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Jim Lane

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64. FYI this post survived an alert

Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:02 PM

Jul 2014

I was Juror #5. I disagree with randome's post, I disagree with the decision to hide it, I disagree with your post, and I disagree with the decision not to hide it.

On Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Not enough? You American?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5297169

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

WTF? Way to make this over the top personal. Extremely rude personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:06 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Just like the reporter, I felt this post made the issue personal for no good reason at all. The OP was simply trying to discuss the I/P issue.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is no personal attack here.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The (now hidden) post by randome criticized Israelis for not sufficiently disrupting their personal lives to protest a government policy. I don't buy that argument, but I would not have hidden the post. Given that it was hidden, however, I don't think it fair that this response in kind be allowed to stand. If randome's post were still visible, then I would vote to leave this one alone as well.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: reasonable response in context
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seems that this poster isn't the first or the only one to "take this over the top personal." I'll give it a pass considering the rest of the emotional opinions in the thread.

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'No more deaths': Thousands of Israelis protest the Gaza war [View all] Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 OP

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #1

Why should they renounce their faith just because some people Live and Learn Jul 2014 #2

Why? To make a powerful statement. randome Jul 2014 #9

"Why not renounce your faith" oberliner Jul 2014 #3

OMG! Look who dropped into GD! Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #8

Took an extended break from DU oberliner Jul 2014 #62

Not enough? You American? Bonobo Jul 2014 #5

I wasn't in a situation where renouncing anything would help. randome Jul 2014 #10

Cop out. Bonobo Jul 2014 #28

I did not do zip. I probably didn't do as much as I could have, no argument there. randome Jul 2014 #33

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #53

FYI this post survived an alert Jim Lane Jul 2014 #64

...None of which stopped a war, ever. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #6

Israel SAYS they are killing in the name of a faith. randome Jul 2014 #11

No, they don't Scootaloo Jul 2014 #14

You really think Judaism has nothing to do with this? randome Jul 2014 #18

Yes, I really think Judaism has nothing to do with this. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #43

Where does Israel say that? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #21

They don't. Did George Zimmerman freely confess to a hate crime? randome Jul 2014 #25

You seem somewhat confused. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #38

It is jerks like Netanyahu that CLAIM to speak for Israel and CLAIM that this is an act of faith! cascadiance Jul 2014 #63

Using that logic, shouldn't Palestinians give up their faith? Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #7

If both sides renounced their faith in large enough numbers, I believe it would help. randome Jul 2014 #12

Dreamer.... Live and Learn Jul 2014 #17

So take away their power to use religion as a pretext and you've weakened them slightly. randome Jul 2014 #19

Isn't that the very definition of blackmail? nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #22

I have nothing against blackmail when it's directed at murderers! randome Jul 2014 #24

The protestors aren't the murderers. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #39

How about believing in something simpler? In being kind to people? randome Jul 2014 #41

Like how atheists should renounce atheism because of Mao and Stalin N/T Chathamization Jul 2014 #45

Did they kill in the name of unbelief? randome Jul 2014 #46

Yes. Therefore, atheists need to denounce atheism. And the Left needs to denounce the Left Chathamization Jul 2014 #50

Lone nutcases do not approach the scale of what is happening with Israel/Palestine. randome Jul 2014 #52

Sorry, the communist parties of China and Russia were not "lone nutcases." So, time for atheists and Chathamization Jul 2014 #55

Faith has nothing to do with this mess Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #13

And guns have nothing to do with murder. randome Jul 2014 #15

Except that they make it easier to do and much faster. That is a fact. nt Live and Learn Jul 2014 #20

So does religion. So long as people believe in magic words and sacred listologies, it will continue. randome Jul 2014 #26

Funny, people have always believed in something and Live and Learn Jul 2014 #30

What do guns have to do with faith? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #36

It is not about those things. Hamas is virtually irrelevant. randome Jul 2014 #37

Everybody wants the land. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #42

Israel violates so many international laws, I would not trust anything they say. randome Jul 2014 #44

And you say Hamas is virtually irrelevant. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #47

How many people have they killed with their firecrackers? randome Jul 2014 #48

Do you think relevance is based on body counts? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #56

Some of these protesters are being followed after the demos... countryjake Jul 2014 #16

Well, I have no religion because I believe it is intellectually demeaning to hold onto one. randome Jul 2014 #23

Renouncing what you believe to be truth is abhorrent itself. Live and Learn Jul 2014 #27

A lot of those Europeans who first settled America were pretty unsavory characters. randome Jul 2014 #29

Well, you are entitled to your beliefs and suppositions even Live and Learn Jul 2014 #32

The blood of every one of those Palestinians is on our hands, too. countryjake Jul 2014 #31

No, I don't. But I'm open to suggestions. randome Jul 2014 #35

And perhaps it was our own bulldozers were used to kill our own citizens there too! cascadiance Jul 2014 #65

Here's one more... countryjake Jul 2014 #4

DUly RECommended Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #34

K & R malaise Jul 2014 #40

They need to vote out Likud Skidmore Jul 2014 #49

rec think Jul 2014 #51

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #54

Good to see. n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #57

Those Israelis are the ones who should be running Israel. The world would be a far better place. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #58

Bibi got a whopping 23% of the vote: everyone tried everything in their power and it didn't work MisterP Jul 2014 #61

An interesting fact about a multi-party system: a minority can wield tremendous power Hekate Jul 2014 #67

K&R woo me with science Jul 2014 #59

Its 52 miles riverwalker Jul 2014 #60

Thanks, Violet. Thanks so much. Hekate Jul 2014 #66