81

lol, now that's funny 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #98

lol, now that's funny MohRokTah Jul 2014 #101

OMG 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #107

. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #108

there is no burden of proof 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #112

I'm sorry but that poster doesn't have to prove what they say. 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #114

Not really. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #45

I have had clients (mortgage clients) that were required to submit ... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #120

Some were KT2000 Jul 2014 #71

My HOA neighborhood is quite integrated Zambero Jul 2014 #102

Couple of the 1950/60s era HA rules I looked at years ago still had the 'no Negroes allowed' Sunlei Jul 2014 #148

Two bits says his router was the last straw Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #5

Insipid? I don't think that word means what you think it means. MineralMan Jul 2014 #55

I guess you're right again Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #70

My shaper was pretty darned noisy. MineralMan Jul 2014 #75

Shapers are generally powered by induction motors at much slower speed than routers Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #92

I'm no longer doing woodworking. MineralMan Jul 2014 #100

I bet it was a jointer MohRokTah Jul 2014 #56

Not the joiners I've used years after year Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #72

Jointer, not joiner MohRokTah Jul 2014 #83

I'm enjoying my dumb day Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #91

HOA rules usually win in the end jehop61 Jul 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #7

In most HOAs, amending the covenant is nearly impossible MohRokTah Jul 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #13

Precisely. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #24

HOAs are terrible A Little Weird Jul 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #18

Exactly! Ours is great! I'm amazed at what they do for so little fees. The community really looks RKP5637 Jul 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #65

Your HOA sounds a lot like ours. What is not to like? I asked myself. truedelphi Jul 2014 #105

That, is really horrible! Actually, thinking back, I did have sort of an incident once ... RKP5637 Jul 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #118

Boy, am I glad you caught their mistake. But imagine that you were forty years older, truedelphi Jul 2014 #136

Yep, I think a lot of Control Freaks love to get onto HOA boards. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #117

most neighborhoods have an HOA now 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #115

Ours is pretty bad - TBF Jul 2014 #19

Fuck a HOA, the agreement is with the owners not the property TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #20

You're wrong. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #28

I know you are correct on how the scam is set up, I'm talking about how it should be TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #63

What in the world are you on about? nt DURHAM D Jul 2014 #66

If they were limited to the financing of the maintenance of common areas then I'd object less TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #133

You have no clue what a HOA is. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #80

No, I prefer to buy wherever I elect and if the neighborhood club is attractive then I will join it TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #124

Psst, here's a clue... MohRokTah Jul 2014 #125

Which I object to, why should some unelected private government control commerce to such a degree? TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #132

The Board of Directors is elected once the development reaches a level of ownership. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #134

Should have sound-proofed your work room buddy thelordofhell Jul 2014 #21

Yes, if he soundproofs Warpy Jul 2014 #39

Military bases often have "hobby shops" where people can go and do that kind of stuff. MADem Jul 2014 #126

Yep, my thought too. I've used a lot of power tools in my time, and a number of them RKP5637 Jul 2014 #46

Nazi Dictatorship? Really? DonViejo Jul 2014 #31

Yes, a very bad analogy Zambero Jul 2014 #64

You can't just ignore the rules RandiFan1290 Jul 2014 #35

* unless you work for the government. nt bunnies Jul 2014 #90

Now bunnies, just where will truedelphi Jul 2014 #137

Buzzsaw. Loud. Iggo Jul 2014 #38

I wish there was an Hoa like that here. Hatchling Jul 2014 #44

Yep, I was by a house the other day, the guy sets up power tools under a tent in front of this RKP5637 Jul 2014 #50

It's ironic that these neighborhoods are always full of right-wingers who hate government. alarimer Jul 2014 #51

I tend to hate HOAs, but who wants to hear power tools running in a residential neighborhood? Throd Jul 2014 #57

I have avoided homeowner's associations like I would avoid living in a leper colony aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #61

Important to know HOA CC&R's in ADVANCE of moving into a neighborhood Zambero Jul 2014 #62

"My gated community won't let me have my way." conservaphobe Jul 2014 #68

Let's all give a Bronx cheer for the hit and run ridiculous Nazi reference. onenote Jul 2014 #73

I hate HOAs. That said, kiva Jul 2014 #74

Soundproofing or dampening, and filters for the smelly JimDandy Jul 2014 #78

Zoning laws? SheilaT Jul 2014 #77

Misleading Story. The River Jul 2014 #79

It's not just the noise, but the odors. n/t tammywammy Jul 2014 #85

So once again the "media" distorts a story. Archae Jul 2014 #86

For Every Horror Story The River Jul 2014 #96

He did the right thing-got a permit from the HOA JimDandy Jul 2014 #94

Yeah, I thought that was kinda low. Iggo Jul 2014 #99

I stuck my hand in fire and I got burned. The fire is a Nazi for burning me. bunnies Jul 2014 #93

How dramatic.... Ultra_Blue Jul 2014 #97

What gets me is people that join HOAs... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #104

I'm on the Board of Directors of my HOA. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #110

I couldn't find one within the area I wanted to live that didn't have one 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #131

I wouldn't accept a HOA-subject home as a gift. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #116

HOAs are a microcosm of government melm00se Jul 2014 #135

Homeowners Associations are UN-constitutional & oppress people at the local "Small'-Gov. level. Sunlei Jul 2014 #141

HOw are they unconstitutional? brooklynite Jul 2014 #142

HAs prevent -some- people from earning a living from their own home. Sunlei Jul 2014 #145

The City of New York also restricts your ability to run a business in a residential building. brooklynite Jul 2014 #146

small family run businesses used to be the backbone of America. Sunlei Jul 2014 #147

So was child labor. brooklynite Jul 2014 #149

This would fit nicely on a Tea Party blog... brooklynite Jul 2014 #143

That's a pretty loose use of Nazi analogy there Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #144

the thread shows how little empathy humans have these days archaic56 Aug 2014 #150