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kiva

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74. I hate HOAs. That said,

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:13 PM

Jul 2014

he knew what he was getting into when he moved in to the place. I could have bought my house in a 'nicer' neighborhood, a newer house with fewer things to repair - I didn't because I refused to live with an HOA.

For a few years I lived across the street from a guy that did some sort of woodworking - he had saws running off and on 5-6 hours per day, generally 4 days per week. It was somewhat annoying but a) it was a across a pretty wide street b) he only did this after 9am and never after 6pm, and c) I didn't spend a lot of time outside in my yard.

Today I live with closer neighbors who have no sense of time and I spend a lot more time outside, so I wouldn't be happy if one of them decided to set up a workshop and spend hours each day running saws and lathes. If I wanted to live with that, I'd have bought a place zoned commercial.

I agree that he should try to see if he can either get a donated space or ask for help paying for a place to work.

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Nazi Dictatorship...I mean Homeowners Association bans veteran from making furniture... [View all] Archae Jul 2014 OP

Not sure I would want a carpentry shop next door to me. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #1

me either. i live in a townhouse type community so we are real close together. guy tried to do Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #59

He agreed to the rules when he purchased the house. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #2

The rules can change on you after you've bought the house. JimDandy Jul 2014 #76

Then they should have participated in the process. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #82

Changing of a property right can require 100% agreement DURHAM D Jul 2014 #84

Depends upon the state and the HOA. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #87

Changing the covenants is one thing. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #89

A good attorney, yes. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #95

people are so self centered archaic56 Jul 2014 #127

Have another drink. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #128

your derogatory post archaic56 Jul 2014 #139

Comparing CC&Rs of a development to Nazis is offensive, downplays what the nazis did/do. uppityperson Jul 2014 #3

Come on. Preventing some guy from running his buzzsaw at all hours in a residential neighborhood Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #23

Render unto Godwin that which is Godwin's� Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #58

it's become commonplace to label anything bad as 'nazi' Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #60

agreed nt ! steve2470 Jul 2014 #140

This overplaying the Nazi card. TIMETOCHANGE Aug 2014 #151

HOAs were created to keep neighborhoods restricted and segregated.... TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #10

That was said exactly like a member of a HOA would say it. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #15

Every resident of an HOA neighborhood is a member Zambero Jul 2014 #103

They even have rules about what color you can paint your house- Ken Burch Jul 2014 #22

So, people who want to live in a neighborhood with funky-colored houses Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #25

It's not choice, it's coerced conformity. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #30

Wow, I didn't realize that people are forced to buy houses in neighborhoods run by HOAs. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #32

Give us a break, we do not have zoning laws in most of Harris County, Texas so if you Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #130

There was a subdivision in suburban KC that tried to mandate green lawns. delta17 Jul 2014 #88

That has been happening all over. Mariana Jul 2014 #111

I am happy to say state law over ruled the HOA's. My HOA enforced the Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #129

Actually, few HOAs have those sorts of rules these days. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #109

few HOAs have those sort of rules? 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #113

We have an HOA and I'm glad we do. I read the rules in detail, nothing was a surprise. Basically, RKP5637 Jul 2014 #37

Actually they were originally created to DURHAM D Jul 2014 #11

I submit that their purpose evolved in some communities TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #14

What is an undesirable? nt DURHAM D Jul 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #17

I think you will appreciate this. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #67

HOAs collect fees from members and then use those fees to TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #29

The only undesirable is someone who does not pay their dues. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #34

The undesireable was anyone not like the majority of the members of the HOA. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #42

Disputes with the Board do not negate the requirement to pay dues. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #47

Do you own a home in an HOA? DURHAM D Jul 2014 #48

Got a link to HOAs buying soon to be vacant homes? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #40

It's illegal to do that now. But some HOA agreements are so complicated TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #49

HOA agreements are very straight forward MohRokTah Jul 2014 #52

Some HOA's have a Right Of First Refusal which, as the other poster hinted, can be used.. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #119

That's why the ROFR for HOAs is now longer legal in Illinois. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #121

Do you have a link to ROFR being illegal in Illinois? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #122

My apologies, I reviewed the booklet from the meeting the Board and I attended. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #123

How could that work? HOAs do not get to approve or decline purchasers AFAIK. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #27

I guess an "undesirable" would be any person who gets to the closing... MohRokTah Jul 2014 #33

HOAs get to approve or decline the purchaser if it owns the house/property to be purchased. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #36

Link please. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #41

What do mean link? It's US history of the 50s - 80s. TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #53

Link to any story about a HOA purchasing a home. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #54

Uhm...no. You show me a link (from a reputable source) stating TheDebbieDee Jul 2014 #69

You made the first claim. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #81

lol, now that's funny 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #98

lol, now that's funny MohRokTah Jul 2014 #101

OMG 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #107

. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #108

there is no burden of proof 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #112

I'm sorry but that poster doesn't have to prove what they say. 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #114

Not really. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #45

I have had clients (mortgage clients) that were required to submit ... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #120

Some were KT2000 Jul 2014 #71

My HOA neighborhood is quite integrated Zambero Jul 2014 #102

Couple of the 1950/60s era HA rules I looked at years ago still had the 'no Negroes allowed' Sunlei Jul 2014 #148

Two bits says his router was the last straw Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #5

Insipid? I don't think that word means what you think it means. MineralMan Jul 2014 #55

I guess you're right again Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #70

My shaper was pretty darned noisy. MineralMan Jul 2014 #75

Shapers are generally powered by induction motors at much slower speed than routers Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #92

I'm no longer doing woodworking. MineralMan Jul 2014 #100

I bet it was a jointer MohRokTah Jul 2014 #56

Not the joiners I've used years after year Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #72

Jointer, not joiner MohRokTah Jul 2014 #83

I'm enjoying my dumb day Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #91

HOA rules usually win in the end jehop61 Jul 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #7

In most HOAs, amending the covenant is nearly impossible MohRokTah Jul 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #13

Precisely. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #24

HOAs are terrible A Little Weird Jul 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #18

Exactly! Ours is great! I'm amazed at what they do for so little fees. The community really looks RKP5637 Jul 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #65

Your HOA sounds a lot like ours. What is not to like? I asked myself. truedelphi Jul 2014 #105

That, is really horrible! Actually, thinking back, I did have sort of an incident once ... RKP5637 Jul 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #118

Boy, am I glad you caught their mistake. But imagine that you were forty years older, truedelphi Jul 2014 #136

Yep, I think a lot of Control Freaks love to get onto HOA boards. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #117

most neighborhoods have an HOA now 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #115

Ours is pretty bad - TBF Jul 2014 #19

Fuck a HOA, the agreement is with the owners not the property TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #20

You're wrong. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #28

I know you are correct on how the scam is set up, I'm talking about how it should be TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #63

What in the world are you on about? nt DURHAM D Jul 2014 #66

If they were limited to the financing of the maintenance of common areas then I'd object less TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #133

You have no clue what a HOA is. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #80

No, I prefer to buy wherever I elect and if the neighborhood club is attractive then I will join it TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #124

Psst, here's a clue... MohRokTah Jul 2014 #125

Which I object to, why should some unelected private government control commerce to such a degree? TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #132

The Board of Directors is elected once the development reaches a level of ownership. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #134

Should have sound-proofed your work room buddy thelordofhell Jul 2014 #21

Yes, if he soundproofs Warpy Jul 2014 #39

Military bases often have "hobby shops" where people can go and do that kind of stuff. MADem Jul 2014 #126

Yep, my thought too. I've used a lot of power tools in my time, and a number of them RKP5637 Jul 2014 #46

Nazi Dictatorship? Really? DonViejo Jul 2014 #31

Yes, a very bad analogy Zambero Jul 2014 #64

You can't just ignore the rules RandiFan1290 Jul 2014 #35

* unless you work for the government. nt bunnies Jul 2014 #90

Now bunnies, just where will truedelphi Jul 2014 #137

Buzzsaw. Loud. Iggo Jul 2014 #38

I wish there was an Hoa like that here. Hatchling Jul 2014 #44

Yep, I was by a house the other day, the guy sets up power tools under a tent in front of this RKP5637 Jul 2014 #50

It's ironic that these neighborhoods are always full of right-wingers who hate government. alarimer Jul 2014 #51

I tend to hate HOAs, but who wants to hear power tools running in a residential neighborhood? Throd Jul 2014 #57

I have avoided homeowner's associations like I would avoid living in a leper colony aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #61

Important to know HOA CC&R's in ADVANCE of moving into a neighborhood Zambero Jul 2014 #62

"My gated community won't let me have my way." conservaphobe Jul 2014 #68

Let's all give a Bronx cheer for the hit and run ridiculous Nazi reference. onenote Jul 2014 #73

I hate HOAs. That said, kiva Jul 2014 #74

Soundproofing or dampening, and filters for the smelly JimDandy Jul 2014 #78

Zoning laws? SheilaT Jul 2014 #77

Misleading Story. The River Jul 2014 #79

It's not just the noise, but the odors. n/t tammywammy Jul 2014 #85

So once again the "media" distorts a story. Archae Jul 2014 #86

For Every Horror Story The River Jul 2014 #96

He did the right thing-got a permit from the HOA JimDandy Jul 2014 #94

Yeah, I thought that was kinda low. Iggo Jul 2014 #99

I stuck my hand in fire and I got burned. The fire is a Nazi for burning me. bunnies Jul 2014 #93

How dramatic.... Ultra_Blue Jul 2014 #97

What gets me is people that join HOAs... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #104

I'm on the Board of Directors of my HOA. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #110

I couldn't find one within the area I wanted to live that didn't have one 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #131

I wouldn't accept a HOA-subject home as a gift. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #116

HOAs are a microcosm of government melm00se Jul 2014 #135

Homeowners Associations are UN-constitutional & oppress people at the local "Small'-Gov. level. Sunlei Jul 2014 #141

HOw are they unconstitutional? brooklynite Jul 2014 #142

HAs prevent -some- people from earning a living from their own home. Sunlei Jul 2014 #145

The City of New York also restricts your ability to run a business in a residential building. brooklynite Jul 2014 #146

small family run businesses used to be the backbone of America. Sunlei Jul 2014 #147

So was child labor. brooklynite Jul 2014 #149

This would fit nicely on a Tea Party blog... brooklynite Jul 2014 #143

That's a pretty loose use of Nazi analogy there Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #144

the thread shows how little empathy humans have these days archaic56 Aug 2014 #150