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Gidney N Cloyd

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98. The discussion here keeps conflating BDSM in general with a bad piece of "literature."

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Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:48 AM

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Consensual BDSM does not equal rape and sexual torture. [View all] Kurska Jul 2014 OP

Go on... Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #1

Just breath in that fresh thread smell brother Kurska Jul 2014 #4

Sometimes it does. bravenak Jul 2014 #2

Consensual BDSM Kurska Jul 2014 #5

Because sometimes people change their minds and it doesn't stop. bravenak Jul 2014 #8

And what exactly are we talking about anymore? Kurska Jul 2014 #12

You know what Kurska, my bad. bravenak Jul 2014 #18

You don't know that it's consensual BainsBane Jul 2014 #41

That's the argument treestar Jul 2014 #104

Apparently? Do tell. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #3

I would also like links, as well. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #7

I don't think anything like that is kosher for DU. Kurska Jul 2014 #14

So you're not going to add content to your click-bait? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #22

I'm not getting what content you want me to add. Kurska Jul 2014 #28

No? here's your OP. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #32

So you want me to link to individual Duers posts and call them out? Kurska Jul 2014 #34

Isn't this entire thread supposed to be such a call-out? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #40

The author says the character wants it and it was consensual and you're saying it is rape. Kurska Jul 2014 #42

I'm saying the author is completely full of shit, yes Scootaloo Jul 2014 #49

Honestly, this has to be a joke. Kurska Jul 2014 #51

Look at it this way. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #67

I'm sorry, but when a debate about a fictious possible, maybe or maybe not rape turns to starwars Kurska Jul 2014 #72

Enjoy the cake, Kurska. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #74

I had no desire to read the book ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #97

Apparently... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #101

A few times, Ana makes herself sexually available out of fear of getting hit Scootaloo Jul 2014 #105

Don't ignore me. bravenak Jul 2014 #50

I'd never dream of it. Kurska Jul 2014 #52

Awesome!!!nt bravenak Jul 2014 #57

Seriously though, if there is a bad thing it can be linked to twilight. Kurska Jul 2014 #60

I think that's why it's so bad. Twilight. bravenak Jul 2014 #65

"Yoda or Yeti" Why or? Kurska Jul 2014 #66

Damn you are brilliant! bravenak Jul 2014 #69

You know a BDSM book is good, when reading it is torture. Kurska Jul 2014 #75

Starting it tonight!! bravenak Jul 2014 #95

Almost certain I've seen that one Scootaloo Jul 2014 #76

That is a face only a mother could write erotica about Kurska Jul 2014 #82

Aaaaaand we're done Scootaloo Jul 2014 #87

The lady who writes Bigfoot Porn pulls down like 50K a month on Amazon. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #107

Well said. LittleBlue Jul 2014 #6

While I haven't read that piece of garbage book BainsBane Jul 2014 #9

You're saying a book you haven't read has rape in it. Kurska Jul 2014 #11

Neither of us have read it BainsBane Jul 2014 #13

The onus is on me to prove the book doesn't have rape in it? Kurska Jul 2014 #15

Let's review BainsBane Jul 2014 #24

"women in particular, by shaming them for their sexuality in calling them prudes." WHAT Kurska Jul 2014 #26

Most of those voicing concerns about the film are feminists BainsBane Jul 2014 #38

"Calling someone a prude is shaming them for their sexuality." Since when? Kurska Jul 2014 #44

Accordng to the synopsis of the book BainsBane Jul 2014 #77

You don't have to read the whole book to learn that it includes rape. pnwmom Jul 2014 #85

If the rape is depicted as wrong and NOT the way BDSM is supposed to work... moriah Jul 2014 #16

These are not people. It's a book and a movie BainsBane Jul 2014 #31

Judge rape all you want, but you can't deny.... moriah Jul 2014 #33

What generalization is that? BainsBane Jul 2014 #39

I never said that, I discussed yours and others making casual sweeping statements about BDSM. moriah Jul 2014 #43

Okay BainsBane Jul 2014 #56

The (dominant) guy I'm seeing is going to school, himself. moriah Jul 2014 #61

This synopsis of the book says it bears little relation to real life BDSM BainsBane Jul 2014 #78

Both my mother and my fiance have read the books... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #23

I read it. bravenak Jul 2014 #46

You're not the only one Bravenak Scootaloo Jul 2014 #53

"anthropomorphized egret" the furries would love it. Kurska Jul 2014 #58

It's all about targeting a market. n/t Scootaloo Jul 2014 #73

"anthropomorphized egret" bravenak Jul 2014 #62

Have you ever seen Nostalgia Chick's "Fifty Shades of Green" series? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #70

Will do it tonight.nt bravenak Jul 2014 #71

Maybe you can handle all the Mary Sues, I can't. moriah Jul 2014 #55

Anna Was Worse! bravenak Jul 2014 #59

... if all of this debate forces me to find a pirated copy online to read.... moriah Jul 2014 #64

Bigger box the better. bravenak Jul 2014 #68

Thanks. That's helpful BainsBane Jul 2014 #79

No problemo.nt bravenak Jul 2014 #81

50 Shades doesn't indicate "Safe Play" BDSM. joshcryer Jul 2014 #10

I find it disingenuous chervilant Jul 2014 #17

"media depictions of rape" Kurska Jul 2014 #19

Really, Kurska?!? chervilant Jul 2014 #21

But.. Kurska Jul 2014 #30

There is no rape in 50 Shades. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2014 #25

There is. bravenak Jul 2014 #48

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #102

A few people at the margin will always critisize lifestyle choices like BDSM. pa28 Jul 2014 #20

And 50 Shades of Gray is about rape and abuse. The author hasn't a clue about BDSM. Her "hero" is an Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #27

Can you tell me where the rape in 50 shades of grey is? Kurska Jul 2014 #29

the coercion a rich man can do DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #54

It as been pointed out several times but here is more... Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #109

Not sure what has been posted here lately about BDSM darkangel218 Jul 2014 #35

Absolutely true, but not at all what is depicted in 50 shades of Grey. TDale313 Jul 2014 #94

Okay. bravenak Jul 2014 #36

Sorry....but that is not a rape scene. I suggest you read the whole scene, rather msanthrope Jul 2014 #99

She does break up with him at the end. bravenak Jul 2014 #100

I agree: as long as everyone is a mentally competent adult not under the infuence of drugs o alcohol bluestateguy Jul 2014 #37

Absolutely! Unfortunately, "50 Shades" is not about consensual BDSM. TygrBright Jul 2014 #45

Thank you. Very well put. n/t TDale313 Jul 2014 #80

Yes, one would think ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #47

But some people would rather not engage in this activity ... Kablooie Jul 2014 #63

Preach on ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #83

The book depicts NON-CONSENSUAL RAPE BainsBane Jul 2014 #84

I know this is hard for some to believe ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #86

What is this OP about? BainsBane Jul 2014 #88

Some people "consensually" role play that fantasy. ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #90

Some people travel to the Moon BainsBane Jul 2014 #96

What the hell? AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #89

It's usually the prudish people that are into it... philip.chinery Jul 2014 #91

I've known some hard core couples that are really into it.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #92

The discussion here keeps conflating BDSM in general with a bad piece of "literature." Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #98

Do you have to be prudish to be against that stuff? treestar Jul 2014 #103

Wow Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #106

I don't like pain treestar Jul 2014 #108

Yeah, I mentioned that to a couple of people too. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #110

Yep. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #111