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62. If you did not mean that republican neocons were impeaching a Democratic neocon, I apologize. n/t

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How can it be that Bill Clinton was essentially impeached for cheating on his wife.... [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP

This is what happens when neocons are the powers behind both parties. Scuba Jul 2014 #1

I love seeing the correct answer in the first reply. Soylent Brice Jul 2014 #50

I agree. ;-l n/t ReRe Jul 2014 #92

No. You love seeing BULLSHIT in the first reply. Clinton being a neocon is irrelevant! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #116

ohai. Soylent Brice Jul 2014 #153

"Correct answer" implies fact. It is not a fact. It is a fallacy. A fallacy is a statement that lack Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #156

... Soylent Brice Jul 2014 #158

Meaning republicans would not have impeached Clinton if he were a "true liberal"? pampango Jul 2014 #53

That's certainly not my meaning. Since it's yours, how do you justify it? Scuba Jul 2014 #59

If you did not mean that republican neocons were impeaching a Democratic neocon, I apologize. n/t pampango Jul 2014 #62

That's exactly what I meant. The point was he was a Democrat; it didn't matter that he was a neocon. Scuba Jul 2014 #64

If republicans would impeach a Democrat whether he were a neocon or not, then pampango Jul 2014 #67

Pretty certain means Democrats *would* have impeached Bush if the Party were not run by neo-cons. ieoeja Jul 2014 #134

I always thought it was because he lied about lying to his wife or leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #66

No, he was charged with perjury, i.e., lying under oath in his grand jury testimony. Divernan Jul 2014 #85

wasnt he disbarred, too? Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #124

He was temporarily disbarred from the Supreme Court. He was never charged with perjury. ieoeja Jul 2014 #135

But what was he lying about? leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #131

That makes no sense. Look, I'm no fan of the Clintons, but if Bill Clinton is a neocon, and the Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #115

Don't Blame the Republicans! Chasstev365 Jul 2014 #122

Part of it is that a whole bunch of Dems such as Hillary and Kerry voted for the war (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #2

This. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #5

Bush's accomplices could have been gone after too. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #38

Accept that Bill is best buddies with the Bushes and it seems good friends with John McCain. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #117

Not sure what that has to do with my post in any way at all. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #126

Sure it does. He was slow to condemn the illegal invasion of Iraq because his wife Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #143

True, and Mr.Bill Jul 2014 #22

Oh boy, here we go again! George II Jul 2014 #23

I'm dumbfounded that people on 'our side' continue to perpetuate this falsehood ... brett_jv Jul 2014 #54

Did they really think Bush wasn't going to go to war????!!!!11111 bigwillq Jul 2014 #55

Anyone who was conscious laundry_queen Jul 2014 #57

Regardless, why represent it that way when discussing the subject on a liberal board? brett_jv Jul 2014 #70

Fair point. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #72

Doesn't change the fact that laundry_queen Jul 2014 #74

. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #138

I used to think I was a republican... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #96

Ah. laundry_queen Jul 2014 #97

Yep, that is how I came up with the name... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #148

BULLSHIT!!!!!! They voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq...something that Bush wanted and was Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #118

Been asking that for a couple years now. blm Jul 2014 #3

Not Me...It's Easy billhicks76 Jul 2014 #82

To a certain extent Cosmocat Jul 2014 #103

I've always been able to answer this. The American people place double standards on the parties. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #119

LOL - I said that facetiously. Of COURSE I KNOW why and how. ; ) blm Jul 2014 #144

Brilliantly said. Boomerproud Jul 2014 #151

If I remember right, Bill was impeached for the lies he told to a grand jury. FreedRadical Jul 2014 #4

It depends Pharaoh Jul 2014 #36

The words of the Articles of Impeachment ... oldhippie Jul 2014 #46

Yes. Lies about SEX. He lied to a grand jury about SEX. CHEATING ON HIS WIFE. calimary Jul 2014 #49

Super great post!! davekriss Jul 2014 #60

Don't hold back. Tell me what you think. FreedRadical Jul 2014 #123

except that he lied about sex Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #125

good post northoftheborder Jul 2014 #128

Obama's Community Chest whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #6

Do you want an honest answer, or do you just want to vent? brooklynite Jul 2014 #7

If I know he was lying...and you know he was lying...and he knows he was lying... world wide wally Jul 2014 #28

I DON'T know he was lying (I don't over-estimate his intelligence)... brooklynite Jul 2014 #29

He took an oath to uphold the office and to defend the Constitution world wide wally Jul 2014 #31

...and how did his actions in Iraq violate that pledge? brooklynite Jul 2014 #34

Do I really need to explain it to you? world wide wally Jul 2014 #90

Sorry, I don't subscribe to "we all know" as a legal doctrine... brooklynite Jul 2014 #102

You are absolutely right!! Had the majority of Dems in the House/Senate stood firm Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #157

The jury isn't selected from 90% of the rest of the world... Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #105

The difference is that Democrats view impeachment as a serious process, hedgehog Jul 2014 #8

Bingo. savalez Jul 2014 #21

You can also add: AngryDem001 Jul 2014 #24

Also, they never got over Nixon's impeachment based on journalists' uncovering a coverup. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #37

excellent post Cosmocat Jul 2014 #106

Very good points - I think the key is that they really believed that the Democratic Party was hedgehog Jul 2014 #142

They can believe all they want that Daley stole the 1960 election. HubertHeaver Jul 2014 #149

Romney's "47%" leak is paramount to everything SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #150

This^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2014 #51

WINNER! Cosmocat Jul 2014 #104

How dare you not use Clinton's impeachment to trash Democrats!!!1! tridim Jul 2014 #110

Ask the leadership of the democratic party. JVS Jul 2014 #9

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Jul 2014 #61

I think that they investigated him for that but I think the impeachment was based on his lying about jwirr Jul 2014 #10

Too many Democratic Pols were collaborators in Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #11

Not only that, Dems remembered the backlash loyalsister Jul 2014 #56

Lopsided power base. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #12

But our powder is still dry. postulater Jul 2014 #13

"There's something really fucked up about all of this." KansDem Jul 2014 #14

True. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #39

I have never read an elected Republican leader calling for impeachment. former9thward Jul 2014 #15

Are you fricking kiddinng me? Cosmocat Jul 2014 #107

Technically... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #16

Why was Clinton asked under oath if he was cheating on his wife? I mean, that should be Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #40

Well... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #43

It wasn't just Lewinsky loyalsister Jul 2014 #63

I've been making the same point about Clinton and Bush for years. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #17

It was the lying under oath that got him in trouble hack89 Jul 2014 #18

Yep. He shouldn't have denied it. The story would have gone away after a couple of weeks. Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #20

We have a winner. ^ world wide wally Jul 2014 #30

LOL - if you really believe that ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #112

Not saying he should have been impeached hack89 Jul 2014 #113

One thing: he was never, ever accused of lying under oath by any court of law. ieoeja Jul 2014 #136

ya think? Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #19

+1000 C Moon Jul 2014 #25

The DEMS did not want to hold Bush Co. accountable. bigwillq Jul 2014 #26

Yep. "Impeachment is off the table." We're "looking forward..." polichick Jul 2014 #27

Because Democrats are afraid to impeach war criminals, they told us that it would 'look political'. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #32

+ 1000 nt raouldukelives Jul 2014 #88

Big reason Dubya wasn't impeached -- Dick Cheney Shoonra Jul 2014 #33

Wasn't he also the deciding vote in the Senate? GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #77

Conviction would have required 67 votes, not 51. n/t ColesCountyDem Jul 2014 #98

So, in other words... GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #132

Precisely. ColesCountyDem Jul 2014 #145

If Cheney saw a chance JoeyT Jul 2014 #99

Republicans want to impeach onecaliberal Jul 2014 #35

Two reasons: 1) abstract vs. concrete and 2) the corporate media RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #41

Good analysis. maddiemom Jul 2014 #121

What is really fucked up about all this is President Obama's failure to prosecute Bush Enthusiast Jul 2014 #42

I agree. If the right wants to impeach Obama, it should be for that. polichick Jul 2014 #58

Absolute bullshit Cosmocat Jul 2014 #108

You are entitled to your opinion. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #130

Ask Nancy Pelosi. Fuddnik Jul 2014 #44

And the anthrax mail finally was, too. nt valerief Jul 2014 #48

Bush (or Cheney and his cronies, really) managed to create a simulacrum of legality around Aristus Jul 2014 #45

Clinton's cheating didn't make rich people richer. Bush's war did. nt valerief Jul 2014 #47

Your typical con is jealous that Clinton got so much you know what... randys1 Jul 2014 #52

Clinton should not have been impeached, Progressive dog Jul 2014 #65

The MIC makes more money when the republicans are in power. Initech Jul 2014 #68

Clinton was impeached because of hubris SoCalDem Jul 2014 #69

"We have to look forward" Mnpaul Jul 2014 #73

I think we have to let go of this already. Let's move on. We"ve said our arguments CTyankee Jul 2014 #71

I'm pretty sure a call to "impeach" Obama jimlup Jul 2014 #75

I think the Dems were afraid a Bush impeachment would backfire on them, too. GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #76

Yeah and I also think that it would wake-up Obama's base /nt jimlup Jul 2014 #78

The dc dems are the "good cop" in the charade we pay to watch Doctor_J Jul 2014 #79

What is really fucked up about all this is how the right-wing meme is thrust upon us incessantly by indepat Jul 2014 #80

Sex:bad - Saving lives:bad - War:good - Killing:good Kablooie Jul 2014 #81

They thought we wouldn' notice is all I could figure...nt fadedrose Jul 2014 #83

Well, there's two parts to that Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #84

Yeah that is how fucked up everything really is. Rex Jul 2014 #86

IOKIYAR Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #87

Everything's OK ... if you're a Republican !!! blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #89

Of course there is something fucked up about all this. MADem Jul 2014 #91

Are we sure he lied? greymattermom Jul 2014 #93

The only impeachable crime is being a Democrat jmowreader Jul 2014 #94

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #95

I got told by right wingers at the time: Buddha2B Jul 2014 #100

YEP Cosmocat Jul 2014 #109

Bill Clinton got impeached customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #101

Duplicity Is An Ugly Trait Mastered By The Right cantbeserious Jul 2014 #111

AND...the American people will make sure it happens by handing the Senate over to Republicans. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #114

threat if impeachment is part of the right wing playbook now rurallib Jul 2014 #120

because Dems aren't extremists and GOP is. librechik Jul 2014 #127

He was impeached for being a Democratic President CanonRay Jul 2014 #129

The standard was set with Clinton, and impeachment is something one party will "clamor" for hughee99 Jul 2014 #133

stupid treacherous repugs samsingh Jul 2014 #137

Which one makes rich white men richer? efhmc Jul 2014 #139

According to Buddhism, this is the predicted Age of Mappo, or Age of Confusion, when everything is DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #140

This is a great question for Nancy Pelosi... radhika Jul 2014 #141

Bush and Cheney were too smart to agree to deposition under oath. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #146

No, they were simply more brazen. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #155

He was impeached for lying, not enjoying a WH hummer. NM_Birder Jul 2014 #147

IIRC, Pelosi took impeachement off the table; and Obama said he was merrily Jul 2014 #152

Because Republicans like to put things on the table. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #154