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happyslug

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76. Such terms are in SOME Union contracts, but NOT most.

Tue Jul 29, 2014, 09:18 PM

Jul 2014

And every time I have run across such procedure in a Union Contract (and that is mostly with Police or Civil Service) it is also required by Civil Service procedures. The main reason for this is it is easier to blame the Union for insisting on such terms then to admit that most Administration wants such procedures so they do NOT have to make any decision on terminating someone. The people who want the termination will remember it in the next election, but the people who oppose such termination (The police) will remember it for the next 20 years. Most politician do not only think of the next election, but elections after that, thus they see being made to make such decisions as losing no matter what they do, thus they "Agree" to such arbitration requirements so they do NOT have to make any decision on terminating an officer or another Civil Servant.

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Cop Arrests Man, Forced Him to Leave Family Pet on the Side of the Freeway to Die [View all] Garion_55 Jul 2014 OP

WTF is up with cops and animal abuse?...I thought most whathehell Jul 2014 #1

Some think little to nothing of animals. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #4

Left unsaid -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #14

That's right. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #61

Apparently not, and that is tragic. n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #51

It is a good sign of a sociopath Ash_F Jul 2014 #47

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! roguevalley Jul 2014 #56

If that happened to my pet I'd sue. Both the officer involved and the police dept. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #62

I would. this man is dangerous roguevalley Jul 2014 #63

I am sick of it get the red out Jul 2014 #58

Agree.. yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #92

Fired get the red out Jul 2014 #94

Nazi brown shirts don't like compassion or kindness of any kind. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #85

the cop should be fired at the very least rdking647 Jul 2014 #2

I agree. hamsterjill Jul 2014 #22

Agreed! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #33

That seems to be the case lolly Jul 2014 #75

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #87

Yes, my thoughts exactly drynberg Jul 2014 #38

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #86

Unbelievable stupidity. I can't believe that's police procedure. Jim__ Jul 2014 #3

I doubt that very much...I had a female friend who was a cop whathehell Jul 2014 #53

Another casualty of the drug war. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #5

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #6

No, that cops life doesn't need to be ended, IronGate Jul 2014 #9

Related redqueen Jul 2014 #7

14 year old chihuahua. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #88

+1000000000 woo me with science Jul 2014 #99

There is gonna be such a backlash from all this police brutality. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #8

I couldn't agree with you more. IronGate Jul 2014 #11

Kinda sounds like Israel and the Palestinians.... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #16

The sad part drmeow Jul 2014 #65

fuck tha police frylock Jul 2014 #10

Motherfuckers!!!!! geardaddy Jul 2014 #12

I understand. Things went through my head (when I read this story)...that I can't say on this forum. BlueJazz Jul 2014 #72

Me too. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #89

Yep..I suspect we're on the same wavelenth. Maybe we could BOTH have a beer with that cop. BlueJazz Jul 2014 #95

Count me in. geardaddy Jul 2014 #96

From the sounds of all the stories I've been reading about this sort of stuff lately, hughee99 Jul 2014 #13

Close. It seems these interactions always come with charges. Usually some sort Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #15

You're right. There will be charges, but they will be quickly dropped, like in this case. n/t hughee99 Jul 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jul 2014 #20

I remember when this was posted on DU. Brigid Jul 2014 #26

Yes, exactly like this one. hughee99 Jul 2014 #28

Actually, they ARE doing that now, sorta. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #64

so sorry for the needless death catrose Jul 2014 #17

I'd bet money... silverweb Jul 2014 #37

I wouldn't even try to argue that you're wrong catrose Jul 2014 #59

I was victimized like this years ago and was in a cell with several others in the same situation. Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #97

To Protect and Serve...my ass Lochloosa Jul 2014 #19

Start at the top. safeinOhio Jul 2014 #21

Won't happen. delete_bush Jul 2014 #30

No, Union only can protect people who do they jobs. happyslug Jul 2014 #35

I appreciate your reasoned response, delete_bush Jul 2014 #74

Such terms are in SOME Union contracts, but NOT most. happyslug Jul 2014 #76

The mayor made a strong statement Ash_F Jul 2014 #50

Scum joeybee12 Jul 2014 #23

'To Protect And To Serve' byronius Jul 2014 #24

Underpaid? Not in CA delete_bush Jul 2014 #31

Yes, and that's why I'm grateful to live here. byronius Jul 2014 #42

Why were they arrested to begin with? Brigid Jul 2014 #25

If he had no drugs mimi85 Jul 2014 #34

DWB lunasun Jul 2014 #54

Got it - disgusting! nt mimi85 Jul 2014 #82

I would also like an answer to that question. City Lights Jul 2014 #44

According to a different link the passenger had a controlled substance csziggy Jul 2014 #78

Assholes! NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #27

Not only did the cop kill that dog, he endangered motorists. SunSeeker Jul 2014 #29

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #91

+10000 Excellent post. This was CRIMINAL woo me with science Jul 2014 #98

Houston mayor: "Let me give you a public apology ... I don't know what airhead ..." progree Jul 2014 #32

Good for the Mayor!! nt mimi85 Jul 2014 #36

At least the City has the decency to see the problem. n/t DirkGently Jul 2014 #40

I bet this helps clean out that department. byronius Jul 2014 #46

Ugh, this is absolutely disgusting! City Lights Jul 2014 #39

Hope they sue the police officer. sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #41

Oh this makes me mad. Something has to be done about all of this animal abuse on the part totodeinhere Jul 2014 #43

The cop in question is only bringing harm onto himself. Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #45

Fucking pigs! lark Jul 2014 #48

Another asshole cop. blackspade Jul 2014 #49

Fucking heros. Every one of em...(nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #52

Does anyone other than the sickest of fucks decide "I want to be a cop?" villager Jul 2014 #55

Yes but laundry_queen Jul 2014 #68

Thanks, laundry queen. This is what worries me -- "good cops" increasingly the exception villager Jul 2014 #69

This fuckhead needs to face charges. TDale313 Jul 2014 #57

How do we stop this? ecstatic Jul 2014 #60

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Some of these clowns really get their rocks off being genuine assholes. lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #67

And they wonder why they get called pig. 99Forever Jul 2014 #70

I had a fight with a cop once noamnety Jul 2014 #71

This makes me so sad. bigwillq Jul 2014 #73

me too Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #79

Of course! Old Scratch was working that shift! Rex Jul 2014 #77

He Prefers "Legbah" ProfessorGAC Jul 2014 #93

You would never have gone peacefully. Mariana Jul 2014 #100

Yeah I wouldn't be like that man, I would be going kicking and screaming Rex Jul 2014 #101

One word malaise Jul 2014 #80

Lack of a conscience when it comes to animal suffering aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #81

I don't understand... toddwv Jul 2014 #83

Just another human supremacist acting according to his stupid ideology. Vattel Jul 2014 #84

Common sense should be a requirement before hiring someone to wear badge. B Calm Jul 2014 #90