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In reply to the discussion: The IRS Says It Will Finally Enforce the Rules Barring Pastors Endorsing Candidates from the Pulpit [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)96. So what?
You seem to be confused.
First off, there are a lot of "non-profit businesses". All that means is that they don't pay shareholders. The guy who runs Goodwill Industries is extremely wealthy, for example.
Not all "non-profit businesses" are tax exempt. There are a lot of political non-profits, and they pay taxes.
"Non-profit business" is not a phrase which is congruent with "charity".
The tax code of this country provides a tax exemption to some non-profit businesses, so long as they do not participate in politics. If they participate in political activities, they pay taxes just like all political non-profits.
Churches are not tax exempt because of the First Amendment. They are tax exempt because they fall in with other non-political non-profit organizations. They LOSE that status when they participate in politics.
But your understanding is pretty amusing.
There is no difference between going to a theatrical performance, and paying money to do so, and going to a church, and paying to do so. In the first example, the money goes into the pocket of the theater owner who pays expenses and keeps the rest. In the second example, the money goes into the pockets of whomever runs the church, who pays expenses and keeps the rest.
What you are missing in your "not supposed to be" is that charities are not supposed to be endorsing politicians either. If they do, they get taxed. There is nothing special about whether it is a "church", a "fraternity", or any other species of non-profit business. In order to maintain their tax exempt status, they have to stay out of politics.
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The IRS Says It Will Finally Enforce the Rules Barring Pastors Endorsing Candidates from the Pulpit [View all]
riqster
Jul 2014
OP
Right, lol? I would have taken a shower, but there was a vacancy in the position.
closeupready
Jul 2014
#25
the pastor can always lay in on thick when introducing the lay person who will endorse a candidate.
unblock
Jul 2014
#128
I live in the PNW and saw businesses posting signs saying voters would go to hell voting for Gore...
freshwest
Jul 2014
#41
'Twas ever thus. Rules and rule-breakers are always playing their cat-and-mouse games.
riqster
Jul 2014
#31
Because the IRS has almost never enforced this bit of tax law, Repub house or not.
riqster
Jul 2014
#51
And enforcement would likely be found unConstitutional by any American court of any era.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#58
Possibly. Or the court could issue a very narrow ruling about political pulpit speech.
riqster
Jul 2014
#62
The theater is a for profit business. Charities are not. (or not supposed to be) nt
napi21
Jul 2014
#88
Nope. Different parties involved. The exemption is based on an assumption of charitable activities.
riqster
Jul 2014
#84
And a lawsuit to say that this is restricting free speech is already in the wings, I would bet.
djean111
Jul 2014
#54
It's not free. They are receiving compensation for not politicizing sermons.
grahamhgreen
Jul 2014
#60
I once dated a Brit, and she wanted to attend a tent revival. Thought it would be fascinating.
riqster
Jul 2014
#78
Got any good videos of them supporting candidates, etc? It will make the job easier if you do. nt
Zorra
Jul 2014
#95
You have a problem with people investigating churches illegally supporting RW candidates? nt
Zorra
Jul 2014
#99
I'm still curious about why you seem to have such a problem with people investigating RW churches.
Zorra
Jul 2014
#105
I just found out the IRS might actually FINALLY start busting christo-fascist churches for
Zorra
Jul 2014
#113
Friggin A. Really? I thought they mentioned this years back, and I haven't seen it.
Xyzse
Jul 2014
#82
keep in mind that many African-American churches have played an important role on many election days
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2014
#92
Black churches know how to walk the line--it's the wingnut churches that have trouble in that regard
MADem
Jul 2014
#146
Are some pastors going to endorse liberal candidates? Is that why they're now enforcing
valerief
Jul 2014
#98
Yep. This is like having your 100-year old uncle finally admit he's an alcoholic.
riqster
Jul 2014
#123
I'm sorry but I'm not sure what your comment has to do with the OP. Please explain nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jul 2014
#148