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In reply to the discussion: "Obama has governed as a conservative. So, the question for progressives is, “What do we do now?” [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)I see Dimons and Duncans and Salazars and declarations of the power to kill on command without revue and silly military adventures and "free trade agreements" and Republican rehashed policy proposals and warrant-less wiretaps and lots of deference for "shareholders" and and race to the bottom education deform so in tune with their point of view that even the most dedicated obstructionist have to lean on fears of traps and doubletalk rather than disagreement of any substance and deals with big pharma and blind eyes and wags of the fingers for rich and powerful garbage and repeated efforts at austerity commissions even when the TeaPubliKlan sponsors cut and ran and shitloads and shitloads of accepting traditional right wing frames and worldviews from which he is given a pass on due to the batshit shift of the Republican party over the last several years.
The liberal Congress argument is real but it would be real under a Cheney Administration too but the latter would not be assumed to be happily shifting with the environment but resisting it and that would be true but I see very little evidence of Obama pushing in any direction but ones to support and maintain the establishment.
Calling the devils in the latter day Republican party conservative is perhaps the root of the misunderstanding. One must internalize that these fuckers are reactionaries, they are regressive rather than seeking to maintain, and that they are very much radicals all things that would be fairly incompatible with the status que and so have shifted conservatism to the rough center of our politics with reactionaries and regressives pulling one way and liberals and progressives pulling (to a much lesser extent) the other way because there aren't many radicals out opening new frontiers like there are on the opposite end, seeming pulling something crazier out of their asses every day of the week.
The current opposition strives against the present order and calls for devolution at least to the Gilded Age and in many ways further back than that. The feudal structure seems pretty good to the present crowd, right along with the domination of the church.
We are not served by allowing the language to shackle us into not looking forward and locking us into a battle not between the present and the future but between holding on to what we can of the present and recreating a past we have strived against for centuries.
The Turd Way has led us to nowhere. Their aspired to consensus was ever built on quicksand, no space has been shared and the promised land is an empty waste, the opposition is still there. No Age of Aquarius beckons just a dumbass war between conservatives and regressives. Both ideologies are opposites of mine despite being distinct and the radical regressives are certainly more abhorent but conservatives are still conservatives, protectors of the status quo. The spectrum giving ground to radical regressives doesn't negate that one bit or transform conservatives to liberals and moderates, even if the two party system reenforces such a point a view.
Back when the effective political spectrum ended at conservative, I was moderate with a conservative lean but now I'm a fringe leftist. I don't know where the Communists and left radicals went.