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52. Strawmen aside (the Germans and even Nazis don't have a monopoly on evil )...

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #50)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:17 AM

Jul 2014

...my issue is the misuse of the Holocaust.

It's an open air prison, a mass enforced Ghetto.

Nothing but sound-byte propaganda. Again, drawing conclusions that aren't comparable.

Are you denying that ignorant people won't categorize Jews and Israel as being one and the same?

Why would you even ask me that?! It is that for which I have a problem, including the Holocaust/Nazi comparisons.

Are you saying there is no such thing as anti-Semitism and/or it can't be stoked or intensified by war or mass murder?

That doesn't even make sense! Anti-Semitism is very real and is being justified and that is a problem. Here are some examples:

This is what all good Jews need to stand up and say. Kudos

"Good Jews?" Really?! You have a problem with that statement?

Oh, those adorable sweet "Chosen people of god." Would god really choose savages? I doubt it.

Think that is about Israelis?

It is actually very simple...we are Israel's "bitch"...That is their motivation for supporting the Jews killing innocent civilians in Gaza. Nothing complex about it.

Really? Nothing "complex" about it?!

Like Billy McKinney said...It's the damn Jews!..sorry, but it's the truth.

At least that comment was hidden, but at least one person didn't think it "hide-worthy."

Israel was given to the Jews as an apology after the Holocaust.

GIVEN to the Jews?!

Oh, are we supposed to be thankful?!

Indeed... nothing to see there.

That was in response to a list of anti-Semitic attacks in Europe.

Is disgusting that a peoples that went through what the Jews went through under Hitler, would turn around and start the same process against another peoples, especially since the Jews have been feeding off the collective guilt of the world for 60-70 years for what they went through under Hitler.

Really? "Feeding off the collective guilt of the Holocaust?"

That's just a SAMPLE of a few posts in the past DAY! Wanna imply again I, as a Jew, don't know what anti-Semitism is?

So yes, there is anti-Semitism, but to imply it is the fault of the Jews (or Israel) is anti-Semitic as well!

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Gaza. I agree it is a massacre and should stop immediately. [View all] Bonobo Jul 2014 OP

I don't get it Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #1

Yup, does it surprise you that some people have complex feelings, Roy? nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #2

Life is full of conflicting feelings. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #3

I don't conflate Judaism with Israels' actions. n/t jaysunb Jul 2014 #4

Thank you. This is a good point. oldandhappy Jul 2014 #8

+1 Egnever Jul 2014 #61

yet when it comes to women you take a different stand JI7 Jul 2014 #5

WTF? No, I really don't. Bonobo Jul 2014 #6

HATE it when that happens, don't you? Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #7

Roy, I responded to what you put in your OP. It is very different. Bonobo Jul 2014 #9

That is very direct JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #54

Bonobo, I respect you. I understand the conflict. And I know you are a person of conscience. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #10

Thanks Sabrina. My conflict really isn't over "supporting" Israel. Bonobo Jul 2014 #12

Israel seems to get compared to the Nazis more than almost anyone else. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #14

I couldn't have said that better. Exactly. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #19

I am so sorry that this happened to you. I did not know that. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #15

Well said. No, Bibi does NOT represent Jews. He doesn't even represent most Israelis I think. Bonobo Jul 2014 #17

Jews need to make it clear that Netanyahu doesn't represent them? oberliner Jul 2014 #87

Who voted for him, Arabs? Who DOES he represent in your opinion. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #88

When I see people taking a slaughter of other human beings and making it about themselves... Scootaloo Jul 2014 #22

Not a "tone" thing. Bonobo Jul 2014 #28

As I've explained, I've been a critic of using "genocide" as well Scootaloo Jul 2014 #32

Yes. Bonobo Jul 2014 #33

Thanks Scootaloo Jul 2014 #35

It's okay, I'm having a hard time as well. Bonobo Jul 2014 #36

Right there with you. DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #42

Your posts are better then home made caramel. Puglover Jul 2014 #86

Scootallo , I think I love you...your literary talent is a rare thing. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #81

FYI, Bonobo... ReRe Jul 2014 #30

Thanks, ReRe. Bonobo Jul 2014 #38

I forgot about the pennies. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #41

I don't even respond to the holocaust / genocide statements. joshcryer Jul 2014 #11

Beautiful, Josh. Bonobo Jul 2014 #13

Yeah joshcryer Jul 2014 #20

That is how I see it. War crimes, crimes against humanity. morningfog Jul 2014 #23

And I can NOT disagree with that. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #25

Each incursion ann--- Jul 2014 #29

The rockets do not "defend them" from Israel. joshcryer Jul 2014 #39

Netanyahoo didn't ann--- Jul 2014 #64

The Palestinian Authority has no power over Hamas. joshcryer Jul 2014 #66

You're all over the place there. Shemp Howard Jul 2014 #34

This is true. joshcryer Jul 2014 #37

Damn Bonobo, I'm an atheist and I'm conflicted too. Throd Jul 2014 #16

Your sig line compares a group to Nazis. morningfog Jul 2014 #18

It's a quote by Hunter Thompson. Bonobo Jul 2014 #21

Got ya. I am not familiar with the quote. morningfog Jul 2014 #24

I don't believe Netanyahu's government is committing genocide, Bonobo, but Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #26

Israel is not fully culpable for the state of Gaza. joshcryer Jul 2014 #40

The Gaza Ghetto is severely aggravated by Israel's blockade. Any peoples trapped into a dense Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #44

I agree. joshcryer Jul 2014 #46

I believe they were about to, Hamas was actively working to stop rocket attacks; which had decreased Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #48

They started shooting first. joshcryer Jul 2014 #51

"IDF source: Hamas working to stop Gaza rockets" Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #55

I don't buy it. joshcryer Jul 2014 #57

Well apparently Brig.-Gen. Micky Edelstein, commander of the army�s Gaza Division did. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #59

Good post Uncle Joe malaise Jul 2014 #70

Thanks, malaise. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #71

The Holocaust comments are false, offensive and disrespectful. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #45

I never said Netanyahu's government has committed a Holocaust but any nation is capable of doing so, Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #47

No, you didn't, but implied it was coming. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #49

I implied it's possible and it is, the Germans and even Nazis don't have a monopoly on evil or Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #50

Strawmen aside (the Germans and even Nazis don't have a monopoly on evil )... Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #52

Do you believe the man in the pic is feeding off the collective guilt of the Holocaust? Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #58

Yes. Because it is what is expected of "good Jews" when Israel does anything. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #60

I De-Facto acknowledged anti-semitism existed in my first post that you responded to. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #63

Some points Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #65

Some points for you, but who is the victim? Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #68

+1000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #53

Oh you! Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #56

I'm fine with that JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #73

Many of us live in a country that makes us feel that way everyday. I am not a Jew but your jwirr Jul 2014 #27

The ann--- Jul 2014 #31

I get it madokie Jul 2014 #43

Excellent post, Bonobo leftynyc Jul 2014 #62

Good post. I know what you mean. And it's heartbreaking for all people who want peace. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #67

I understand your feelings but do you know about that other malaise Jul 2014 #69

I know a lot about it. Bonobo Jul 2014 #72

There's a thread out there that directly compares Israel with Nazi Germany. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #74

Great question. Bonobo Jul 2014 #75

Because there is a seething antisemitism hiding just below the surface for many, many folks TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #78

Nazi comparions are uncool and not accurate steve2470 Jul 2014 #76

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2014 #77

Dead is dead. 'Quibbling' about whether or not it qualifies as another Holocaust is ridiculous. randome Jul 2014 #79

see this 840high Jul 2014 #80

I guess it would be less of a massacre Boom Sound 416 Jul 2014 #82

I find it interesting nobody is all worked up about the much more deadly Calista241 Jul 2014 #83

It's easier to argue where and when everyone agrees the other is wrong Boom Sound 416 Jul 2014 #84

I agree with all but one of your points. jimlup Jul 2014 #85