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In reply to the discussion: UN Official Calls Out David Gregory For Using Unconfirmed Israeli Propaganda Video [View all]Uncle Joe
(65,291 posts)37. I don't know, oberliner, perhaps it's just mowing the lawn or ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to
call it.
On a thread by muriel_volestrangler.
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025293517
(snip)
Israel received another blow on 2 June, when a new Palestinian Authority government was inaugurated, following the April reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah. Hamas endorsed the new government even though it was given no cabinet posts and the governments composition and political programme were virtually indistinguishable from its predecessors. With barely a protest from the Islamists, Abbas repeatedly and loudly proclaimed that the government accepted the Middle East Quartets demands: that it recognise Israel, renounce violence and adhere to past agreements. He also announced that Palestinian security forces in the West Bank would continue their security collaboration with Israel. When both Washington and Brussels signalled their intention to co-operate with the new government, alarm bells went off in Israel. Its usual assertions that Palestinian negotiators spoke only for themselves and would therefore prove incapable of implementing any agreement had begun to look shaky: the Palestinian leadership could now claim not only to represent both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip but also to have co-opted Hamas into supporting a negotiated two-state settlement, if not the Oslo framework as a whole. There might soon be increased international pressure on Israel to negotiate seriously with Abbas. The formaldehyde was beginning to evaporate.
At this point Netanyahu seized on the 12 June disappearance of three young Israelis in the West Bank like a drowning man thrown a lifebelt. Despite clear evidence presented to him by the Israeli security forces that the three teenagers were already dead, and no evidence to date that Hamas was involved, he held Hamas directly responsible and launched a hostage rescue operation throughout the West Bank. It was really an organised military rampage. It included the killing of at least six Palestinians, none of whom was accused of involvement in the disappearances; mass arrests, including the arrest of Hamas parliamentarians and the re-arrest of detainees released in 2011; the demolition of a number of houses and the looting of others; and a variety of other depredations of the kind Israels finest have honed to perfection during decades of occupation. Netanyahu whipped up a demagogic firestorm against the Palestinians, and the subsequent abduction and burning alive of a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem cannot and should not be separated from this incitement.
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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n15/mouin-rabbani/israel-mows-the-lawn
On a thread by WillyT
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025290438
A Refreshingly Open Call For Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestinians From An Israeli Deputy Speaker - RS
Ok. Back to the fun stuff. Feiglin wrote an op-ed on Tuesday http://www.jewishisrael.org/outline-solution-israels-gaza-problem-moshe-feiglin/?utm_source=Moshe%20Feiglin%27s%20Outline%20for%20Solution%20in%20Gaza&utm_campaign=update&utm_medium=email in which he revealed his hopes and dreams for the future of Israel and the demise of Palestinians in Gaza. The headline is My Outline for a Solution in Gaza. And the subheadline reads Clear and concise, the steps towards achieving quiet in Gaza. I was immediately impressed by his candor in aspiring towards quiet, not peace. Peace, which requires an end to fighting, is such a cliche. But quiet, which can be achieved through muzzling, silencing, or killing, is so much better. Think about how much better it sounds. We will have quiet, we will because we must All we are saying, is give quiet a chance Whats so funny about quiet, love and understanding? No justice, no quiet!
Feiglin doesnt mince his words. In fact, he puts his demands in bold, literally and metaphorically. And his seven lofty quiet-achieving goals are:
1.Ultimatum
2.Attack
3.Siege
4.Defense (because why not?)
5.Conquer
6.Elimination
7.Sovereignty
Two things are for certain regarding the rockets.
1. Israel's Iron Dome has been very effective.
2. The rockets are very crude if not extremely ineffective.
So you have to ask yourself is it worth blowing up a school, potentially killing innocent civilians, men, women and children because of such a low potential threat?
Logic dictates to me that only if you wish to eliminate in one form or another the peoples from that region, if not by killing them, then by degrading their society to such a point that you drive them away.
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UN Official Calls Out David Gregory For Using Unconfirmed Israeli Propaganda Video [View all]
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
OP
They were looking for someone who would enjoy dancing with Karl Rove on the dance floor and for
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#4
It's all public relations with them, they don't fundamentally disagree with Gregory even today,
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#10
As the person who actually has to go on air and discuss the issues, he has plenty to say
Fla Dem
Jul 2014
#12
I agree, Fla Dem but the producers know what kind of person, they hire in the first place.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#14
He is not innocent... But he may only be the on air talent and not have much of a say
Evergreen Emerald
Jul 2014
#33
The Usual Propaganda... Is Starting To Become Ineffective... What Happens Next Will Be Interesting
WillyT
Jul 2014
#16
I believe the Internet; is what's happening next, and that's why they're fighting it.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#19
He is going to lose his job..boo hoo.He never learned how to cloak it well to come off as impartial.
Jefferson23
Jul 2014
#18
I agree, Jefferson, Gregory's major problem was his inability to "cloak" it's like the
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#27
I think so, and he has the added problem of coming off uninformed..this is aside from his right
Jefferson23
Jul 2014
#32
I would be surprised if they didn't hire him, should Gregory actually be fired from NBC. n/t
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#34
I don't know, oberliner, perhaps it's just mowing the lawn or ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#37
Just went through a lot of that guy's writings at the last link. The dude is batshit crazy!
freshwest
Jul 2014
#41
Their own Tea Party Taliban, like here. It's catering to religious fanaticism.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#46
That's true and then the UN confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#44