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In reply to the discussion: Lawsuit claims: On a “mission from God,” George W. planned to “take out” 7 countries in 5 years. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)93. This is similar to a piece by Clark I posted to clear some things up in the BOG:
Those who seek to make the case that the President is doing a Bush - Cheney PNAC action will fail. He is not their man.
He has not, and will not, do as they want. They will never forgive him for not being their servant...
I made an OP out of my reply here, and just added more information:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017143855#post21
Video leaves impression of Clark verified Obama's proposed action was planned in 2001. That is not correct, as PNAC planned that in 1997.
The video has no date mentioned, making it appear new. I found the same video posted in 2011. It is video of a Democracy Now interview March 2, 2007.
Thus the premise the video channel is promoting is incorrect...
I hope this will enlighten anyone here upset by it as it would be easy to be disturbed by this seeming to be coming out now. But it did not come out 'now.'
I noticed the comments on youtube, and there is more than one copy of this, that people are falling for this error. A quick google of 'Democracy Now, Clark, Seven Countries in Five Years, Syria,' etc. yields a more factual picture than an undated video.
Re: Mog and Magog.
That has been part of American churches for many years. At once it was thought to be symbolic. But in the Reagan era it morphed into definite nation states, one of them being Russia. Soon China was added to the list of nations in their End Times theology.
Various interpretations gave physical locations of many events that were once considered in the spiritual realm and claims associated Communism with Satan, just as the JBS aslways did. This has not stopped.
Bush was said to have quit drugging and drinking after being converted to his present way of thinking by a far right wing fringe pastor in Austin, Texas. This happens to many who have sought relief from life's problems in religion, but can be guided to very dark places by the same.
Religion turned from what I grew up with in Texas to a toxic blend of racism, politics, warmongering and supporters of torture
There were always such elements in churches, but many had gone through a reformation as described here, which I posted on:
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025253521
He has not, and will not, do as they want. They will never forgive him for not being their servant...
I made an OP out of my reply here, and just added more information:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017143855#post21
Video leaves impression of Clark verified Obama's proposed action was planned in 2001. That is not correct, as PNAC planned that in 1997.
The video has no date mentioned, making it appear new. I found the same video posted in 2011. It is video of a Democracy Now interview March 2, 2007.
Thus the premise the video channel is promoting is incorrect...
I hope this will enlighten anyone here upset by it as it would be easy to be disturbed by this seeming to be coming out now. But it did not come out 'now.'
I noticed the comments on youtube, and there is more than one copy of this, that people are falling for this error. A quick google of 'Democracy Now, Clark, Seven Countries in Five Years, Syria,' etc. yields a more factual picture than an undated video.
Re: Mog and Magog.
That has been part of American churches for many years. At once it was thought to be symbolic. But in the Reagan era it morphed into definite nation states, one of them being Russia. Soon China was added to the list of nations in their End Times theology.
Various interpretations gave physical locations of many events that were once considered in the spiritual realm and claims associated Communism with Satan, just as the JBS aslways did. This has not stopped.
Bush was said to have quit drugging and drinking after being converted to his present way of thinking by a far right wing fringe pastor in Austin, Texas. This happens to many who have sought relief from life's problems in religion, but can be guided to very dark places by the same.
Religion turned from what I grew up with in Texas to a toxic blend of racism, politics, warmongering and supporters of torture
There were always such elements in churches, but many had gone through a reformation as described here, which I posted on:
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025253521
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Lawsuit claims: On a “mission from God,” George W. planned to “take out” 7 countries in 5 years. [View all]
pnwmom
Jul 2014
OP
I read the other day a man with termincal cancer will go to prison for growing pot for his pain
randys1
Jul 2014
#2
This is similar to a piece by Clark I posted to clear some things up in the BOG:
freshwest
Jul 2014
#93
Consider the source. We all knew about PNAC years ago and know about Luke Rudkowski of '9/11 TRUTH.'
freshwest
Jul 2014
#120
Wash Post, I had not heard the God & Magog bit before, but sadly it does not surprise me
peacebird
Jul 2014
#8
Yes, and rides around on that damn bicycle of his..like nothing he did ever went wrong.
Jefferson23
Jul 2014
#61
His only success in life has been utter failure and ruination of so much...the effects seem endless.
NRaleighLiberal
Jul 2014
#9
Pity the Democrats didn't go after him, Cheney, Rummy et.al. for war crimes once they were
Louisiana1976
Jul 2014
#104
In the past century, many Western Christians thought the end of the World had come as
DhhD
Jul 2014
#27
Bwah! His own special picture Bible. I can see the parting of the Red bathtub.
valerief
Jul 2014
#37
I think Gen. Clark's statement was not political but historical recollection.
Legalequilibrium78
Jul 2014
#47
If bush and co. find their way out of this lawsuit I will never trust the courts again. This is
jwirr
Jul 2014
#18
John Kennedy was fine, and Jimmy Carter, and so were most Democratic Presidents,
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#98
We all didn't buy it. Millions around protesting against a potential war didn't buy it.
valerief
Jul 2014
#69
No one here bought it, airc. We KNEW they were lying from the beginning. In fact many were
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#135
The Second Amended Complaint Specifies The History And Specific Claims Well
cantbeserious
Jul 2014
#64
For those who don't understand why there is so much animosity toward "faith" on DU, see Bush's
Arugula Latte
Jul 2014
#66
Premillenialism only ever took off in the US (and recently, and often quite casually)
MisterP
Jul 2014
#76
And yet there are those who still scorn the notion that Bushco would MIHOP. If W saw it as part of
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#84
Wesley Clark's interview 2007 Democracy Now....went into detail about these countries.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#88
I remember it, too. Maybe this lawsuit will turn the tide -- if it doesn't get dismissed.
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#100
It's been reported junior blew up frogs as a child. Gog and Magog had to be blown
indepat
Jul 2014
#96
Yes. And that is a concern about TPP, if it gets approved without a thorough airing. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#102
Have the memos been proven to exist? If not this will be a difficult case to prove. nt
cstanleytech
Jul 2014
#138
General Clark could give sworn testimony in court. He would have to name the General
pnwmom
Jul 2014
#139
Sad that no political party in the US had the courage to hold those responsible
whereisjustice
Jul 2014
#147