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Uncle Joe

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37. I don't know, oberliner, perhaps it's just mowing the lawn or ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jul 2014

call it.

On a thread by muriel_volestrangler.



http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025293517

(snip)

Israel received another blow on 2 June, when a new Palestinian Authority government was inaugurated, following the April reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah. Hamas endorsed the new government even though it was given no cabinet posts and the government’s composition and political programme were virtually indistinguishable from its predecessor’s. With barely a protest from the Islamists, Abbas repeatedly and loudly proclaimed that the government accepted the Middle East Quartet’s demands: that it recognise Israel, renounce violence and adhere to past agreements. He also announced that Palestinian security forces in the West Bank would continue their security collaboration with Israel. When both Washington and Brussels signalled their intention to co-operate with the new government, alarm bells went off in Israel. Its usual assertions that Palestinian negotiators spoke only for themselves – and would therefore prove incapable of implementing any agreement – had begun to look shaky: the Palestinian leadership could now claim not only to represent both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip but also to have co-opted Hamas into supporting a negotiated two-state settlement, if not the Oslo framework as a whole. There might soon be increased international pressure on Israel to negotiate seriously with Abbas. The formaldehyde was beginning to evaporate.

At this point Netanyahu seized on the 12 June disappearance of three young Israelis in the West Bank like a drowning man thrown a lifebelt. Despite clear evidence presented to him by the Israeli security forces that the three teenagers were already dead, and no evidence to date that Hamas was involved, he held Hamas directly responsible and launched a ‘hostage rescue operation’ throughout the West Bank. It was really an organised military rampage. It included the killing of at least six Palestinians, none of whom was accused of involvement in the disappearances; mass arrests, including the arrest of Hamas parliamentarians and the re-arrest of detainees released in 2011; the demolition of a number of houses and the looting of others; and a variety of other depredations of the kind Israel’s finest have honed to perfection during decades of occupation. Netanyahu whipped up a demagogic firestorm against the Palestinians, and the subsequent abduction and burning alive of a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem cannot and should not be separated from this incitement.

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n15/mouin-rabbani/israel-mows-the-lawn



On a thread by WillyT




http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10025290438

A Refreshingly Open Call For Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestinians From An Israeli Deputy Speaker - RS

Ok. Back to the fun stuff. Feiglin wrote an op-ed on Tuesday http://www.jewishisrael.org/outline-solution-israels-gaza-problem-moshe-feiglin/?utm_source=Moshe%20Feiglin%27s%20Outline%20for%20Solution%20in%20Gaza&utm_campaign=update&utm_medium=email in which he revealed his hopes and dreams for the future of Israel and the demise of Palestinians in Gaza. The headline is “My Outline for a Solution in Gaza.” And the subheadline reads “Clear and concise, the steps towards achieving quiet in Gaza.” I was immediately impressed by his candor in aspiring towards quiet, not peace. Peace, which requires an end to fighting, is such a cliche. But quiet, which can be achieved through muzzling, silencing, or killing, is so much better. Think about how much better it sounds. “We will have quiet, we will because we must…” “All we are saying, is give quiet a chance…” “What’s so funny about quiet, love and understanding?” ”No justice, no quiet!”

Feiglin doesn’t mince his words. In fact, he puts his demands in bold, literally and metaphorically. And his seven lofty quiet-achieving goals are:

1.Ultimatum
2.Attack
3.Siege
4.Defense (because why not?)
5.Conquer
6.Elimination
7.Sovereignty




Two things are for certain regarding the rockets.

1. Israel's Iron Dome has been very effective.

2. The rockets are very crude if not extremely ineffective.

So you have to ask yourself is it worth blowing up a school, potentially killing innocent civilians, men, women and children because of such a low potential threat?

Logic dictates to me that only if you wish to eliminate in one form or another the peoples from that region, if not by killing them, then by degrading their society to such a point that you drive them away.

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Could this be the final nail in his "coffin"??? femmocrat Jul 2014 #1
I don't believe it bothers his corporate masters. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #2
I doubt it... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #6
Added for context. zeemike Jul 2014 #22
Thanks awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #24
David Gregory is a slob. How did that pig get that job? AlinPA Jul 2014 #3
They were looking for someone who would enjoy dancing with Karl Rove on the dance floor and for Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #4
He looks like he is love with Rove and his politics. AlinPA Jul 2014 #7
That's because he is. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #9
I never noticed Colin Mochrie in that video before. Fawke Em Jul 2014 #13
he's journalistically worthless. he needs to be replaced. spanone Jul 2014 #5
It's all public relations with them, they don't fundamentally disagree with Gregory even today, Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #10
Yeah and they would probably replace him with Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2014 #20
As the old saying goes tech3149 Jul 2014 #38
Ya know, it's the producers who create the show Evergreen Emerald Jul 2014 #8
I agree, Evergreen Emerald. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #11
As the person who actually has to go on air and discuss the issues, he has plenty to say Fla Dem Jul 2014 #12
I agree, Fla Dem but the producers know what kind of person, they hire in the first place. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #14
He is not innocent... But he may only be the on air talent and not have much of a say Evergreen Emerald Jul 2014 #33
What a tool! Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #15
The Usual Propaganda... Is Starting To Become Ineffective... What Happens Next Will Be Interesting WillyT Jul 2014 #16
I believe the Internet; is what's happening next, and that's why they're fighting it. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #19
The anchors are virtually interchangeable. nilesobek Jul 2014 #17
I believe your post deserves a theme song, nilesobek. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #25
He is going to lose his job..boo hoo.He never learned how to cloak it well to come off as impartial. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #18
I agree, Jefferson, Gregory's major problem was his inability to "cloak" it's like the Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #27
I think so, and he has the added problem of coming off uninformed..this is aside from his right Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #32
When Russert passed away... kentuck Jul 2014 #36
his conclusion was ludicrous bigtree Jul 2014 #21
With Gregory, it's like gravity and other complex issues, pehaps one day Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #28
Ever since Spivak, MTP has been the corp mouthpiece LiberalArkie Jul 2014 #23
Gregory's in a panic now....... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #26
David, Fox News is on the line... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #29
I would be surprised if they didn't hire him, should Gregory actually be fired from NBC. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #34
What a complete dick head. Blue Idaho Jul 2014 #30
I sure hope so. n/t GP6971 Jul 2014 #31
If Hamas isn't shooting rockets from in or near schools... oberliner Jul 2014 #35
I don't know, oberliner, perhaps it's just mowing the lawn or ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #37
Just went through a lot of that guy's writings at the last link. The dude is batshit crazy! freshwest Jul 2014 #41
Yes, yes he is. But he's also Deputy Speaker of the Knesset. stranger81 Jul 2014 #43
Their own Tea Party Taliban, like here. It's catering to religious fanaticism. freshwest Jul 2014 #46
A case in point of how our biased media can make you more ignorant. Babel_17 Jul 2014 #39
To be accurate, the UN official was calling COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #40
That's true and then the UN confirmed that the video does not show rockets being fired Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #44
My point was only that the headline COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #45
A distinction without a difference, if the UN Official couldn't view the video it was De Facto Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #48
This has gone on long enough from Gregory - TBF Jul 2014 #42
Well to be fair, it is not like we should expect the M$M to do anything ethical. Rex Jul 2014 #47
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