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MADem

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70. This is a website for people who are political junkies, who CARE about winning.

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:49 AM

Jul 2014

I am not in the Happy Loser Club. Eight years with Dumbya aged me twenty years.

If that's your bag, knock yourself out. Don't expect me to subscribe to your philosophies.

You can't make change unless you're in charge. To the victor go the spoils. With party discipline, all things are possible.

Ask LBJ's ghost how the Civil Rights Act came to pass--it wasn't through "pretty please-ing" and asking nicely. It came down to arm twisting, bullying and threats.

But I'm glad he got that done. That was a BIG win, and it was ALL about winning-- even if you can't appreciate it.

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Could you vote for a Democrat who didn't accept evolution? [View all] echochamberlain Jul 2014 OP

I can't imagine JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #1

But we gotta draw the line there: "You must accept evolutionary truth as a... FrodosPet Jul 2014 #49

I'm not talking about the voters JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #58

In practical terms, what exactly does that entail? FrodosPet Jul 2014 #64

Oh I know JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #66

I don't believe in blankets. Generalizations never cover everyone. FrodosPet Jul 2014 #79

Thanks for the clarity JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #81

Thank you for understanding! FrodosPet Jul 2014 #82

do you have an example of a Democrat who doesn't accept evolution ? steve2470 Jul 2014 #2

Mark Pryor. D-Arkansas opiate69 Jul 2014 #73

thanks, just amazing nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #76

The D is for Derp. KamaAina Jul 2014 #95

If he/she was electable and reliably voted the way the leadership told him/her to vote, I would MADem Jul 2014 #3

I guess I'd hold my nose and vote for this hypothetical candidate steve2470 Jul 2014 #5

My gut instinct JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #7

same here steve2470 Jul 2014 #8

I pretty much agree with the people who say "There couldn't be a Dem so dumb..." MADem Jul 2014 #9

yes, for example Wendy Davis' position on guns steve2470 Jul 2014 #10

Jon Tester in Montana had to color outside the lines, too. MADem Jul 2014 #13

yep I agree steve2470 Jul 2014 #16

If the Democrat had be that crazy to get elected in that riding... SidDithers Jul 2014 #38

Fair point, that!!!! nt MADem Jul 2014 #41

Wow, this typifies the corrupt thinking of party loyalists whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #65

No it doesn't. MADem Jul 2014 #67

A majority of what? Creationists? whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #69

This is a website for people who are political junkies, who CARE about winning. MADem Jul 2014 #70

Take off your rose-colored glasses whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #71

I think you're the one with the spectacles. Read Caro. MADem Jul 2014 #72

Democrats are sometimes dumb. But not that dumb. Squinch Jul 2014 #4

Doesn't pass the sniff test GOLGO 13 Jul 2014 #6

I'd look at the context of the comments el_bryanto Jul 2014 #11

Only as a nose pincher in a general election. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #12

No newfie11 Jul 2014 #14

No. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #15

I would look deeper into what they are all about, as this indicates some serious conceptualization RKP5637 Jul 2014 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #18

I'm pretty sure religion -could- co-exist with belief in evolution. HereSince1628 Jul 2014 #54

sorry, posted this in the wrong place HereSince1628 Jul 2014 #60

As a devout Atheist, I disagree. ieoeja Jul 2014 #55

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #91

If that was my choice, yes./nt demwing Jul 2014 #19

Write in or third party Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #20

We can't be one issue voters at times like this - esp. with so many being left behind... NRaleighLiberal Jul 2014 #21

What Democrat is this? Peacetrain Jul 2014 #22

I can't vote for a moron, regardless of party. Codeine Jul 2014 #23

Same here.....I can't stomach stupid. yourout Jul 2014 #24

I'd like the choice to vote for one (or a lot) who don't believe in boogiemen or Sky Cake NightWatcher Jul 2014 #25

A lot would depend upon whether or not the opponent shared his delusion CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #26

No get the red out Jul 2014 #27

A Dem who walks upright, with opposable thumbs, and who speaks? Orsino Jul 2014 #28

As long as they aren't a fundie Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #29

Oh gods no. Iron Man Jul 2014 #30

No ann--- Jul 2014 #31

No..... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #32

I try not to vote for a candidate on a single issue. The issues our candidates should be Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #33

What kind of a debate are you proposing to spark? TBF Jul 2014 #34

Interesting. H2O Man Jul 2014 #35

In fact a sizeable segment of fundies DO believe we Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #44

True. I've met a number of very religious environmentalists. Xithras Jul 2014 #59

Some of these "green fundies" have become a pain Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #86

+1 I figured somebody would echo my sentiments on this thread. nt raouldukelives Jul 2014 #61

Depends on who he or she was running against. dawg Jul 2014 #36

No... SidDithers Jul 2014 #37

The question would be, would their belief affect their policy choices? Coventina Jul 2014 #39

No. Brings into question their education, wisdom, connection to reality on point Jul 2014 #40

I think I may just vote for the Independent in that case. Xyzse Jul 2014 #42

Depends. Is his opponent a Tea Partier who likewise doesn't believe in it? mainer Jul 2014 #43

I could vote for an old earth creationist, but not a young earth creationist betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #45

Love all the no answers jamzrockz Jul 2014 #46

I think we're all conditioned to accept a certain level of stupid. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #68

Or the fiction of national borders. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #78

There's a difference between artificial cultural constructs and fiction Silent3 Jul 2014 #92

Why does it matter? dilby Jul 2014 #98

Need additional info before deciding but doubtful lunasun Jul 2014 #47

I could vote for people with any number of weird personal beliefs LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #48

NO NO NO. because it means they have no logic and lower intelligence IMO! nt Logical Jul 2014 #50

My initial response is HELL NO. BUT - Avalux Jul 2014 #51

Pretty much what Avalux said. Maybe, under some circumstances. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #52

No. n/t ieoeja Jul 2014 #53

NO! I don't vote for stupid. The Dem party must have better standards for candidates. L0oniX Jul 2014 #56

I'm with you. It would depend on the Republican. Xithras Jul 2014 #57

Economically, I have more in common with William Jennings Bryan lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #62

Exactly jamzrockz Jul 2014 #80

The time to fix it is in the primary. jeff47 Jul 2014 #63

Depends on the rest of the issues treestar Jul 2014 #74

No, because of other likely positions they will take along with that. alarimer Jul 2014 #75

"Modern age" is the key. A William Jennings Bryan vote, in that era, to stand up to banks villager Jul 2014 #77

If the Rethug thought the same thing, I'd vote for the Dem, because on many other issues, pnwmom Jul 2014 #83

No. sakabatou Jul 2014 #84

I can't imagine that a candidate like that would make it through the Primaries. Sheepshank Jul 2014 #85

NO...however, in 2000, Al Gore made a weasely comment about how joeybee12 Jul 2014 #87

As long as there were no major policy ramifications that followed from that craziness... Silent3 Jul 2014 #88

No Marrah_G Jul 2014 #89

Is s/he for single payer? rug Jul 2014 #90

NOPE DiverDave Jul 2014 #93

No. n/t zappaman Jul 2014 #94

I'm assuming the repuke doesn't, either KamaAina Jul 2014 #96

Eh, it depends on Aerows Jul 2014 #97