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In reply to the discussion: Did YOU hear RFK, Jr. mentioned in the Public Eye over the last 18 months? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)52. Excuse for what? You denigrating Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
I'm asking people to consider what the hell kind of information they are getting from Corporate Media and from DU.
It's why so many people, obviously, don't know squat. For those interested in learning:
Corporate McPravda owns the airwaves.
And Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information, including their ideas about these two statues. Wonder what people would think were they to learn from the tee vee what pater and fils have really done with their power?
The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making
Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis
Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy as in true democracy places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society locally and globally.
From the late 19th century on, the threats to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.
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The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the public and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.
The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and experts armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape Americas democratic propaganda throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.
CONTINUED...
http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making
Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html
If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.
http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3
It's important for there to be more than a handful of companies providing "news." Democracy depends on it. That obviously is a foreign concept for many.
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Did YOU hear RFK, Jr. mentioned in the Public Eye over the last 18 months? [View all]
Octafish
Jul 2014
OP
Why do you keep repeating that, SidDithers of DU? Do you want me to be a Republican?
Octafish
Jul 2014
#34
"important news about his father's beliefs in regards to the assassination of the President."
zappaman
Jul 2014
#61
Here in Detroit, his dad's POV regarding JFK assassination was reported in the Free Press...
Octafish
Jul 2014
#35
Still upset the Kennedy kids didn't blow the lid of the assassinations last year...
zappaman
Jul 2014
#9
His 'daddy' was Robert F. Kennedy whose opinion on his brother's assassination is of great interest
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#11
Ted Kennedy was a human being who was not infallible. He was eg, totally wrong about Bush Jr's
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#42
How would I know, I wasn't privy to their personal conversations. It's very likely that he did not
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#119
Lol, thanks Octafish. Apparently it worked as I saw a snarky comment yesterday about 'waiting for
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#10
Not sure. I do know RFK, Jr. and his sister said what their good father told them.
Octafish
Jul 2014
#36
Not sure? Interesting. Kennedys are about as large of a dynasty as you will ever see.
NCTraveler
Jul 2014
#44
Since dynasties appear to be 'in' these days, I most definitely 'like to pick and choose' as you put
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#103
Well, we've done appreciation threads, 50 shades threads....is RFK going to be the new thing we all
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#13
We gotta make a "Summer Camp" weekly schedule! If I knew how to do that, I would, but
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#19
My purpose is to gauge DUers' awareness of Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's real views.
Octafish
Jul 2014
#117
Following your tangent, Alvin Toffler predicted this, way back in the 1970s
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#21
a lot of perfectly normal people believe crazy things. Believing that vacines cause autism in
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2014
#20
I've long since stopped being surprised by the anti-science nonsense that gets posted here.
NuclearDem
Jul 2014
#80
No no no.. Not opinion.. Medical research even from the time it was removed
MattBaggins
Jul 2014
#97
Thank you, most of us here on DU are pretty smart. Whenever we see something that looks like a
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#39
You are a wiser person than I am H20 Man, not to engage such wonderful people. I'm afraid I can't
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#41
Horrible that this happened to your nephew. And wonderful of RFK Jr to come to your assistance in
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#118
Yes, it can. It's not the DU we first came to, that's for sure. But it's the internet, and we have
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#107
VERY astute: "I suspect that RFK is working on something important, possibly FRACKING, just a guess"
Hekate
Jul 2014
#128
Those who study the Kennedy assassinations understand these cogent arguments to "Public Eye"
MrMickeysMom
Jul 2014
#105
Lol, that reminds of Wilbur from Charlotte's Web when he tried to argue that
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#131
I did see it. And I thought about DU's Kennedy bashers and wonder how I came to be on
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#133