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(294,528 posts) Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:22 AM Jul 2014

Breaking -District of Columbia's handgun ban ruled unconstitutional [View all]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/27/district-of-columbia-handgun-ban-ruled-unconstitutional
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A federal judge has ruled that the District of Columbia's ban on carrying handguns outside the home is unconstitutional.

In a 19-page ruling made public on Saturday, US district judge Frederick J Scullin concluded that the second amendment gives people the right to carry a gun outside their home for self-defence.

The lawsuit challenging the city's ban was filed in 2009 by three District of Columbia residents, a New Hampshire resident and the Washington state-based Second Amendment Foundation.

The group's lawyer, Alan Gura, said he was pleased with the decision. The city has the option to appeal the ruling.

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Breaking -District of Columbia's handgun ban ruled unconstitutional [View all] malaise Jul 2014 OP

of course the vampire was pleased samsingh Jul 2014 #1

You've been watching "the strain" haven't you. ;) nt Javaman Jul 2014 #121

i confess yes samsingh Jul 2014 #125

Just another POS on the pile to be reversed Loudly Jul 2014 #2

This should scare the shite out of the politicians malaise Jul 2014 #3

Well, we know that they are not capable of being Skidmore Jul 2014 #4

same with SCOTUS - the most useless of all time samsingh Jul 2014 #6

actually that's true - it balances the field samsingh Jul 2014 #5

Your post might have more credibility if you understood what you were talking about Lurks Often Jul 2014 #8

great. i'll check with the other people that told me something different. thanks for supporting the samsingh Jul 2014 #9

Interjecting facts into a discussion is not supporting the NRA Lurks Often Jul 2014 #11

What if things don't get worse? hack89 Jul 2014 #7

All depends on one's perspective Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #10

We have cut our murder rate in half in the past 20 years hack89 Jul 2014 #12

Of course it's a problem. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #13

What do you suggest as a solution? hack89 Jul 2014 #15

With sensible gun laws like the ones pretty much every other developed country has. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #20

The 2A permits the strict regulation of guns hack89 Jul 2014 #25

Except you don't have an explicit right to own a handgun. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #26

Heller is the law of the land hack89 Jul 2014 #27

I'd put it in the same category... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #33

The right wing says the same about Roe v Wade hack89 Jul 2014 #35

Not really the same logic, no Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #37

The Democratic Party platform says the 2A protects an individual right hack89 Jul 2014 #38

And? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #39

So agreeing with the president and the Democratic party makes me right wing hack89 Jul 2014 #40

I am not a member of any organised political party. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #41

But you really believe many here on DU are right wingers hack89 Jul 2014 #43

No, because partisanship doesn't correlate with "right/left". Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #45

What about someone who is pro-choice, anti-death penalty, pro-LGBT rights, and pro-gun? hack89 Jul 2014 #46

Whatever one's other positions? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #48

But to you the Democratic party's position is right wing. hack89 Jul 2014 #51

No, I haven't. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #54

"...fear tends to be a defining characteristic of right-wing politics." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #53

I'd put it in the same category... VScott Jul 2014 #36

Siting Scalia mikeysnot Jul 2014 #76

Scalia says the 2A allows strict gun control hack89 Jul 2014 #80

well regulated, you have a problem with that... mikeysnot Jul 2014 #88

Actually I don't hack89 Jul 2014 #90

What number? I've been looking for that stat! Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #105

Yes, we've cut the murder rate from JaneyVee Jul 2014 #17

Stricter gun control laws? IronGate Jul 2014 #19

Cities that have enacted stricter gun laws JaneyVee Jul 2014 #68

Uh huh. beevul Jul 2014 #77

How does that map tell a different story? JaneyVee Jul 2014 #81

Continued cuteness, I see. beevul Jul 2014 #82

The statistics don't lie either. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #95

They sure paint a misleading picture. beevul Jul 2014 #103

Actually no - gun rights have been expanded drastically over that time frame hack89 Jul 2014 #21

Yes you have a tolerance for murder where upaloopa Jul 2014 #56

As long as it continues to decline hack89 Jul 2014 #58

I disagree upaloopa Jul 2014 #62

So lets get the ATF budget increased and focus the legal system on violent crime hack89 Jul 2014 #64

Perspective is important Lurks Often Jul 2014 #31

Yes, perspective is important Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #34

Ahh, the "those countries are inferior" argument Lurks Often Jul 2014 #50

Yes, the US murder rate is about the same as Yemen and Albania. cheapdate Jul 2014 #98

Cultural, economic & social pressures Lurks Often Jul 2014 #114

Good. linuxman Jul 2014 #14

Brilliant analysis! LOL! nt Logical Jul 2014 #24

DC may have done more to hirt gun control in this ocuntry than anyone else rdking647 Jul 2014 #16

They had a law prohibiting guns outside homes? That's basically a gun ban LittleBlue Jul 2014 #18

You were subject to arrest even if you were in your front yard IronGate Jul 2014 #23

..."to keep and bear arms." tritsofme Jul 2014 #22

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #28

Nice rant there. IronGate Jul 2014 #29

Actually, the threshold is a bit higher than 2/3rds.... S_B_Jackson Jul 2014 #104

You are correct. IronGate Jul 2014 #116

Problem solved. I can't believe no one came up with that before. badtoworse Jul 2014 #30

Interesting view, considering your handle. joeglow3 Jul 2014 #55

You noticed the irony there too? NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #79

No power for you. Throd Jul 2014 #59

My power comes from my smarts, values, and ethics PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #67

What an erudite post. badtoworse Jul 2014 #69

"My power comes from my smarts, values, and ethics" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #83

Then your power needs to be recharged. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #87

I think you've suffered a power outage. Common Sense Party Jul 2014 #129

Does my gun make me a bad person? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #100

The constitution grants no rights, so changing the constitution would remove no rights. X_Digger Jul 2014 #101

Meanwhile... VScott Jul 2014 #32

Any time gun nuts are made to respect the upaloopa Jul 2014 #57

Except those aren't gun free zones. IronGate Jul 2014 #60

Well that shows there is more work to be done upaloopa Jul 2014 #63

For the record, IronGate Jul 2014 #65

I agree with the open carry thought. upaloopa Jul 2014 #66

My husband open carries when we go to the city and circumstances merit. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #86

What circumstances? When your city is under attack? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #108

There are 100 million gun owners. If staying clear of them all is your goal Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #112

I have no issue with gun owners. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #118

"Now, do you care to answer my question?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #119

I'm not here to criticize your husband. I was just curious. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #122

"Are you referring to his fears or the fear others may have on seeing his gun?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #124

As you point out, I said "I'd rather be aware of whom I need to stay clear of." Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #126

Sounds like "Any time atheists are made to respect the wishes... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #61

Is there such a term as "anti-gun-nuts" ?nt clarice Jul 2014 #70

You can use it if you want. upaloopa Jul 2014 #72

You are right. How about meeting in the middle.... clarice Jul 2014 #74

My problem with that is law abiding people upaloopa Jul 2014 #75

New criminals are minted every day Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #109

Yes, it is a conscious choice to become one. nt clarice Jul 2014 #117

Yes, I've used the term. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #102

This is the sort of thread where I don't know if I should rec or not... joeybee12 Jul 2014 #42

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #44

And now, yours is a post I'm conflicted as to whether I should alert or not... joeybee12 Jul 2014 #47

You are free to alert or not, as you see fit friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #49

Yep...there is always that pesky 2nd amendment thingy. nt clarice Jul 2014 #71

The billionaire republican has been very effective at getting republicans elected. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #85

Yay! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #107

Looks like it was taken care of for you. Got a slam dunk 7-0 hide. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #110

Thanks... joeybee12 Jul 2014 #120

What in the heck are you talking about?? Are you afraid that the madinmaryland Jul 2014 #84

Not worried at all, IronGate Jul 2014 #89

Thanks for the laugh! I'm just glad that someone is actually willing to spend money and take madinmaryland Jul 2014 #91

Who's giving the NRA a swift kick in the ass? IronGate Jul 2014 #92

You do not agree that the NRA and Gun Industrial Complex are a shit-stain on this country???? madinmaryland Jul 2014 #93

No, I don't agree with that sentiment. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #94

This is how the MDA (Mothers Demand Action) protest oneshooter Jul 2014 #127

K&R Mugu Jul 2014 #52

Criminals in DC outraged over court ruling on handguns. nt clarice Jul 2014 #73

Exactly. Criminals don't like it when the good guys are armed. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #99

I remember DC in the 90s Recursion Jul 2014 #78

just what d.c. needs....guns aplenty spanone Jul 2014 #96

It certainly wasn't short of guns before Recursion Jul 2014 #106

Dumb move by DC roamer65 Jul 2014 #97

The city dug in its heels after Heller Recursion Jul 2014 #113

Peruta will be the end of "may issue" hack89 Jul 2014 #115

This is complete and utter crap BainsBane Jul 2014 #111

This is a completely reasonable ruling -- antigunsters foiled again. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #123

Good. Don't ban guns, abortions, soda, smoking, pit bulls, birth control, alcohol, etc The Straight Story Jul 2014 #128