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TygrBright

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21. A case can doubtless be made...

Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:52 AM

Jul 2014

...that we should refrain from "shaming" people who get off on reading about rape, about domestic violence, about necrophilia, pedophilia, etc., presumably so long as they don't actually engage in any of those activities.

The point here is not that people in the book do kinky stuff.

Kink is great, no one should get "shamed" for enjoying kink, per se.

Kink used as a tool to manipulate, abuse, isolate, and skeeve on other people is another kettle of fish.

And by dressing up the skeevy shit as "just kink" the author serves neither the cause of sexual liberation nor of literature.

patiently,
Bright

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"50 Shades": A feminist/BDSM Guide to Why it's Skeevy as Hell [View all] TygrBright Jul 2014 OP

Thank YOU! DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #1

Most welcome. I don't think the average American mind is "weak," but... TygrBright Jul 2014 #3

True. It's due to the puritanical ethic. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #53

The author is English, I think. n/t Laelth Jul 2014 #40

maybe but DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #47

I put a link to the books online on the other thread. bravenak Jul 2014 #2

Well, that certainly is a shout-out to the origin of the work. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #9

I know, right? bravenak Jul 2014 #15

So what ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #4

BDSM practitioners CAN be a bit doctrinaire... TygrBright Jul 2014 #6

It's just another anti 50 Shades thread ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #11

By "people who like this stuff," do you mean... TygrBright Jul 2014 #18

"People who like skeevy manipulative controlling cliche's about kink? ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #20

A case can doubtless be made... TygrBright Jul 2014 #21

Exactly. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #54

+1 historylovr Jul 2014 #60

I think both versions of Cape Fear are good movies Scootaloo Jul 2014 #31

... nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #33

It's not my business ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #42

Yes, one of us had to grow up watching a woman through fifteen years of physical and emotional abuse Scootaloo Jul 2014 #46

So what? A book that promotes rape and sexual violence and you reaction is so what? pnwmom Jul 2014 #50

Donna Read with buttplugs! Love it! Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #5

Wow! Now I'm gonna have THAT in my head whenever I see a clip on YouTube... n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #7

the gonorrhea show Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #8

As I've said, I hope to God/dess no one is using this as BDSM 101 material. moriah Jul 2014 #10

Check out Cliff's brilliant summaries and you'll never need to read it. TygrBright Jul 2014 #12

You missed the big message! Hissyspit Jul 2014 #36

gotta love Dave Berry. and Yes, THE MONEY is the most attractive character in all this. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #45

'Strewf! Dave Barry hits it outta the park yet again. Enough money makes anything sexy. n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #49

The feminist here OBJECT TO THE ABUSE. Not to the sex. (Which, by the way is terrifically boring.) Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #16

That's why I referred to those who had not confined their judgments.... moriah Jul 2014 #23

Examples, please? TDale313 Jul 2014 #27

Uh, how about equating BDSM to fucking a couch cushion, claiming it takes away all intimacy? moriah Jul 2014 #28

Fair enough. Disagree with that take on BDSM. TDale313 Jul 2014 #30

I read the book. Kablooie Jul 2014 #13

It's badly written porn for women who have been married too long Warpy Jul 2014 #14

"It's badly written porn for women who have been married too long" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #22

Might be Sherman A1 Jul 2014 #24

Here's a snynopsis of the book BainsBane Jul 2014 #17

Thanks. Another excellent summary. n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #19

Here's another one: Hissyspit Jul 2014 #37

I can't imagine how this became a best seller A Little Weird Jul 2014 #25

That might just be the funniest damn thing I've read all year arcane1 Jul 2014 #56

LOL A Little Weird Jul 2014 #57

Thanks for that link! I love HyperboleAndAHalf! n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #58

Marketing. historylovr Jul 2014 #59

How I do love a good book review.... Hekate Jul 2014 #26

Sometimes one picture can say everything there is to be said on a subject Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2014 #29

Oh my god i'm dying Scootaloo Jul 2014 #32

You could read that Aerows Jul 2014 #35

Yes, the kid gets it! So did your post here: freshwest Jul 2014 #44

Not my business Aerows Jul 2014 #34

Exactly. Not only is it skeevy, the writing is ludicrously bad. n/t TygrBright Jul 2014 #52

As I've been educated, it is not BDSM, it is not consensual steve2470 Jul 2014 #38

What the hell does Donna Reed even know about Buttplugs? In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #39

But can he give the reading true justice? Revanchist Jul 2014 #41

Best post ever on this lame subject! DUZY! MineralMan Jul 2014 #43

It is a book about abuse, not sex. From a study of the book at Ohio State. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #48

the last post was the only right one archaic56 Jul 2014 #51

I agree--volumteering at a battered women's shelter would be a good idea for them. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #55

we have lost our humanity archaic56 Jul 2014 #61

Totally agree marions ghost Jul 2014 #62